Confirmed with Link: [TOR/COL] F Denis Malgin for F Dryden Hunt

[Dekes For Days]

The original sin was the Dubas making an unforced error in evaluating and trading Mason Marchment for someone with low impact like Denis Malgin. Everything after that point is just 4th line level stuff and not a big deal.

There was no "original sin". From Marchment to Malgin to Hunt, it's all been low-impact 4th line level stuff and not a big deal.

 

[kb]

Yeah right Dekes. Fans labeling Dryden Hunt as a player for the boomers although acquired by Dubas by his own free will for his own design.

So one poster blankets all because you personally got offended.

Good to know your thought process. You whined for far longer about the boomer comment than anyone truly cared about the actual trade itself.

 

[Pebble live]

There was no "original sin". From Marchment to Malgin to Hunt, it's all been low-impact 4th line level stuff and not a big deal.

Not sure how you can possibly come to this conclusion. Marchment is everything this team needs in a top 6 forward right now. The leafs turned that asset into a 4th line forward...Not great asset management

You win some, you lose some, but again when the team is sorely in need of a player like Marchment it's going to stand out.

 

[crump]

When games get heavier, when you need a shift to change momentum with a hard forecheck or finishing a heavy check, this guy will at east provide some of that. It would be nice if he regains some scoring touch he left at lower levels.

 

[Stephen]

There was no "original sin". From Marchment to Malgin to Hunt, it's all been low-impact 4th line level stuff and not a big deal.

There's the spin I was looking for...

1) Hunt for Malgin is a marginal trade which may fit our needs better going forward. It's uncontroversial with a some modest upside and is fine.

2) Malgin for Marchment was a massive L for the Leafs despite a lot of post rationalization. It's been dissected to death and has nothing to do with Hunt.

3) If we ever traded Kerfoot, it would have nothing to do with Kadri either. There's no continuation.

 

[Stephen]

So one poster blankets all because you personally got offended.

Good to know your thought process. You whined for far longer about the boomer comment than anyone truly cared about the actual trade itself.

I don't like the Tweet.

It's more interesting to talk about than the actual trade because it's 2x 4th liners.

I'm fine with the trade.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Not sure how you can possibly come to this conclusion. Marchment is everything this team needs in a top 6 forward right now. The leafs turned that asset into a 4th line forward...Not great asset management

You win some, you lose some, but again when the team is sorely in need of a player like Marchment it's going to stand out.

Perfectly said!
GLG

 

[BertCorbeau]

Yeah but Hunt's not 6'9

 

[Dekes For Days]

The leafs turned that asset into a 4th line forward...Not great asset management.

The asset the Leafs had was a mediocre 25-year old AHLer who couldn't even earn a 4th line role. They turned that into a fringe NHLer with longer team control. That's not bad asset management.

There's the spin I was looking for...
1) Hunt for Malgin is a marginal trade which may fit our needs better going forward. It's uncontroversial with a some modest upside and is fine.
2) Malgin for Marchment was a massive L for the Leafs despite a lot of post rationalization. It's been dissected to death and has nothing to do with Hunt.
3) If we ever traded Kerfoot, it would have nothing to do with Kadri either. There's no continuation.

The only "spin" here is from you. Marchment for Malgin and Malgin for Hunt were both inconsequential trades involving two fringe-level depth players. Kerfoot has nothing to do with anything.

 

[hotpaws]

i guess trading him for a guy who was claimed off waivers earlier in the year looks better than just waiving him

 

[Stephen]

The asset the Leafs had was a mediocre 25-year old AHLer who couldn't even earn a 4th line role. They turned that into a fringe NHLer with longer team control. That's not bad asset management.

The only "spin" here is from you. Marchment for Malgin and Malgin for Hunt were both inconsequential trades involving two fringe-level depth players. Kerfoot has nothing to do with anything.

So how would you rate Raycroft for Rask? A big win for Toronto because we got an NHLer for a non NHLer? Come on man, there's hindsight involved.

Again, none of that baggage is connected to Hunt. There's no continuation.

 

[saffronleaf]

seems like a transaction not worth caring about, so I'm not going to

 

[Tarmore]

There's the spin I was looking for...

2) Malgin for Marchment was a massive L for the Leafs despite a lot of post rationalization. It's been dissected to death and has nothing to do with Hunt.

Marchment was getting traded or waved by the Leafs at that point the Leafs were not willing to give him NHL ice and he didn't deserve it either. As a result Marchment would never have become the player he became in Florida.

