Proposal: Toronto - Chicago

[Big Muddy]

Toronto adds Kulemin and a Cody Franson sweetener and it’s a deal

What no Bracco?

 

[Mersss]

Neither holl or kerfoot are dumps and each expire this year. No contender could take Murphy without sending cap back.

Come on bow both these guys are barely NHL level. Kerfoot is a decent 4th liner and Holl isn't a NHL calibre dman at all.

If any of those guys had balue they'd be gone already

 

[Big Muddy]

I'm fine with giving a first for Murphy but no way I include Robertson for domi.

Ya, not surprising. LOL.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I would simplify this as Holl + 1st, or something along those lines. Flip Kerfoot for a 2nd or 3rd to a team that needs help and free up a roster spot for Matty Knies.

 

[Leaf Fans]

It was a joke, and spell check

I wondered what that whoosh sound over my head was.

 

[TS Quint]

Come on bow both these guys are barely NHL level. Kerfoot is a decent 4th liner and Holl isn't a NHL calibre dman at all. The spare parts after the big

If any of those guys had balue they'd be gone already

What does that say about the 4-5 defensemen that play less than Holl on the Leafs? And the defense is carrying the team. The spare parts after the big 5 contracts just aren’t up to creating offense.

Pretty funny OP is trying to unload Holl actually. Just a complete lack of awareness of the Leafs.

I don’t know the value of Murphy is he worth $4.4m? If people are thinking he’s a top 4 D he must be at least close. If he’s worth anywhere close, a 1st won’t be near enough for 4 years.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Ya, not surprising. LOL.

Murphy is worth a 1st maybe with a small plus with no retention.

 

[Magic Man]

If the Leafs already have Muzzin on LTIR permanently and Murphy is his replacement why are they "dumping" players to make cap room at the expense of young assets? You'd think they'd keep them for depth purposes or exercise asset management and trade them for draft picks.

 

[Pile]

He is American so it's a distinct possibility but as a rental destination it would be odd for the Leafs not to be a top 10 choice.

Murphy is under contract for three more seasons after this one and thus would not be a rental.

Chicago might be motivated to retain for higher value though. He'd be a nice add for your Oilers too. Could be a bidding war.

The price of retention on three more seasons would likely be more than you’re willing to pay.

 

[BlueBaron]

Murphy is under contract for three more seasons after this one and thus would not be a rental.



The price of retention on three more seasons would likely be more than you’re willing to pay.

My team isn't in that position. You'll have to talk to the Oiler fan I quoted.

 

[Pile]

My team isn't in that position. You'll have to talk to the Oiler fan I quoted.

No, I’m talking to you. The poster who inferred multiple times that Murphy is in the final year of his contract.

 

[BlueBaron]

No, I’m talking to you. The poster who inferred multiple times that Murphy is in the final year of his contract.

Ok. I still don't want retention on him but thanks for your concern.

 

[dirtydanglez]

leafs already have lots of middle pair d. they need top line d.

 

[Chief Leaf]

I'd like a bigger shake up if we were going the Chicago route:
Marner -10.903M
Holl -2.2
Engvall -2.25
2023 1st
2024 5th and 6th

to Chicago for:

Kane =10.5M
Murphy=4.4m @50% retention =2.2M
Domi =3.0m
Regula = .866k

 

[mydnyte]

Come on bow both these guys are barely NHL level. Kerfoot is a decent 4th liner and Holl isn't a NHL calibre dman at all.

If any of those guys had balue they'd be gone already

really? Kerfoot would have been 2nd on the Habs in scoring last season which is pretty good for a guy who averaged 15 mins a game, got no PP time (averaged 7 seconds last season) and is on the top PK unit, and is used in a shutdown role

 

[ACC1224]

To Toronto-
Connor Murphy
Max Domi

To Chicago-
Justin Holl
Alex Kerfoot
Nick Robertson
1st Round Pick

Leafs would have zero interest in Domi.

 

[Jerkbait]

To Toronto-
Connor Murphy
Max Domi

To Chicago-
Justin Holl
Alex Kerfoot
Nick Robertson
1st Round Pick

Yep. One small add on from the Hawks and this gets done.

