Proposal: Toronto - Columbus

[Syed Ammad rizvi]

No interest in Laine. Probably a locker room cancer, defensively ineffective. We would rather keep marner who is better defensively and has a higher skill set. In order to pry marner from Toronto you're looking at Werenski plus Laine imo.

 

[TML1967]

Toronto is contending and want to go all the way. They are up against the cap and have loads of cash invested in a few players. They could also need some grit for playoffs. Columbus need playmakers. They have tried to get a C for years and it isnt any closer. Marner is a great playmaker but he is overpaid by 2M. Would this make sense:

Toronto get:

Patrick Laine 7,5M RFA 2022
Max Domi 5,3M UFA 2022

Columbus get:

Mitchell Marner 10,9M UFA 2025
David Kampf 1.5M UFA 2023

Toronto would look tougher for playoffs:

Bunting - Matthews - Kerfoot
Laine - Tavares - Nylander
Kase - Domi - Mikheyev
Ritchie - Spezza - Simmonds

My biggest issue with the premise is Laine isnt signed long term.
He is an RFA this summer, and if you want to lock him in for another few years (assuming he works well down the stretch, and gets back to the Laine of 17-18, and not 20-21) are you going to be getting him for less than 9m+?

If you are only saving 1-2m if he works out, thats a large amount of risk.
Leafs wont be able to sign Domi to an extension, so he is a pure rental.

So Leafs give up the best player, give up two cost certain assets for none, with the best piece the Leafs get back being someone they hope isnt playing to their potential, and one of the im guaranteed to be a rental.

I would need a big + if I was the Leafs, preferably someone cost controlled who can fit. Texier? Maybe Chinakov if you think he is about to take a big step? Ceulmans if you think he is leaving College soon and can step in ahead of Liljgren and Holl (which doesnt help this year)

 

[Aashir Mallik]

If Columbus is out by deadline, I’d rather trade for domi during the playoffs if team wants to go that route.

 

[ACC1224]

Domi is an easy pass.
Seems every team he goes to they(the fans at least) look to move him out.

 

[ole ole]

Toronto is contending and want to go all the way. They are up against the cap and have loads of cash invested in a few players. They could also need some grit for playoffs. Columbus need playmakers. They have tried to get a C for years and it isnt any closer. Marner is a great playmaker but he is overpaid by 2M. Would this make sense:

Toronto get:

Patrick Laine 7,5M RFA 2022
Max Domi 5,3M UFA 2022

Columbus get:

Mitchell Marner 10,9M UFA 2025
David Kampf 1.5M UFA 2023

Toronto would look tougher for playoffs:

Bunting - Matthews - Kerfoot
Laine - Tavares - Nylander
Kase - Domi - Mikheyev
Ritchie - Spezza - Simmonds

Nobody want Marner at 10.9. Leafs would need to retain and if winning the Cup is what teams are shooting for Than Marner isn't the player you want leading you in the Playoffs.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Nobody want Marner at 10.9. Leafs would need to retain and if winning the Cup is what teams are shooting for Than Marner isn't the player you want leading you in the Playoffs.

Leafs are playing very well this year, and neither Laine or domi bring anything the leafs need. We are also fine keeping Marner as well.

 

[Dr Quincy]

TOR would be dumb to do this.

 

[shortfuze]

No interest in Laine. Probably a locker room cancer, defensively ineffective. We would rather keep marner who is better defensively and has a higher skill set. In order to pry marner from Toronto you're looking at Werenski plus Laine imo.

Why is he “probably a locker room cancer”?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

any Leaf/CBJ deal including Laine starts with Matthews in return

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[darrylsittler27]

Toronto need a defenseman not another winger. We have plenty of toughness and scoring.

 

[YP44]

or Toronto could deal Marner for Chychrun and then sign Kane to a 1 year $1m deal.
Seems just as likely as the OP

 

[Joe n]

Horrible value? Domi is in the proposal for the playoffs. Toronto is soft as coconut-milk as is. He brings some grit. Marner is overpaid for 2M+ and Domi is the throw-in with Laine as the centerpiece. I`ts getting frustrating how in any trade-proposal every team overvalue their overpaid players. We should actually get rid of the whole proposals from this forum. If you dont see how laine could be of value as the 2nd sniper on the 2nd line and Domi to give some grit/toughness to the team, you are blind.
It`s not like Marner has been some super-human in the playoffs. If you like to have soft, small overpaid wingers - Marners your man. He even produces points in the regular season with matthews, so you can pump his tires.

2nd line? You mean Nylander who is outscoring Domi by a lot. Their 2nd line is doing just fine

 

[Byrral]

No interest in Laine. Probably a locker room cancer, defensively ineffective. We would rather keep marner who is better defensively and has a higher skill set. In order to pry marner from Toronto you're looking at Werenski plus Laine imo.

You may not like the original offer or Laine's game in general (I don't either) but you are labeling him a cancer with no proof or past issues.

I wouldn't trade Werenski alone for Marner.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

You may not like the original offer or Laine's game in general (I don't either) but you are labeling him a cancer with no proof or past issues.

I wouldn't trade Werenski alone for Marner.

Don't blame you, I also wouldn't do the trade on Toronto end either. Adding Laine to werenski though is just a silly overpay.

 

[93gilmour93]

any Leaf/CBJ deal including Laine starts with Matthews in return

 

[666]

any Leaf/CBJ deal including Laine starts with Matthews in return

I know that you're kidding or trolling but I looked it up and Laine has played just one more game than Matthews.

	GP	G	A	P
Matthews	364	221	166	387
Laine	365	154	129	283

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

It's interesting that some people used to debate who was better.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I'm surprised it's that close.

 

[TorontoTrades]

No thanks. Marner doesn't stop trying when things don't go his way and not to mention his game fits with Matthews. Matthews and Laine together doesn't make much sense they both want to shoot.

 

[ole ole]

Leafs are playing very well this year, and neither Laine or domi bring anything the leafs need. We are also fine keeping Marner as well.

Ya fine in keeping him if you don't want to succeed in the playoffs.

 

[Cowumbus]

Marner already bitched about Cbus as a city. Don’t want him.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Marner already bitched about Cbus as a city. Don’t want him.

Whats with people hating on Cbus as a city? I've never been there.

 

[Rude Dog]

I’ll keep marner

 

[Cowumbus]

Whats with people hating on Cbus as a city? I've never been there.

Not sure. I like it. Cost of living is low, traffic isn’t bad, plenty to do around the city too.

 

[majormajor]

Marner already bitched about Cbus as a city. Don’t want him.

That's a little too defensive.

When the bubble playoffs were debated being placed in various destination cities like Vegas or Toronto, Columbus was floated and it wasn't a fair comparison. Everyone ought to understand that. It's a very nice city, just not a vacation spot.

 

[Cowumbus]

That's a little too defensive.

When the bubble playoffs were debated being placed in various destination cities like Vegas or Toronto, Columbus was floated and it wasn't a fair comparison. Everyone ought to understand that. It's a very nice city, just not a vacation spot.

You’re reading too much into it. He can say whatever he wants, and feel however he wants. Personally I just think he comes across as a whiner.

I just don’t want him regardless, for the package above.