Confirmed with Link: [TOR/FLA] Denis Malgin for Mason Marchment

[Hoglund4MvP]

Im just going to jump back to the other side real quick now though and give a nice compromise so everyone can be friends.

Leafs still own Malgins rights so this story might not be over. He's doing really well and will hit that 25 year old Bunting breakout year next year.

Malgin 2023 breakout incoming, call him Malkin instead. And not the John Mitchell kind.

What wrong with Johnny Malkin.

 

[Havoc]

What wrong with Johnny Malkin.

LOL I'm not ready to take on Jonas Hoglund. Nothing is wrong with Johnny Malkin. Best Leaf of all time.

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

There was no way Marchment would of been successful with our organization. We had Hyman, Mikheyev, Kapanen, Johnsson, Mikheyev, Engvall. We had more posters interested in Timashov developing than Marchment as a FA signing.

If anything this bodes well for the organization ability to develop and revive careers. Do not see this trade as a negative.

 

[justloveleafs]

Give me any kid with what Marchment had physiologically and I will have the net result throw Pierre Engvall over the boards legally with a hip check...

Hopefully Engvall lands on Gauthier's lap..

 

[Dekes For Days]

Here's an example of a quote: In Mason Marchment's case, it took just about every available development resource the Toronto Maple Leafs have at their disposal.

An article just for Marchment, ready to finally be given a chance after Leafs spend 4 years investing in him......and the chance never comes. He gets 4 games and shipped off for Malgin. It's really straight forward how that's an L for us from that perspective. If you don't think it's an L, then it's still straight forward why people think it was dumb to trade someone you developed and when it's time to finally see what came of that development....you don't have the patience to see it. 4 games is all he got.

Florida got all our work for free!!

1. Florida didn't get anything for free. They traded away a better player for a shot in the dark, that only even paid off after Marchment hit UFA status anyway - when they could have actually had him for free.
2. We put every available development resource at our disposal into every player that goes through our organization. I don't know why you think Marchment is special, aside from the fact that he had so, so much to improve if he had a chance to even crack the NHL as a fringe player. Florida put development resources into Malgin as well.
3. You act like we didn't give him a chance, but we gave him 4 years and around 200 games with our organization to earn a spot (as somebody who was already quite old to begin with), and he never did. That's more of a chance than pretty much anybody gives players like that. Quite frankly, he didn't even earn those 4 NHL games, but we gave them to him anyway, and he didn't look very good.

They spent 4 years with him. They know him inside and out more than anyone else in the universe.

Exactly, which kind of contradicts your idea that teams need to give every single player that ever passes through their organization an extended look on their NHL team before they trade them, even if they haven't earned that spot, and it's your last chance to get any kind of return out of your investment.

 

[aingefan]

Give me any kid with what Marchment had physiologically and I will have the net result throw Pierre Engvall over the boards legally with a hip check...

Hopefully Engvall lands on Gauthier's lap..

You can’t be complaining about Pierre’s play this year.

 

[paulhiggins]

Dubas's analytics considered everything except pedigree, size and drive. Even with a couple hundred NHL games experience before the trade, Malgin was on a 0 points in 80 games pace for us. We'll never see him here as a Leaf...too embarrassing for Dubas to even think about giving him another chance.

 

[Cams]

1. Florida didn't get anything for free. They traded away a better player for a shot in the dark, that only even paid off after Marchment hit UFA status anyway - when they could have actually had him for free.
2. We put every available development resource at our disposal into every player that goes through our organization. I don't know why you think Marchment is special, aside from the fact that he had so, so much to improve if he had a chance to even crack the NHL as a fringe player. Florida put development resources into Malgin as well.
3. You act like we didn't give him a chance, but we gave him 4 years and around 200 games with our organization to earn a spot (as somebody who was already quite old to begin with), and he never did. That's more of a chance than pretty much anybody gives players like that. Quite frankly, he didn't even earn those 4 NHL games, but we gave them to him anyway, and he didn't look very good.

Exactly, which kind of contradicts your idea that teams need to give every single player that ever passes through their organization an extended look on their NHL team before they trade them, even if they haven't earned that spot, and it's your last chance to get any kind of return out of your investment.

This whole thread does not get revisited if he doesn't have the 6 pt game this week. People are making this out like this was Courtnall for Kordic.

 

[The Podium]

What wrong with Johnny Malkin.

I miss Joe Bowen calling televised games. He was our Jack Edwards.