Before the leafs get kerfooted again ...

 

[Space umpire]

I'd like a bigger shake up if we were going the Chicago route:
Marner -10.903M
Holl -2.2
Engvall -2.25
2023 1st
2024 5th and 6th

to Chicago for:

Kane =10.5M
Murphy=4.4m @50% retention =2.2M
Domi =3.0m
Regula = .866k

Chicago says no.
Find someone to take Marner and send something Chicago wants instead.
50% retention for 3 years after this one on Murphy would cost the leafs a lot.
Taking Holl requires sweetener.
The 5th and 6th are meaningless.

 

[Mersss]

really? Kerfoot would have been 2nd on the Habs in scoring last season which is pretty good for a guy who averaged 15 mins a game, got no PP time (averaged 7 seconds last season) and is on the top PK unit, and is used in a shutdown role

5 pts in 16games this season, weird right?

Maybe cause he can,t leach of Nylander, Tavares etc. this year heh? Pull out his most common linemates last seasona nd you'll realise he was just playing a top6 roll leaching of PPG players.

FYI, got them for you

1	405:18	32.5	JOHN TAVARES - ALEXANDER KERFOOT - WILLIAM NYLANDER	25	23	2	236	217	52.1	420	396	51.5
2	101:40	8.1	JOHN TAVARES - ALEXANDER KERFOOT - ILYA MIKHEYEV	5	1	4	54	49	52.4	92	92	50.0
3	90:46	7.3	JOHN TAVARES - ALEXANDER KERFOOT - MITCHELL MARNER	9	5	4	43	57	43.0	94	95	49.7

He played most of last season in a top6 role than a 3rd liner.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I'd like a bigger shake up if we were going the Chicago route:
Marner -10.903M
Holl -2.2
Engvall -2.25
2023 1st
2024 5th and 6th

to Chicago for:

Kane =10.5M
Murphy=4.4m @50% retention =2.2M
Domi =3.0m
Regula = .866k

Thats garbage for the Leafs.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Chicago says no.
Find someone to take Marner and send something Chicago wants instead.
50% retention for 3 years after this one on Murphy would cost the leafs a lot.
Taking Holl requires sweetener.
The 5th and 6th are meaningless.

Thats a garbage deal for the Leafs with Kane walking next year.

 

[Chief Leaf]

Thats a garbage deal for the Leafs with Kane walking next year.

Where is Kane going next year if we signed him? I feel we need a shake up . Kane is what Marner wishes he was, Murph adds solid top 4 D with some grit,..Domi has more edge than Kerfoot, and Regula although young is no slouch in the D depart with tons of upside.

But you go ahead and tell me if we are garbage now or a team that wouldn't be better off with those add -on? Nevermind we still have a few other players that we could also trade for to stregthen our team even more imo.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Where is Kane going next year if we signed him? I feel we need a shake up . Kane is what Marner wishes he was, Murph adds solid top 4 D with some grit,..Domi has more edge than Kerfoot, and Regula although young is no slouch in the D depart with tons of upside.

But you go ahead and tell me if we are garbage now or a team that wouldn't be better off with those add -on? Nevermind we still have a few other players that we could also trade for to stregthen our team even more imo.

Kane won't be resigning with the Leafs and even if he does he's in his 30's now and maybe has a couple elite years left. This move is so short sighted and heavily favors the Hawks. Stick to NHL 23.

 

[Chief Leaf]

Chicago says no.
Find someone to take Marner and send something Chicago wants instead.
50% retention for 3 years after this one on Murphy would cost the leafs a lot.
Taking Holl requires sweetener.
The 5th and 6th are meaningless.

Why wouldn't Chicago want a young Marner , a 1st and a couple of back to back picks that may seem meaningless UNLESS you understand their philospy of tearing it down and accumulating picks.

Taking Holl may be their Sweetner if you look at it in the realm of them trying to tank hard for Bedard?

This propsal is a way to start the process and ya,..They would also want Knies to possibly seal the deal but it is not that far off imo.

 

[BHawk21]

I see a ton of leafs fans saying no to Domi. Thats interesting I feel like he would be a good depth piece that could cause some havoc for you guys and move up the lineup with injuries? No?