Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] D Chris Tanev signs extension with the Maple Leafs (6 years, $4.5M AAV)

The Nuge

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Brad should try to add Trouba. This would be a very solid blueline.

Tanev - Rielly
McCabe - Trouba
OEL - Liljegren

I don’t know if I’d call it really solid. There’s still only 1 top pairing dman, and 2 more legit top 4 dmen. And it’s not like they can fit it under the cap.

Happy the B's got Zadorov for $500,000 more.

No chance Tanev plays till he's 40

Why? Tanev is unquestionably the better dman, and he’s cheaper. Tanev might not be a top pairing dman anymore, but he’s still a good second pairing guy. Zadorov has never, and will never be a top 4 dman.

How long until he goes to Robidas Island?

I wonder if they were able to insure his contract for this exact reason. You’d think any insurance company would flat out refuse it.
 

Byron Bitz

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Only 4 years too long, still good right??
The length is interesting, I feel like there’s some sort of understanding that the last couple years will be spent on Robidas Island but there will be a new CBA in that time and it’s possible changes could get made to the LTIR rules.
 

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It’s a dumb deal. It’s proven time and time again for the past 8 freaking years that no matter who you surround the core with they just don’t have “it”. So next off season finally they rid themselves of Marner and JT, but Tanev will be 35 already and continuing his decline. I still don’t think Leafs win a round in 2025. He will be 36 during the 2026 playoffs when the Leafs can finally do something in the playoffs after getting rid of those 2 boat anchors. This signing is absolute garbage.
 

hotpaws

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yeah it's too much term but how many decent players didn't get too much term or are overpaid or both ?

my blueline was crap , our last GM gutted our picks and left a weak prospect pool with little coming up that can help in the near future or in the future period , so our options were

overpay for ufa D's

or

don't sign anybody and write off the year and hope to sign younger quality D at more reasonable prices next year
 

Suntouchable13

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yeah it's too much term but how many decent players didn't get too much term or are overpaid or both ?

my blueline was crap , our last GM gutted our picks and left a weak prospect pool with little coming up that can help in the near future or in the future period , so our options were

overpay for ufa D's

or

don't sign anybody and write off the year and hope to sign younger quality D at more reasonable prices next year

They are already writing off the year as this is 1st round and done team again with the same core. By the time 2026 playoffs arrive, he will be 36 and further declining. Or are they delusional enough to think 9th year will go any different than the previous 8?
 

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It’s a dumb deal. It’s proven time and time again for the past 8 freaking years that no matter who you surround the core with they just don’t have “it”. So next off season finally they rid themselves of Marner and JT, but Tanev will be 35 already and continuing his decline. I still don’t think Leafs win a round in 2025. He will be 36 during the 2026 playoffs when the Leafs can finally do something in the playoffs after getting rid of those 2 boat anchors. This signing is absolute garbage.
Agree mostly, JT is what he is and waiting a year would have been smart. I’ve never understood all the mariner hate.
The other guy killing the Leafs is Reilly who has offense (yet can’t run a power play) and is 3rd pair level bad in his own zone. Any top pair where Reilly is one of the two will be a failure.
Recheck those game 7 highlights he is directly responsible for both goals against in a 2-1 game 7 loss.
 

hotpaws

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They are already writing off the year as this is 1st round and done team again with the same core. By the time 2026 playoffs arrive, he will be 36 and further declining. Or are they delusional enough to think 9th year will go any different than the previous 8?
This year isn't written off and Tanev's play may fall off a cliff in the near future or he may age gracefully and still have value like Hainsey did at an older age , only time will tell .

I would have forced JT to waive and even with an 11m cap hit he's only owed less than 1m in actually salary , all it would have taken was to sit him down and tell him it's his choice to play out the final year of his deal but he'll be in a very reduced role and he won't be offered an extension . JT isn't retiring at the end of this year and he'll whine like the bitch he is playing 12/13 mins on the 3rd line with 2nd pp usage so they'd be a very good chance he'd waive .
 

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I would have forced JT to waive and even with an 11m cap hit he's only owed less than 1m in actually salary , all it would have taken was to sit him down and tell him it's his choice to play out the final year of his deal but he'll be in a very reduced role and he won't be offered an extension .
Being punished for not waiving your CBA negotiated right?
A) it doesn’t happen.
B) if they tried how many picks will the punishment from the league total.

With all the empty threats he’s still a 2nd line C.
No longer top level but no indication that he’s dogging it. His skills are regressing with age.
An attempt to punish him for this would be met harshly by the league and the NHLPA.

Don’t blame him for getting old. Blame Shanahan for the length of contract.
 
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hotpaws

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Being punished for not waiving your CBA negotiated right?
A) it doesn’t happen.
B) if they tried how many picks will the punishment from the league total.

With all the empty threats he’s still a 2nd line C.
No longer top level but no indication that he’s dogging it. His skills are regressing with age.
An attempt to punish him for this would be met harshly by the league and the NHLPA.

