Toronto Sports Media Discussion Thread - v7 (2022 Edition)

[Nineteen67]

That Steve Kouleous (sp?) On the NHL Network on Sirious was seriously condescending to Leaf Nation in his analysis of the Knies hit, saying Leaf Nation has revealed themselves as being as knowledgeable about hockey as the Florida fanbase.
And typical to all hockey media, convrniently tailoring the facts of the incident and then assigning positions to Leaf Nation as if we have a spokesperson who expresses our ond and only opinion on thd matter.

A lot of Leafs fans still don’t understand the hit. Many actually think he jumped and clearly it wasn’t despite still images of his feet on the ice creating a snow shower at the point of impact.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

I know Ray has a lot on his plate, but they need to find a way to have him as a weekly guest

Overdrive was at its best when he made daily appearances

 

[Enga Olly]

It's really close i think the skates leave the ice immediately after the impact, my main issue is i belueve the initial contact eas to the head, i dont have the rule book commited to memory but those head contact rules regardless of how they are written are there for the players safety. Head shots are an unsafe aspect and should be virtually eliminated from the game. Not some cleverly worded rule, opening the door to allow certain types of headshots provided they are delivered like Whitecloud delivered his. Knies head isn't doing any better today because Whitecloud delivered this perfect "by the rules" head shot.

 

[wingman75]

It's really close i think the skates leave the ice immediately after the impact, my main issue is i belueve the initial contact eas to the head, i dont have the rule book commited to memory but those head contact rules regardless of how they are written are there for the players safety. Head shots are an unsafe aspect and should be virtually eliminated from the game. Not some cleverly worded rule, opening the door to allow certain types of headshots provided they are delivered like Whitecloud delivered his. Knies head isn't doing any better today because Whitecloud delivered this perfect "by the rules" head shot.

This is the issue I have with it. The hit itself fell within the rules, however, contact to head was made (not principle). Not sure why that matters? It should still be a penalty. Lots of penalties are as a result of an unintented play (trips, high sticks, etc.). It's not 5 min worthy but I would like to see a double-minor for hits that result in clear contact to the head. So then everyone can be happy right? The hit in itself is legal, the contact to the head is not. Sometimes the rules are not right and need to be ajusted... I mean, this is based on the NHLs stance of creating a safe playing area for the players. Otherwise, their words are just that. If they really cared, they'd make adjustments.

TL;DR - Hit clean by the rules, rules need to be adjusted.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Leafs media is often cast as homers but there's not a chance in hell any of our beat reporters, columnists, or analysts would tweet something like this out if the names were reversed. Just shameless from Matheson.

 

[rojac]

Leafs media is often cast as homers but there's not a chance in hell any of our beat reporters, columnists, or analysts would tweet something like this out if the names were reversed. Just shameless from Matheson.

Why do so many Leafs flans feel they need the media to kiss the ass of the team? Why do people even are what people in the meda say? Do you actually respect those media members so much that their opinions are important?

 

[Evilhomer]

Why do so many Leafs flans feel they need the media to kiss the ass of the team? Why do people even are what people in the meda say? Do you actually respect those media members so much that their opinions are important?

I have more respect for the opinions of many people on this forum than I do for literally anyone in the media.

 

[Apex Predator]

Leafs media is often cast as homers but there's not a chance in hell any of our beat reporters, columnists, or analysts would tweet something like this out if the names were reversed. Just shameless from Matheson.

Why? It’s not like he is saying nuggent Hopkins. He’s not wrong about that.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Why? It’s not like he is saying nuggent Hopkins. He’s not wrong about that.

Because the tweet had nothing to do with the Oilers lol. He's not wrong but it just looks pathetic and weird for a reporter to act like that.

Can you imagine Masters or CJ quote tweeting an unrelated comment from a small account to pump up the Leafs? Of course not. The only one I could see doing that is Simmonds, who is justifiably reviled.

 

[Nineteen67]

Funny and sad at the same time

 

[stats1]

Luke Fox is getting crushed on X for lying lol our reporters are scum. Imagine lying about something just to farm for engagement. “And chants of we want Woll start” Savage! People replied back and said dude I’m at the game and nobody is chanting that. Our reporters are such trash, they can’t just report on the game they gotta try and lie to rile up the fan base to get engagement for clicks. Shameless

 

[SprDaVE]

Funny and sad at the same time

I've never seen a fanbase look back at all the bad and negativity from years and years ago, and rehash them as much as Toronto. This is August off-season talk... Talk about what is happening now.

 

[Nineteen67]

I've never seen a fanbase look back at all the bad and negativity from years and years ago, and rehash them as much as Toronto. This is August off-season talk... Talk about what is happening now.

