Proposal: TOR/NYR

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

William Nylander
Petr Mrazek (50% retained)



Ryan Reaves
Alexander Georgiev
Braden Schneider
NYR 1st 2022

Rangers shore up high octane output on their wing from Nylander who is a PPG player in his prime while Kaako continues to figure it out, as well as a goalie in Mrazek who has some experience to back up Shesterkin and won't face a lot of puck to preserve his angel hair pasta groin.

Leafs fortify their fourth line with some serious grit, get a quality tandem goalie waiting for a pay day who will likely get around 2-2.5M$ per, plus a really good RHD prospect and a late 1st this year knowing that 2023 is a better draft class. And, yeah.... cap space to address other issues.

Pretty awful offer. And the Rangers don't have their #1.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not a good trade for Rangers, but good trade for the Leafs.

 

[David Suzuki]

NYR flat out couldn't do this without TML retaining 50% on BOTH Nylander AND Mrazek,

You can make more than one move in the off season

 

[TGWL]

Then .Lindgren at 3 per x 2 for a 1st + add. pick = no cap hit, NY has Robertson + to break in.

If you've watched 1/3 of the 14 games NYR have played, you would know there isn't a chance we're trading Lindgren and replacing him with Robertson, just to clear our some space for next year. He's a warrior and a pretty important part of our defense.

Regarding the offer and ignoring cap - Rangers want to sign Copp, and we have Panarin, Kreider, Laf, Kakko, as wingers. There's no room for Nylander without trading one of those/not signing Copp. I don't want Copp playing 2c, I'd prefer him on the wing. So we still need to find a 2c.

 

[Weltschmerz]

You can make more than one move in the off season

Ah so what would the other moves be?

Entertain us

 

[Maplebeasts]

So let me get this straight. We're giving up an 80 point winger who has been a 30+ goal scorer for 3 years now and the best piece we get back is Braden Schneider? Not a chance and anyone saying this offer is good for us is clueless.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Not a good trade for Rangers, but good trade for the Leafs.

No it's not. Ignoring the fact the Rangers don't even have their first how is this good for us? Nylander is an 80 point winger, 30+ goal scorer and is still fairly young. Reaves is washed. Schneider though young is not actually playing well and Georgiev just came off an awful season and needs a new contract. It's honestly horrendous value. Especially when we're trying to WIN NOW.

 

[TS Quint]

No it's not. Ignoring the fact the Rangers don't even have their first how is this good for us? Nylander is an 80 point winger, 30+ goal scorer and is still fairly young. Reaves is washed. Schneider though young is not actually playing well and Georgiev just came off an awful season and needs a new contract. It's honestly horrendous value. Especially when we're trying to WIN NOW.

Rank these players : Sandin, Liljegren, Holl, Gio, Schneider.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Rank these players : Sandin, Liljegren, Holl, Gio, Schneider.

Gio
Liljegren
Sandin
Schneider
Holl

 

[pld459666]

William Nylander
Petr Mrazek (50% retained)



Ryan Reaves
Alexander Georgiev
Braden Schneider
NYR 1st 2022

Rangers shore up high octane output on their wing from Nylander who is a PPG player in his prime while Kaako continues to figure it out, as well as a goalie in Mrazek who has some experience to back up Shesterkin and won't face a lot of puck to preserve his angel hair pasta groin.

Leafs fortify their fourth line with some serious grit, get a quality tandem goalie waiting for a pay day who will likely get around 2-2.5M$ per, plus a really good RHD prospect and a late 1st this year knowing that 2023 is a better draft class. And, yeah.... cap space to address other issues.

NYR have 13.5 million in cap space to sign 9 players to fill out a 23 man roster.

The important pending RFA/UFA's are Copp, Kakko, Blais and Motte.

Those four alone may clear out that 13 million or come thisclose to clearing that out.

Moving Nemeth will help, but I guess the overall point is that William Nylander would be a nice get, he's not a player the NYR's can afford

Regarding the package itself, two meh assets in Reaves and Geo, a 1st we do not have and Schneider which is where the conversation goes off the rails.

Not a value issue, more of a need and fit issue

Schneider is going through his trial by fire right now. Will not be drinking age until September and is playing a respectable 11:52 per night on one of the better defensive teams in the league (still standing in the playoffs)

His value to the Rangers as an inexpensive player that will remain relatively inexpensive for the next few years as the window to contention opens is a HUGE need for the Rangers. That value to the Rangers exceeds the value that Nylander brings and that's no knock,.

I like Willie, I like that he plays both wings. I'd love to see him on the RW to Chytil and Lafreniere. I think that line would do some insane things offensively, The issue is the current salary structure would not make much sense adding him.

I think the move the Leafs need to make is trading Marner. If the Leafs are happy with their D core, Marner would be the guy that would bring back better (MORE) depth up front, or would allow the Leafs to obtain a goalie that they can trust and lean on.