Don’t blame him for getting old. Blame Shanahan for the length of contract.
it has nothing to do with punishing him , he can't keep up with the play and without having a 90 plus point winger on his line driving the play and padding his stats it would be even more obvious how much of a liability he is

basically all he can do and does is take face offs well and hang around the net front , that's it

and i don't blame him for getting old , i blame him for being a selfish prick who puts padding his stats above trying to help the team win
 

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The league was always going to do something about LTIR. It wasn't just the Leafs abusing it.

Teams will likely just find another loophole though. They always do.
 

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I’d be perfectly happy to see the LTIR loopholes closed up, but (assuming this article is believable) it is hilarious that it wasn’t Tampa’s or Vegas’s exploitation of LTIR on their way to Stanley Cup victories that finally got the league’s attention, but Chris Tanev’s deal with the Leafs.
 

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I’d be perfectly happy to see the LTIR loopholes closed up, but (assuming this article is believable) it is hilarious that it wasn’t Tampa’s or Vegas’s exploitation of LTIR on their way to Stanley Cup victories that finally got the league’s attention, but Chris Tanev’s deal with the Leafs.
You snooze you lose
 
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Peasy

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You always know its a quality article when they never link the source of what they made their click bait article on 👍

Entire article is based on some random reporter speculating what the NHL might do.

Bettman has literally said nothing, and no reporters are quoting anything that Bettman said.

Journalism is a joke nowadays. People just read a headline and take it as fact.
 

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You always know its a quality article when they never link the source of what they made their click bait article on 👍

Entire article is based on some random reporter speculating what the NHL might do.

Bettman has literally said nothing, and no reporters are quoting anything that Bettman said.

Journalism is a joke nowadays. People just read a headline and take it as fact.
I read 2-3 reporters, Parsons, Duhatshek and the hockey writers.
It makes sense though, no-one thinks Tanev is playing until 40
 
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Rob Brown

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I read 2-3 reporters, Parsons, Duhatshek and the hockey writers.
It makes sense though, no-one thinks Tanev is playing until 40
The only quote in the article you posted is from Eric Duhatschek and it doesn't mention Tanev at all. The entire article you posted and the one on The Hockey Writers quotes this mailbag article from Eric Duhatschek on The Athletic and I just read it and there is zero mention of the Leafs 'maybe being in trouble' lol.
 

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I read 2-3 reporters, Parsons, Duhatshek and the hockey writers.
It makes sense though, no-one thinks Tanev is playing until 40
Again, please show me a source from any of those people saying that Bettman said anything about the Leafs. Like you didnt even read the article lmao.

This originally started when Duhatshek was asked about teams using LTIR as a loophole. He gave his thoughts, and said the NHL could close it whenever they wanted. Then Parson writes an article about what Duhatshek said (Chris Tanev's Iffy Contract Sparks Debate About NHL LTIR Rules - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More). Then, whoever the f*** hockeyfeed is writes an article with a clickbait ass title that is just regurgitating what Parsons wrote in his article.

Not once is a Bettman quote shown or mentioned. Yet somehow it has made it into a clickbait article.

Stay just reading clickbait headlines I guess.

I'll reiterate once again. If someone is writing an article and references something, and they do not include a link/source to that reference, then its a joke of an article/author.

Notice how Parson actually provides where Duhatshek quote came from? Thats how a proper article is writen.
 

ToDavid

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I read 2-3 reporters, Parsons, Duhatshek and the hockey writers.
It makes sense though, no-one thinks Tanev is playing until 40

If you actually read what those reporters wrote, none of them said anything about Bettman scruitinizing Tanev's contract.

Here's Parsons' article, for example, which is what that hockeyfeed nonsense is based on.
 

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No need to even read it, At the time of the trade the NHL either allows the trade to go through or they do not.

This after the fact nonsense is just click bait.
Not true. They signed off on the Luongo contract, then retroactively penalized Vancouver for it despite saying it was fine at the time. Would not shock me at all for them to go after the more blatant circumvention like this deal.
 

Commander Clueless

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Did we not just recently watch Pittsburgh sign Malkin until 40 and Letang to 41?

Please tell me this is an annoying "it's summer and we had nothing to talk about" story.

Yeah it's too much term.


I’d be perfectly happy to see the LTIR loopholes closed up, but (assuming this article is believable) it is hilarious that it wasn’t Tampa’s or Vegas’s exploitation of LTIR on their way to Stanley Cup victories that finally got the league’s attention, but Chris Tanev’s deal with the Leafs.

The Leafs are the most annoying team in the league. And I say that as a Leafs fan.
 

mouser

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Not true. They signed off on the Luongo contract, then retroactively penalized Vancouver for it despite saying it was fine at the time. Would not shock me at all for them to go after the more blatant circumvention like this deal.

One of those myths that never dies. The NHL never said the Luongo contract was fine. To the contrary it was one of the contracts the league had high on its list alongside Hossa and some others as obvious cap circumvention attempts.

The only reason the NHL didn’t go after Vancouver is because the PA cut a deal after losing the Kovalchuk/NJ circumvention grievance. The PA agreed to immediate new contract structure changes and additional limits in the next CBA, including the Cap Recapture rule. In return the NHL allowed the other existing circumvention contracts such as Luongo to run their course rather than pursuing penalties similar to those issued to New Jersey for Kovalchuk.
 

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