 

[bigbabybuda]

This thread is about as absurd as a 30 page thread blamming our G.M at the time passing on Datsyuk in the draft. Marchment was an absolute nothing burger when he got traded. He has made something of hia career in Florida so good for him but its not Dubas fault he let go of a waiver wire level player like 18months ago or whatever it was. No one in the world saw this coming. These arguments are idiotic.

 

[tmlms13]

My 2 cents. Look at the Panthers team scoring.

I could get 60 points there.

 

[zeke]

This thread is going to be extra funny in a couple weeks when Florida's genius GM's team gets passed by our poor sucker GM's team.

 

[aingefan]

I’m happy for Mason.
I would not want to be the next GM to sign him.

 

[ToneDog]

This thread is going to be extra funny in a couple weeks when Florida's genius GM's team gets passed by our poor sucker GM's team.

As crazy as that sounds, Panthers don't play until Feb. 16th so if Leafs can beat Canes, Flames, Canucks and Kraken, they will be tied on Feb. 14th.

If our poor sucker GM's team has a great month of February, they could be leading the division. That would put them in the driver's seat to winning the division and would give Kyle's boys home ice for the first 2 rounds. Kyle could then go all in at the TDL.

 

[Koolboss]

I disagree about Kadri. He is not a 30 goal scorer, and he will probably never come close to that again. Last season in Toronto, he was invisible and did f*** all. He was a diminishing asset. I don't think we got a good return, but I didn't mind trading him.

This is why we are trolled on main boards. He will score more than 32 goals, maybe this season if he is not hurt.

 

[zeke]

As crazy as that sounds, Panthers don't play until Feb. 16th so if Leafs can beat Canes, Flames, Canucks and Kraken, they will be tied on Feb. 14th.

If our poor sucker GM's team has a great month of February, they could be leading the division. That would put them in the driver's seat to winning the division and would give Kyle's boys home ice for the first 2 rounds. Kyle could then go all in at the TDL.

Heck if we just win the first 2 games we pass the Panthers in pts% already.

Though the Carolina game won't be easy.

 

[paulhiggins]

I disagree about Kadri. He is not a 30 goal scorer, and he will probably never come close to that again. Last season in Toronto, he was invisible and did f*** all. He was a diminishing asset. I don't think we got a good return, but I didn't mind trading him.

Considering both Dubas trades, I'd rather we still had Kadri and Marchment than Malgin and Kerfoot. One year of the defenceman Barrie who couldn't play defence as a throw-in in the Kadri trade was a negative asset and waste of cap space.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Considering both Dubas trades, I'd rather we still had Kadri and Marchment than Malgin and Kerfoot. One year of the defenceman Barrie who couldn't play defence as a throw-in in the Kadri trade was a negative asset and waste of cap space.

True, lol, some of these quotes can look funny when the athletes prove us wrong. D’oh!

 

[hotpaws]

This thread is going to be extra funny in a couple weeks when Florida's genius GM's team gets passed by our poor sucker GM's team.

What does this have to do with the Marchment trade ?

 

[zeke]

What does this have to do with the Marchment trade ?

I dunno - why is a thread about a trade of a mediocre AHLer years ago the hottest topic in the Leafs board as they sit right near the top of the standings?

 

[ShaneFalco]

I dunno - why is a thread about a trade of a mediocre AHLer years ago the hottest topic in the Leafs board as they sit right near the top of the standings?

Maybe it reflects poor judgement/waste of assets by Dubas and not just with this particular player - Ritchie, Mrazek (debatable at this point), Simmonds, Clifford, Foligno (who they wanted to re-sign), Riitich, Jumbo, Nash, Hutton, Barrie, Petan.......

 

[ULF_55]

Toronto the player factory.

 

[AvroArrow]

I miss Joe Bowen calling televised games. He was our Jack Edwards.

Please don't disrespect Joe Bowen like that. Jack Edwards is probably the dumbest play by play guy in the league.

 

[zeke]

Maybe it reflects poor judgement/waste of assets by Dubas and not just with this particular player - Ritchie, Mrazek (debatable at this point), Simmonds, Clifford, Foligno (who they wanted to re-sign), Riitich, Jumbo, Nash, Hutton, Barrie, Petan.......

Yeah I figured this was about arguing that the GM of one of the best teams in hockey full of value signings is bad at GMing.

 

[kerk]

would y'all still be mad if we had lost marchment on waivers when he wasn't good enough to make the team the next year instead of getting traded for malgin?

nobody could have known the guy with this stat line prior to this season would go ahead and go PPG through 22 games in his 26 year-old season and score 6 points in 1 game

hey, malgin turns 26 next year. maybe he still has a breakout in him.