Overall, not a fit between the two teams.

 

[cwede]

You can make more than one move in the off season

understood,
but there are no pricy guys NYR would move to add Nylander
Wing is not their priority, at his full salary, he is no-go for NYR

but the whole deal is totally unlikely, Schneider not in play, and many guys comparable to Mrazek out there

just cuz a Leafs fan hopes to turn Nylander into Scheider and 1st, doesn't mean it should happen

 

[BlueBaron]

These Nylander trades are getting silly. If you are going to offer up a guy who is almost certainly not getting trading at least show the imagination of addressing a major need.

Its not that hard. Top 4 RHD, Top 6 LW, or a Good starter.

I knew this trade would be unrealistic when I saw us trading for a draft pick....

 

[Lays]

This is a f***ing steal for Toronto. Leafs fans are wild if they turn this down for Nylander. Schneider is a future top pairing shut down RHD. I’m not giving him straight up for a winger that Leafs fans want to dump

I love Willy Ny so I’m open to other offers but Leafs fans still need a reality check here with that offer

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I lost faith in this site if rangers fans are so biased that they believe in a vacuum Schnider is worth anywhere’s near Fiala, Nylander or Ehlers.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Just what the Rangers need, another winger. Awful proposal, feel shame.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Rank these players : Sandin, Liljegren, Holl, Gio, Schneider.

Gio
Schnider
Lilijgren
Sandin
Holl

 

[Golden_Jet]

Rank these players : Sandin, Liljegren, Holl, Gio, Schneider.

Gio, Schneider, Lily, Sandin, Holl.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I lost faith in this site if rangers fans are so biased that they believe in a vacuum Schnider is worth anywhere’s near Fiala, Nylander or Ehlers.

I guess you forgot about the first, Reaves and Georgiev. Even though they don’t have a first. Schneider is exactly what you need.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I guess you forgot about the first, Reaves and Georgiev. Even though they don’t have a first. Schneider is exactly what you need.

Not commenting on deal at all. Just the attitude of the thread

 

[TGWL]

This is clearly a cap move offer while grabbing back a 1st and a D prospect/player. But NYR aren't the team to offload cap to. We're not making the trade and figuring it out later.

 

[Gardner McKay]

William Nylander
Petr Mrazek (50% retained)



Ryan Reaves
Alexander Georgiev
Braden Schneider
NYR 1st 2022

Rangers shore up high octane output on their wing from Nylander who is a PPG player in his prime while Kaako continues to figure it out, as well as a goalie in Mrazek who has some experience to back up Shesterkin and won't face a lot of puck to preserve his angel hair pasta groin.

Leafs fortify their fourth line with some serious grit, get a quality tandem goalie waiting for a pay day who will likely get around 2-2.5M$ per, plus a really good RHD prospect and a late 1st this year knowing that 2023 is a better draft class. And, yeah.... cap space to address other issues.

Wingers are the last thing we need. We also don't have a 1st round pick in 2022 and can't afford those cap hits. We just don't make sense as a trading partner.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not commenting on deal at all. Just the attitude of the thread

Well you did, by saying Schneider doesn’t get you Nylander, which wasn’t the whole trade. No idea what attitude in the thread means.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Guess Nylander's value plummeted after that weak backcheck.

 

[Kupo]

What does Marner have to do with this

Meant Nylander.

 

[bernmeister]

Non of the 2 FLA teams have the cap space for Trouba even at 6M$. And he has a NMC, you can't bribe him. He stays in NY for sure. Even if he has a MNTC after next year, he still controls where he goes, he just needs to put every rebuilding team and non cap-strap team to his list to make sure he stays in NYC.

Nemeth wil require a 2nd for each yea he has left on his deal. 2.5M$ for an AHL dman is wayyy too much

So Nemeth + NYR 2022 2nd + NYR 2023 2nd for Futur Consid, that could work for Arizona I guess

Lindgren isn't worth a 1st, let alone a 1st +, bottom pairing d-man don't fetch that. And again, team who would be interested in Lindgren (playoff teams) won't take him without sending salary back in the trade cause they'll also be cap strapped. And the team who aren't / rebuilding teams won't send a 1st rd pick for him that's absurd

bold: you ignored where I said: "FL may send Reinhart + Weegar to OTT" which would = cap space for Trouba at 6, and they would need him esp if Weegar goes.
Also nothing wrong/illegal about telling a player, look you got us, do us a favor now and we owe you one when you retire, on top of favor we will do re: your wife's gig. If he says no, which is his right, then when the shoe is on the other foot and they trade him in 2 years, they do not have to apply any consideration as to any preference he may have at that time, and he will be moved in accordance with the contract.

Your hate for Lindgren, who is not a bottom pair D is ridiculous.

It will cost to move Nemeth but ballpark that will be a wash vs Geo rfa rights.