Top prospect pool's by Byron Bader

[KevSkillz4]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809275023636722010

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[Superlative Soup]

Swap Sharks and Blackhawks

Edit: Nvm apparently Bedard still counts for some reason lol

 

[I am Bettman]

How are the Bruins 32nd? Even if you count Lohrei and Poitras as graduated Lysell and Letourneau still exist. Also have some players who project as solid depth pieces like Riley Duran, Chris Pelosi, and Beckett Hendrickson. Also guys like Jackson Edward, Jellvik, and Gasseau. Not sure how that’s worse than teams like Edmonton, Florida, and TBL.

 

[wetcoast]

How are the Bruins 32nd? Even if you count Lohrei and Poitras as graduated Lysell and Letourneau still exist. Also have some players who project as solid depth pieces like Riley Duran, Chris Pelosi, and Beckett Hendrickson. Also guys like Jackson Edward, Jellvik, and Gasseau. Not sure how that’s worse than teams like Edmonton, Florida, and TBL.

The bottom ten teams are all really bad in terms of prospect pipelines would you sleep better if he ranked the Bruins 29th?

 

[I am Bettman]

The bottom ten teams are all really bad in terms of prospect pipelines would you sleep better if he ranked the Bruins 29th?

Considering Edmonton is 25 I would sleep better if the Bruins were somewhere closer to there. Bruins prospect pool is not as bad as it was a few years ago, but it seems their reputation of the worst prospect pool has stuck with some of these writers to this day. Bruins have had the worst prospect pool in the league for probably 5 years at least according to these lists despite finding more nhl talent than many other teams like Poitras, Lohrei, Beecher, and others.

 

[ViD]

How is Montreal above Columbus ?

 

[Bond]

Considering Edmonton is 25 I would sleep better if the Bruins were somewhere closer to there. Bruins prospect pool is not as bad as it was a few years ago, but it seems their reputation of the worst prospect pool has stuck with some of these writers to this day. Bruins have had the worst prospect pool in the league for probably 5 years at least according to these lists despite finding more nhl talent than many other teams like Poitras, Lohrei, Beecher, and others.

He probably didn’t like their latest draft

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Finally a W for anaheim

 

[I am Bettman]

He probably didn’t like their latest draft

Letourneau may have been ranked a bit lower than 25, but we all know teams draft guys like that way higher than they are ranked. He probably would not have been there after 30ish. He had a sick Development Camp and stood out among many NCAA and top USHL players not because of his size but because of his skill. He is raw still, but the ceiling is crazy. The other picks they made seem very solid for 4th round+. I’m not sure what there is to not like.

 

[Soundgarden]

Hard to believe Nashvilles 16th, and 22nd goalie ranked with Askarov?

 

[Mersss]

How is Montreal above Columbus ?

Cause their pool is better and deeper...

 

[Captain Mountain]

How is Montreal above Columbus ?

Depth mostly. His model says Columbus' top 5 (Fantilli, Lindstrom, Jiricek, Mateychuk and Brindley) ranks slightly ahead of Montreal's (Demidov, Hutson, Reinbacher, Hage and Roy), but Montreal has a lot more depth. That's not really a hot take even if you're ignoring NHLe models.

 

[Canadienna]

I was wondering why CHI had the highest star ranking and then I noticed he included Bedard.

 

[Fantomas]

How is Montreal above Columbus ?

Byron's model goes brrrr

 

[stats1]

Kind of surprised the Leafs are 20th considering how many picks they’ve traded over the past 4 years

 

[Xirik]

Byron's model goes brrrr

any shutdown defenseman or a player that isn't a big point guy like L. Hughes and Hutson don't exist in his model. Silayev has a 47% chance of making the NHL based off his models.

Also a player like Barkov would be way down the list compared to higher point producing Centers even though he's a more complete player.

 

[newsportsfan123]

I like Byron’s model because I think it does a really good job at predicting NHLers. However, players who play a more defensive game or shutdown defenseman will never grade well in this model.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

any shutdown defenseman or a player that isn't a big point guy like L. Hughes and Hutson don't exist in his model. Silayev has a 47% chance of making the NHL based off his models.

Also a player like Barkov would be way down the list compared to higher point producing Centers even though he's a more complete player.

That's whack.

Unless Silayev's progression falls off a cliff a player like him pretty much has a 99% rate of making the NHL.

The NHL loves 6'7 dmen. He can already do a first pass, so he's going to play in the big league one day.

 

[Xirik]

That's whack.

Unless Silayev's progression falls off a cliff a player like him pretty much has a 99% rate of making the NHL.

The NHL loves 6'7 dmen. He can already do a first pass, so he's going to play in the big league one day.

I was incorrect its 51%. It was the player he compared to which is Erik Gudbranson who was 47%


comparatively the player that the Devils were going to draft before Silayev fell was Helenius.

Devils f***ed up.

 

[Captain Mountain]

any shutdown defenseman or a player that isn't a big point guy like L. Hughes and Hutson don't exist in his model. Silayev has a 47% chance of making the NHL based off his models.

Also a player like Barkov would be way down the list compared to higher point producing Centers even though he's a more complete player.

Barkov graded incredibly high in most NHLe models, he was almost p/gp in a pro league in his draft year.

 

[Xirik]

Barkov graded incredibly high in most NHLe models, he was almost p/gp in a pro league in his draft year.

I meant Currently, not in there draft year.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I meant Currently, not in there draft year.

Aren't we talking about grading prospect though?

And who are you comparing Barkov to, his offense is at minimum borderline elite.

if you want to criticize the model, its awful at grading prospects with great tools but lack of productions. Brady Tkachuk and even Slafkovsky are ahead of where his model is projected.

 

[BB88]

Depth mostly. His model says Columbus' top 5 (Fantilli, Lindstrom, Jiricek, Mateychuk and Brindley) ranks slightly ahead of Montreal's (Demidov, Hutson, Reinbacher, Hage and Roy), but Montreal has a lot more depth. That's not really a hot take even if you're ignoring NHLe models.

Why slightly?

Columbus has 2 franchise C prospects in their system

+ a franchise D-prospect and another high end D-prospect

 

[Captain Mountain]

Why slightly?

Columbus has 2 franchise C prospects in their system

+ a franchise Dman and another higher Dprospect

Because Lindstrom doesn't grade that highly on the model (like a lot of big forwards who weren't that productive pre-draft). And if we're being that loose with defining prospects, Montreal has a franchise winger, two franchise D-men and two high forward prospects.

 

[Turin]

So does he not include goalies? Not sure how Blomqvist is not rated top 5 for Pittsburgh.