Confirmed Trade: [TOR/TBL] Darren Raddysh (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for 2026 5th round pick (MOD WARNING 253)

[HockeyVirus]

There’s a few overly optimistic fans in every fanbase. It’s what makes HF so much fun.

How about a HF membership bet then if you are so certain? No risk for you

 

[KniesMadeBradyCry]

I can't believe this actually needs to be explained to people lol.

I think he’s more pointing out the fact that it’s stupid to call a guy out for turning 30 a month ago, which it is.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Funny no one wants to take up a wager with me. I've offered avatars and HF membership bets.

Everyones so confident the Leafs are bad until it's time to put up. I think it's cause haters are secretly worried.

Or it's because people don't want to take part in childish bets. What teams in the Atlantic do you think the Leafs are better than?

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Loved the Marchand signing because Panthers are in a win mode now with true Stanley Cup potential. I don't believe the Maple Leafs as built have ANY chance at the Stanley Cup and should be rebuilding. This just slows down the rebuild for them.

Marchand is always amazing in the playoffs too, vs Raddysh who has been terrible in them.

Leafs obviously aren't a true Stanley Cup potential. With that said - they're in a situation where the coach completely lost the team last year, their difference makers are about 30, and they don't have either of their next 2 1st round DP's. This is a deal for an organization trying to do the best it can with the cards it has to play. I understand why they don't want to rebuild right now. And if the Leaf's absolutely implode this year, they can still rebuild next year. Matthews value potentially goes up with a team being able to negotiate an extension on 7/1/2027 so the acquiring team knows they're getting him long term. Knies and Nylander trade value isn't materially affected by 1 less year on those deals. If that does happen, it's not like Raddysh's contract is going to be an anchor that is a problem, or that the Leaf's moved premier assets to get DR that could be bettered used elsewhere. IMO, at the end of the day - there is potential upside and no real downside to this deal.

My point on the age is that Raddysh is just 30 with not a ton of NHL miles on the body. This isn't the case of signing Tanev to that deal he got. IMO, this is a reasonable UFA deal where you hope it's only the last couple of years that are questionable, which is the standard expectation for UFA contracts.

I would just end that from the TB games I saw - Raddysh wasn't the problem on the Lightning. They were obviously missing Hedman, and a bunch of guys underperformed. Raddysh, while solid, isn't the level of player who is going to carry a team on his back, and that shouldn't be the expectation based on his contract going forward.

 

[Peasy]

I can't believe this actually needs to be explained to people lol.

Saying someone is on the wrong side of 30 when you have no good side of 30 makes literally zero logical sense.

You would say they are on the wrong side of their career or age if you think 30 is considered old for a players career.

 

[DaaaaB's]

I think he’s more pointing out the fact that it’s stupid to call a guy out for turning 30 a month ago, which it is.

No, he clearly didn't understand the meaning of the phrase.

 

[General Fanager]

wow...

too much for far too long.

 

[KniesMadeBradyCry]

No, he clearly didn't understand the meaning of the phrase.

Even if that is the case, the point the other dude was making is that Nylander is old, which he isn’t

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Or it's because people don't want to take part in childish bets. What teams in the Atlantic do you think the Leafs are better than?

I see the Leafs having a big bounce back season.
I think they’ll fight with Ottawa and Detroit for a playoff spot right to the end. Montreal, Buffalo and Tampa are the clear top 3 and Florida with Barkov back looks like a lock as well.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

It’s an accurate comment for any bottom five team. The only thing the Leafs will be contending for is to see if they can move up to playoff bubble team status. Their long dark rebuild will commence in a couple of years once they have their own first round pick again.

From a Canucks fan you cant tell me you aren't projecting lol. I get it though, misery loves company. Who knows though maybe you will get your wish.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

lol until he’s 38 from one good year

 

[frederixx]

Funny no one wants to take up a wager with me. I've offered avatars and HF membership bets.

Everyones so confident the Leafs are bad until it's time to put up. I think it's cause haters are secretly worried.

