Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Leafs sign Peter Holland (1 year, $1.3M)
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paulhiggins
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Like Colborne, he doesn't have any jam in his game. If he knows what he needs to do and can't be bothered or doesn't think his future is a grinder then he is all he will ever be. Useful as a depth forward and shootout specialist. He wan't the worst player in the league last year.
Finnish your Czech
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He's well below average defensively. He's a poor skater and relatively lazy, but he has very good hands and a little bit of offensive instinct.
Kelly
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Nope, I don't remember TON of proposals with Percy and Holland as main pieces either.. I also didn't realize asking for some proof of a false generalization was being defensive, but okay.
Most Leaf fans knew Holland was a dime-a-dozen player, and had little value around the league.
Doesn't it get a liittle sore when you exaggerate that much?
mouser
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Yes. The regular season waiver period for loaning players to the AHL doesn't begin until 12 days before the start of the regular season.
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You need to ice 12 forwards. You only need 6 d-man. What is the bigger number?Peter Holland is a forward. Corrado is a defenceman. We have 17 other NHL capable forwards, and just 7 other NHL capable defenseman
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You need to ice 12 forwards. You only need 6 d-man. What is the bigger number?
After we ice those 12 forwards we have 5 others left over besides Holland as depth. After we ice those 6 D we only have 1 other besides Corrado left over as depth.
Thus Corrado is more important for us than Holland is.
And Babcock may potentially run with a 13 forward, 8 D roster in which case Corrado is on the roster, and we would still have 4 other capable forwards before we need Holland.
Damn people, think a little, this isn't difficult.
Finnish your Czech
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You need to ice 12 forwards. You only need 6 d-man. What is the bigger number?
17 - 12 vs 7 - 6
Which is a larger number
Juxtaposer
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If it's substantiated, we can revisit it. But until then it's all hearsay and that hearsay shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt, like I've seen Leafs management get too much of over the past few months.
uncleben
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Not true.
Claiming the player gives the player quite the leverage in negotiating a new contract (which still needs to be done with the new team).
Unless a team truly things he's worth the upper range in salary, or that he'll be claimed by someone else with greater priority in October, they would be smart to wait, let the Leafs settle on a cheaper contract, and claim him later.
That said, I think this is poor flexing, by Lou. It worked with MIN and Schroeder, but Holland has a much better case than Schroeder, is much more likely to be claimed, and really has no reason to be on a two-way.
There's much I like about what Lou is bringing, but there is much I very much question. (Not like, "What are you doing?? You are ruining the team!" but the small things, that make you say, "Why? That's not necessary..." I don't think he is the best at asset management, especially minor asset management, for example.)
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TheCLAM
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You need to ice 12 forwards. You only need 6 d-man. What is the bigger number?
Kadri-Bozak-Matthews-Laich
No room for Holland
Tripod
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uncleben
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I think you guys would be happy enough with that.
I'd prefer to trade him on the cheap to you though..
Quares27
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It's a smart tactic. Teams likely won't pick him up in case he gets a high price in arbitration like 3mil. And the fact that no teams picked him up for free on waivers is a bargaining chip for the Leafs in arbitration.
The best case scenario would be to do this, lower his price in arbitration and then trade him to a team that would have use for him on a cheaper contract than he would have had if picked up on waivers. I can't recall if you can trade a player after they've filed for arbitration though
The best case scenario would be to do this, lower his price in arbitration and then trade him to a team that would have use for him on a cheaper contract than he would have had if picked up on waivers. I can't recall if you can trade a player after they've filed for arbitration though
If that is the case then he will be claimed. If not then maybe he needs more work and a two way deal for one or two years may be the best thing for him. Heck if he is a NHL player a two way deal means nothing to him.
Finnish your Czech
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I think it's more so for lowering his NHL salary. I doubt the Leafs care about whether he is on a one-way or two-way anyways. I think he'll be claimed, though. 25 years old, 195 games of NHL experience. 30 point+ pace in the past two seasons.