Well I think Hayes said why he did it, but the Leafs play once per week, the Jays are in the look busy part of the off-season, and the cfl is a waste of time, so there’s not much to talk about with the Toronto teams.

Having said that, it’s earned. This is what you expect when you’re a fan of the absolute worst sport franchise in the US and Canada over the past 55 years.

 

[wingman75]

Luke Fox is getting crushed on X for lying lol our reporters are scum. Imagine lying about something just to farm for engagement. “And chants of we want Woll start” Savage! People replied back and said dude I’m at the game and nobody is chanting that. Our reporters are such trash, they can’t just report on the game they gotta try and lie to rile up the fan base to get engagement for clicks. Shameless

Ah, most of the beat reporters are pretty good. LF though, is a gutless scumbag. He was making up shit last year too, or at least shamlessly creating a false narrative around certain players. Ever since he was called out for that, he has been wiped from my world. I have not read a thing from him since, and never will. People need to flush this turd from their feeds.

It's one thing to not know anything, its another to be making shit up. How this guy even has a paid job in this field is beyond me.

 

[Lightsol]

Funny and sad at the same time

Hayes shows his lack of knowledge of the Leafs' trade history, NO WAY the Kessel or Kadri deals should be above Russ Courtnall for John Kordic... Not to mention the massive ton of NOTHING they got for two of the greatest players to ever play for Toronto, Darryl Sittler and Lanny McDonald...

 

[francis246]

Hayes shows his lack of knowledge of the Leafs' trade history, NO WAY the Kessel or Kadri deals should be above Russ Courtnall for John Kordic... Not to mention the massive ton of NOTHING they got for two of the greatest players to ever play for Toronto, Darryl Sittler and Lanny McDonald...

Kessel trade is a top 3 worst trade. It set the organization back a real long time. And our team was bad. Courtnall for Kordic might be #1 though.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

A lot of whining from other Canadian Teams reporters are about the state of officiating. When the Leaf fans point out how atrocious the officiating is we are 'whiners'.

 

[Evilhomer]

A lot of whining from other Canadian Teams reporters are about the state of officiating. When the Leaf fans point out how atrocious the officiating is we are 'whiners'.

Fans of every single team in every single sport whine about officiating. Not a single fan of any team in any sport anywhere in the world has ever said "God, these referees are awesome".

 

[Nineteen67]

Hayes shows his lack of knowledge of the Leafs' trade history, NO WAY the Kessel or Kadri deals should be above Russ Courtnall for John Kordic... Not to mention the massive ton of NOTHING they got for two of the greatest players to ever play for Toronto, Darryl Sittler and Lanny McDonald...

He mentioned those trades in his rankings

 

[GoonieFace]

Fans of every single team in every single sport whine about officiating. Not a single fan of any team in any sport anywhere in the world has ever said "God, these referees are awesome".

But people on here take it to another level. It’s almost as the Leafs have never committed a penalty in the history of their franchise. Every player on another team is a diver…it’s actually comical

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Kessel trade is a top 3 worst trade. It set the organization back a real long time. And our team was bad. Courtnall for Kordic might be #1 though.

Kessel trade quite literally set this team back 5 years. Just a brutal trade to accelerate what was barely a rebuild at the time. You could argue there are worse historically but in my lifetime that’s the worst one, even more than Rask for Raycroft.

 

[barilko05]

Well I think Hayes said why he did it, but the Leafs play once per week, the Jays are in the look busy part of the off-season, and the cfl is a waste of time, so there’s not much to talk about with the Toronto teams.

Having said that, it’s earned. This is what you expect when you’re a fan of the absolute worst sport franchise in the US and Canada over the past 55 years.

Cleveland Browns and LA Clippers say...hold my beer.

 

[MK78]

Kessel trade quite literally set this team back 5 years. Just a brutal trade to accelerate what was barely a rebuild at the time. You could argue there are worse historically but in my lifetime that’s the worst one, even more than Rask for Raycroft.

Well that was Burke not wanting to attempt at some kind of rebuild or retool for a couple years.

 

[Evilhomer]

But people on here take it to another level. It’s almost as the Leafs have never committed a penalty in the history of their franchise. Every player on another team is a diver…it’s actually comical

It is definitely a bit much. The league and the refs are not out to get the Leafs. This is their livelihood. The way they feed their families. They are not risking their jobs by being biased.

 

[GoonieFace]

It is definitely a bit much. The league and the refs are not out to get the Leafs. This is their livelihood. The way they feed their families. They are not risking their jobs by being biased.

There are a few that are suspect, but for the most part, the NHL refs are consistently bad across the league