Toronto Sports Media Discussion Thread - v7 (2022 Edition)

[TheTotalPackage]

Watched the first period of the Leafs/Kings the other night. Cassie Campbell was doing the Colour Commentary, did she leave CBC?

She left the CBC (after 20 years) to become a special advisor for the PWHL.

Not sure if or how that affects her ESPN duties.

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

Watched the first period of the Leafs/Kings the other night. Cassie Campbell was doing the Colour Commentary, did she leave CBC?

CBC doesn't have the rights to broadcast hockey. She splits time with Rogers (SN HNIC) and ESPN.

 

[Warden of the North]

Siegel is the definition of "Can't see the forest for the trees".

He and Mirtle are arguing that Nylander should be Leafs All-Star, which is a fine opinion, except they completely leave out the small fact that Auston is literally the league's goal leader. Of course the league is going take that player. There's no analysis needed here champ.

I don't mind Siegel. I often enjoy his contrarian opinions, but holy cow does he overthink things at times.

 

[thewave]

Siegel is the definition of "Can't see the forest for the trees".

He and Mirtle are arguing that Nylander should be Leafs All-Star, which is a fine opinion, except they completely leave out the small fact that Auston is literally the league's goal leader. Of course the league is going take that player. There's no analysis needed here champ.

I don't mind Siegel. I often enjoy his contrarian opinions, but holy cow does he overthink things at times.

Gotta take the leading scorer. No questions or excuses outside AM lets him go in his place.

 

[Buds17]

Siegel is the definition of "Can't see the forest for the trees".

He and Mirtle are arguing that Nylander should be Leafs All-Star, which is a fine opinion, except they completely leave out the small fact that Auston is literally the league's goal leader. Of course the league is going take that player. There's no analysis needed here champ.

I don't mind Siegel. I often enjoy his contrarian opinions, but holy cow does he overthink things at times.

I can agree with Siegel about Nylander because I'm big on point totals most of all. I'm also not surprised that Matthews received the nod for the reason you've stated. Ultimately, I expect Nylander to make the All-Star team as well and in part because the game will be played in Toronto (which is also the reason I might pay any attention to it at all).

 

[Nineteen67]

Siegel doesn’t fully understand what the all-star weekend is about. He’s not the sharpest guy in media.

 

[pcruz]

Siegel doesn’t fully understand what the all-star weekend is about. He’s not the sharpest guy in media.

What is the weekend about?

Does the NHL know?

Force feeding a rep from all 32 teams says they aren't sure what they want to promote.

 

[Nineteen67]

What is the weekend about?

Does the NHL know?

Force feeding a rep from all 32 teams says they aren't sure what they want to promote.

It’s pretty clear to me why they include every owner.

 

[Warden of the North]

It’s pretty clear to me why they include every owner.

Ding ding ding

 

[keonsbitterness]

What is the weekend about?

Entertaining the league's sponsors. It's a giant schmooze-fest.

 

[Apex Predator]

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up over an all star game. I haven’t watched one in about 10 years. They are aiming for kids.

 

[wingman75]

Entertaining the league's sponsors. It's a giant schmooze-fest.

Exactly. It never started out as that obviously, but under Bettman it transitioned to this.

I have no problem with that personally. I will probably watch, because I have nothing else going on.

I do think some (media) make it a bigger thing than it really is as far as who goes and who does not.

 

[tmlms13]

What is the weekend about?

Does the NHL know?

Force feeding a rep from all 32 teams says they aren't sure what they want to promote.

The weekend should be about the fans and getting to see the best players the nhl has come together for an exhibition game.

The NHL wants it to be about the owners and making sure they all have one of their employees represented so they can sell jerseys and claim their team has an all star.

 

[ACC1224]

The weekend should be about the fans and getting to see the best players the nhl has come together for an exhibition game.

The NHL wants it to be about the owners and making sure they all have one of their employees represented so they can sell jerseys and claim their team has an all star.

The fans don't want it.

 

[pcruz]

The fans don't want it.

The fans (especially young ones) absolutely want a true all star experience:

A small window to showcase all of the very best the sport offers -

Best and fastest skaters
Best stickhandlers and tricks players showing off their slick moves
Best shooters showcasing how hard and how accurate their shots are
Best goalies showing their best reflex and over-the-top glove saves


What the fans don't want is Leo Komarov in the f***ing All Star game.
They don't want John Scott in that game (I know the irony of him having been voted in by the fans, but that was done almost entirely in protest of the terrible game itself)

The fans don't give a damn about the feelings of some guy in Carolina or Arizona, nor do they give a damn about lining the pockets of the sponsors.


The league doesn't care about the fan experience or the integrity of the All Star game.

The league wants to make money.

And they will do whatever it takes to make the most money - except include their biggest markets in any form of regularity.

That's the problem with the All Star game.

I remember vividly when Owen Nolan called his shot on Hasek.
I remember multiple players going 4/4.
I remember Al McInnis hitting 100.
I remember Mike Gartner in the fastest skater competition and Niedermayer just cruising...

I remember Ovechkin with the costume or the double sticks.
I remember Gaudreau being skated like a toddler.

What I remember fondly are the things the NHL doesn't care about.
What the NHL really cares about, I have exactly 0 recollection.


That's the problem with the All Star game right there.

 

[ACC1224]

The fans (especially young ones) absolutely want a true all star experience:

A small window to showcase all of the very best the sport offers -

Best and fastest skaters
Best stickhandlers and tricks players showing off their slick moves
Best shooters showcasing how hard and how accurate their shots are
Best goalies showing their best reflex and over-the-top glove saves


What the fans don't want is Leo Komarov in the f***ing All Star game.
They don't want John Scott in that game (I know the irony of him having been voted in by the fans, but that was done almost entirely in protest of the terrible game itself)

The fans don't give a damn about the feelings of some guy in Carolina or Arizona, nor do they give a damn about lining the pockets of the sponsors.