I'm up for a bet, are you saying the leafs will be on top of the Atlantic division?

 

[General Fanager]

How about a wager? Avatar? What will you be saying by Dec when the Leafs are around the top of the Atlantic?

That is not happening

 

[Crazy Monkey]

Not sure how many times it needs to be said no one not the Leafs front office or fans expect 70 points

We're expecting 80, right?!!

 

[DaaaaB's]

Saying someone is on the wrong side of 30 when you have no good side of 30 makes literally zero logical sense.

You would say they are on the wrong side of their career or age if you think 30 is considered old for a players career.

The good side of 30 is being under 30. This saying has been around forever lol.

 

[PensandCaps]

Saying he had only one good year is disingenuous. He had solid production and play the years prior for having little PP time.

33 points and 37 points the last two seasons at aound 18 mins a night is solid.

 

[Ole Gil]

The Lupul/Robidas/Muzzin LTIRetirement seems like the better option or just buy the guy out.

I was just thinking Seth Jarvis will be in his mid 30's by then, and the Canes could use another one.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

If he specifically wanted Toronto I’m almost guaranteeing this contract comes with a full NMC at least for the first 6 years. The only way this contract is worthwhile is if he continues playing at an anomalous level.

What do you consider an anomalous level?
If its 70 points then this contract is a steal compared to the defenceman who are consistant 70 point producers.
Is it 60 points? Then this contract is still a steal compared to 60 point producers.
Is it 50 points? 22 defenceman just recorded over 50 points and this new contract puts him ahead of only 6 of them. Of those 6 one is a rookie and 5 of the rest are in the last 2 years of their previous deals.

So tell me again how this contract is NOT worthwhile?

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

So let me see if this makes sense.
Oilers over pay Walman at 30 for past outstanding play and its a great contract even though the Oilers have no cap space to improve with a generational star about to walk if things don't get better.

I never said it was a great contract, so you are inventing things already. Also source on “no cap space”?

Leafs over pay Raddysh at 30 for his past outstanding play and still have 20 million in cap space to get better but they are the idiots?

They are idiots, yes.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Or it's because people don't want to take part in childish bets. What teams in the Atlantic do you think the Leafs are better than?

Most of them. Tampa are done they will be a wildcard team at best too old their D is cooked and their core has all declined.

Boston overachieved on unsustainable goaltending.

Detroit rebuilding the rebuild

Sabres, Habs who knows. Leafs are in this mix and IMO better than both

 

[Nostradeeznuts]

wow...

too much for far too long.

isn't the cap going to be something silly like 140 within 5 yrs? with the elc rates projected to be only 1mil, its really no big deal to spend now

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Most of them. Tampa are done they will be a wildcard team at best too old their D is cooked and their core has all declined.

Boston overachieved on unsustainable goaltending.

Detroit rebuilding the rebuild

Sabres, Habs who knows. Leafs are in this mix and IMO better than both

A bottom five team better than the Habs??????
I’ll have what you’re having!

 

[General Fanager]

Most of them. Tampa are done they will be a wildcard team at best too old their D is cooked and their core has all declined.

Boston overachieved on unsustainable goaltending.

Detroit rebuilding the rebuild

Sabres, Habs who knows. Leafs are in this mix and IMO better than both

You think The Leafs are better than the Sabres and Habs?

 

[HockeyVirus]

I'm up for a bet, are you saying the leafs will be on top of the Atlantic division?

All I am hearing is how the Leafs are bottom feeders and destined for a long dark rebuild and these moves do nothing but make rebuilding harder. Many have said best case we have put outselves in no mans land will finish out of the playoffs or barely make wildcard spot.

I am saying in that case, a bet that the Leafs finish in an Atlantic division spot should be free money.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Saying he had only one good year is disingenuous. He had solid production and play the years prior for having little PP time.

33 points and 37 points the last two seasons at aound 18 mins a night is solid.

Yeah the 30 point seasons is not why he got 8.5 hence the one good year (relative)