Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Matthews extended (5 years, $11.63M AAV)

[Commander Clueless]

I honestly thought they would.

The scary thought is: what if that IS the discount?

 

[Voight]

Hahah please.

- Made more than McDavid when you factor in the cap hit with term

- All in signing bonus so that should have gotten a discount

- No major awards unlike all the comparables being used (Ovi, Sid, and McDavid)

- Walks him right to UFA

Garbage. **** him.

Eichel got 10 million for scoring what, 100 points in 2 seasons?

 

[RogerRoger]

What is everyone talking about saying that this takes him to UFA?

I thought UFA was after his 3rd contract for hitting age 27.

This contract does neither of those.

27 years old or played 7 years.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

It’s 27 or 7 years pro . It’s the second

OHHHHHHHHHH! Duh!

Well then.....yeah this is not good for the Leafs. That's just not good at all.

 

[danyhabsfan]

What is everyone talking about saying that this takes him to UFA?

I thought UFA was after his 3rd contract for hitting age 27.

This contract does neither of those.

It's 7 years or 27 years old.

So that deal covers 1 UFA year. (3 years entry level deal + 4 RFA + 1 UFA)

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Dubas handing out these big contracts like candy. Dude has been horrible.

I'm lovin' it. I really can't wait to see how much money they have tied up to so few players after the dust has settled.

 

[BlueBaron]

oh god its buyout proof also. LOL LOL LOL

Real big concern....desperate much?

Not an ideal contract but could have been worse.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Makes the contract buyout proof. You now have TWO huge contracts that are essentially buyout proof. Both are generational talents but **** happens and stacking buyout proof contracts is a recipe for disaster.

LOL. Buying out those two guys is problem number 101 on the list of top 100 problems.

 

[SI90]

The scary thought is: what if that IS the discount?

That thought had occurred to me as well and it might be true.

 

[redwings25]

brutal for leafs. Arizona has 5 years to get there stuff together

 

[TimeZone]

 

[Bevans]

can someone please explain why any of this matters other than lockout protection?

Money today is worth more than money tomorrow. There's an Economic formula for it too.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Imagine toronto's July balance sheet. Could be looking like a regular NHL teams net profit that month lol

 

[deckercky]

My gripe isn't the 5 years in itself, it's that doing a shorter contract should bring along a palatable AAV.

This one certainly does not. It's a bad deal and a weak negotiation by Dubas.

There was nothing to negotiate. If someone would pay that much for Matthews, then that's what he can demand (and he did). Elite talents get elite compensation.

This means Matthews + Marner will almost certainly be more than $20M combined, meaning the Leafs almost certainly need to trade Nylander before next season.

 

[Liferleafer]

So Leaf fans does this change what you think Marner will sign at?

Nope...probably gets 9 million.

 

[DarylO]

Huge overpay. Not happy. Should be 8 years at that hit.

 

[The Macho King]

I mean - it's not a totally awful contract because he's not going to suck or anything, so it's not like, say - David Backes contract. But this is a huge overpayment for not enough term. He's being paid like the second best player in the league and he ain't that, and you don't even get 8 years out of it.

Bad contract.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Remember when there was no way Dubas couldn't sign all 3 kids? I 'member...

What you just said is a double negative, and Toronto is looking like they'll be over the cap with 7 or 8 roster spots to fill.

But congrats on giving Nylander $7M to not even put up half a PPG.

 

[nturn06]

What is everyone talking about saying that this takes him to UFA?

I thought UFA was after his 3rd contract for hitting age 27.

This contract does neither of those.

"Any player whose contract has expired can declare himself an unrestricted free agent if he is at least 27 years old or has at least seven years playing as an NHL player."


OUCH. It looks like Dubas hired Chia as advisor.

 

[Killer Orcas]

What is everyone talking about saying that this takes him to UFA?

I thought UFA was after his 3rd contract for hitting age 27.

This contract does neither of those.

7 years total he's free.

 

[glucker]

Congrats everyone. Now we can talk about Marner then finally be ****ing done with it.

Nah, after Marner we’ll hear how Kapanen is the real generational guy, and how the Leafs can’t afford him.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Now the Leafs fans are going to be listening to 5 straight years of "Matthews is going to walk at the end of this contract". I think that's the real downside for them!

McDavid signed for 8 years and people still talk about how he supposedly wants out.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Money today is worth more than money tomorrow. There's an Economic formula for it too.

I get that and its good for matthews but this buy out proof narative is stupid. Matthews has a ZERO percent chance of being bought out before age 26. it just was never going to happen.

 

[Randy Randerson]

Behind muzzin and Rielly. Who’s going to play d for this team next year?

Dermott has been terrific, he'll move into Gardiner's spot and probably carry the 2nd pairing. He's done that with a larger 3rd pairing role than the one he had last year, and has played really well when getting the chance to play up the lineup

 

[Clark4Ever]

It looks like Dubas caved a bit to avoid a Nylander scenario.

The AAV is palatable, but not at that term.

 

[NeverForget06]

OUCH. It looks like Dubas hired Chia as advisor.

Chia signed McDavid to a much better contract lol