You would see this if you watched the games objectively and didn't get into flame wars with other posters.... over silly things.

 

[Dekes For Days]

So how would you rate Raycroft for Rask? A big win for Toronto because we got an NHLer for a non NHLer? Come on man, there's hindsight involved.

Rask for Raycroft was bad, because we traded a 19-year old top-tier goalie prospect that we had recently drafted in the 1st round for an obviously bad goalie coming off a horrible year.
That's absolutely nothing like Marchment for Malgin in any way.
Even in hindsight, Marchment didn't do anything before hitting UFA status that surpassed what Malgin brought.

 

[djdev]

I don't think it pisses off anyone.

ye i was just being tongue in cheek my friend lol

 

[Stephen]

Marchment was getting traded or waved by the Leafs at that point the Leafs were not willing to give him NHL ice and he didn't deserve it either. As a result Marchment would never have become the player he became in Florida.

You would see this if you watched the games objectively and didn't get into flame wars with other posters.... over silly things.

I watched Marchment on the Leafs and he wasn't good in the 18 minutes or so of NHL time that he played. Seem to remember his only skill was falling down.

That doesn't mean the Leafs staff didn't make a massive error in being able to assess or manage that prospect. That's what they're paid to do. They also traded him well into the season so there was so waiver pressure if they didn't call him up if we're trying to keep facts in order. Some fans can't admit to this error.

That bit of history has nothing to do with this trade today. It was unlikely Malgin was going to hit some developmental curve and justify the original trade. So who cares? Malgin was also just a marginal, whatever piece who was never a good fit and didn't do much in either tenure here. Which makes his trade for Dryden Hunt today a completely neutral, nothing burger. Maybe Hunt will be a better fit.

 

[Stephen]

Rask for Raycroft was bad, because we traded a 19-year old top-tier goalie prospect that we had recently drafted in the 1st round for an obviously bad goalie coming off a horrible year.
That's absolutely nothing like Marchment for Malgin in any way.
Even in hindsight, Marchment didn't do anything before hitting UFA status that surpassed what Malgin brought.

Rask was not an NHLer at the time of trade. So if you're going to omit everything you learned after Dubas trade, good or bad, then the same fallacy would apply.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Dude's got two last names.

That's all I got.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

honestly i think its a nothing trade, but i will like it more/less depending on who it pisses off here

Leaf fans appreciate blue collar types more than most fanbases. If Hunt is able to come in and lay a couple of guys out while not getting hemmed in too much he'll be much more appreciated than Malgin.

Let's not forget, 2nd line LW is still a black hole that needs addressing

 

[saffronleaf]

Cliff notes for those of us who aren't masochistic enough to enjoy kyper and bourne, much less Gord stellick?

sportsnet has awful shows. there's another one with jd bunkis (ew can't stand him) and sam mckee or something (also a tool).

 

[Dekes For Days]

Rask was not an NHLer at the time of trade. So if you're going to omit everything you learned after Dubas trade, good or bad, then the same fallacy would apply.

Rask was not an NHLer at the time of the trade (obviously, since 19 year old goalies don't make the NHL), but unlike Marchment, he was expected to become one. Unlike Marchment, he had considerable value. He was a really young, top-tier prospect that we had recently spent a 1st round pick asset on, not a free wallet mid-20s mediocre AHLer with next to no chance of becoming anything meaningful, much less before he left to UFA. The Rask trade was horrible at the time, and these trades are nothing alike.

 

[Judas Tavares]

Leafs plays the Avs on new year's eve.

Anyone know a good betting app that will allow me to bet Malgin scores a goal on December 31st?

I'd love to see the odds and probably drop at least $50 depending on the odds

After missing on out betting on Vesey, on Saturday I tried to put money on NAK scoring but he wasn't listed. Saved some money cause of that. Didn't save some money on Ovi not scoring though. Figured a big milestone vs. Leafs is usually a layup, like former players or hometown boys.

 

[Pebble live]

The asset the Leafs had was a mediocre 25-year old AHLer who couldn't even earn a 4th line role. They turned that into a fringe NHLer with longer team control. That's not bad asset management.

The only "spin" here is from you. Marchment for Malgin and Malgin for Hunt were both inconsequential trades involving two fringe-level depth players. Kerfoot has nothing to do with anything.

lol k you have to be a troll.

 

[Leaf Fans]

ye i was just being tongue in cheek my friend lol

LOL. Sorry, it is just you never can be sure on this board.

 

[Advanced stats]

People have to learn to keep the Malgin-Marchant and the Malgin-hunt deals separate