The league doesn't care about the fan experience or the integrity of the All Star game.

The league wants to make money.

And they will do whatever it takes to make the most money - except include their biggest markets in any form of regularity.

That's the problem with the All Star game.

I remember vividly when Owen Nolan called his shot on Hasek.
I remember multiple players going 4/4.
I remember Al McInnis hitting 100.
I remember Mike Gartner in the fastest skater competition and Niedermayer just cruising...

I remember Ovechkin with the costume or the double sticks.
I remember Gaudreau being skated like a toddler.

What I remember fondly are the things the NHL doesn't care about.
What the NHL really cares about, I have exactly 0 recollection.


That's the problem with the All Star game right there.

The experience really wouldn’t be much different if they just included only star players. Players just half ass it around the rink.

I attended in 99, I don’t know anyone who took the tickets this time.

 

[Nineteen67]

The fans (especially young ones) absolutely want a true all star experience:

A small window to showcase all of the very best the sport offers -

Best and fastest skaters
Best stickhandlers and tricks players showing off their slick moves
Best shooters showcasing how hard and how accurate their shots are
Best goalies showing their best reflex and over-the-top glove saves


What the fans don't want is Leo Komarov in the f***ing All Star game.
They don't want John Scott in that game (I know the irony of him having been voted in by the fans, but that was done almost entirely in protest of the terrible game itself)

The fans don't give a damn about the feelings of some guy in Carolina or Arizona, nor do they give a damn about lining the pockets of the sponsors.


The league doesn't care about the fan experience or the integrity of the All Star game.

The league wants to make money.

And they will do whatever it takes to make the most money - except include their biggest markets in any form of regularity.

That's the problem with the All Star game.

I remember vividly when Owen Nolan called his shot on Hasek.
I remember multiple players going 4/4.
I remember Al McInnis hitting 100.
I remember Mike Gartner in the fastest skater competition and Niedermayer just cruising...

I remember Ovechkin with the costume or the double sticks.
I remember Gaudreau being skated like a toddler.

What I remember fondly are the things the NHL doesn't care about.
What the NHL really cares about, I have exactly 0 recollection.


That's the problem with the All Star game right there.

Carolina fans care about Carolina and the league cares about all their partners.

My guess, kids are more than fine watching any NHL player, but I’m not sure many of them actually attend the game. Maybe they could open up a few thousand tickets for school kids.

An FYI, the game(s) is secondary to everyone, including Paul Coffey, who had a front row seat watching Nolan call his shot.

 

[garce]

It’s killing Noodles to talk frankly about the Sens right now on Overdrive, won’t criticize the young core, even mumbles when it comes to Korpisalo. lol gotta love it, suggests the Sens can tun it around the way Oilers have.
No McDavid or Draisatl in Ottawa no matter how much they hype them. Methot on now it’s getting rich….

 

[rielledup]

It's wild that Hayes and Odog think that people who aren't sold on Jones are just being negative. Because it's completely logical to think that a 33 year old whos been very mediocre the last few seasons all of a sudden turned back the clock and is a legit good starting goalie on the NHL.

 

[AcerComputer]

It's wild that Hayes and Odog think that people who aren't sold on Jones are just being negative. Because it's completely logical to think that a 33 year old whos been very mediocre the last few seasons all of a sudden turned back the clock and is a legit good starting goalie on the NHL.

It worked for Bobrovsky in the playoffs. The Leafs are also playing good defensive hockey, in when Samonov was in net, the difference is that Sammy cannot stop the puck.

 

[kevsh]

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up over an all star game. I haven’t watched one in about 10 years. They are aiming for kids.

Should ask the NHL this as they're the ones who every single year try to come up with a new way to make it better, more competitive, less of a cringe-fest. And every idea fails. Rinse and repeat. It's gotten so desperate now they're looking to bring back past failed ideas.

One example: Let's do a draft. Don't like the draft, lose it. Let's try the draft again?

 

[Buds17]

It's wild that Hayes and Odog think that people who aren't sold on Jones are just being negative. Because it's completely logical to think that a 33 year old whos been very mediocre the last few seasons all of a sudden turned back the clock and is a legit good starting goalie on the NHL.

I think a certain amount of confidence in Jones is reasonable because he did have 48 GP for Seattle last season (and so many of the other stats in a team sport also depend on the team in front of the goalie). I wouldn't outright name him starter ahead of Woll though at this point, sure.

 

[ColtsNLeafs]

Big fan Kara Wagland on Overdrive. She is extremely knowledgeable and compliments Hayes and ODog great

 

[tmlms13]

Guessing TSN needs to find a replacement for Dave Poulin on the Panel.....

Hayes? Frankie? As long as it isn't CoCo

I pray TSN doesn't replace Poulin with Carlo on the Leafs panels. My ears hurt listening to Carlo......He. takes forever to get to his point and he struggles to piece sentences together lol. My vote would be Frank Corrado

I think Carlo's role should not expand beyond what it currently is. I like him, but he comes off as an idiot way too often, sorry Carlo.

Franky would be my pick as well. I do wonder if they look for a new hire, someone who has management experience in the league and is now (obviously) retired. Burkie?

Sigh...... Coco makes an appearance on the Panel was almost as brutal as his career.

 

[wingman75]

Sigh...... Coco makes an appearance on the Panel was almost as brutal as his career.

That might have been his best performance to be honest. His comments on the morning show are not good very often. Thought he was fine last night. That is a very controlled environment, other than Jeff chasing James trying to get the Quiz belt lol