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Fourth line with Butch and (somehow) Glass.
Recalled/Assigned: Tony DeAngelo back to Wolfpack
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The issue to me is less about the specific circumstances and more about how the coaching staff seems to have failed to figure out how to use the defensive pieces they were given and are scrambling now to save a season they're in danger of losing. Arguably the same issue with the forwards...they have thus far failed to get what they need to out of this roster, for whatever reason, and that is ultimately concerning.
He needs to play, and clearly the coach isn't going to utilize him properly. Curious to see what this means for all the D in Hartford.
Ghost of jas
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Ghost of jas
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Exactly. Lines and players that have shown chemistry in the past get broken up on a whim, while other lines are jammed together with no semblance of logic. There is no rhyme or reason to anything. Everything reeks of desperation.
E-Train
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Machinehead
The Olli react should add points!
Machinehead
The Olli react should add points!
Off Sides
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What are the practicing, How to send three guys to cover one in the defensive corner, and still lose the puck battle?
Ghost of jas
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Which was always going to be the scary part of signing Desharnais.
Beer League Sniper
Homeless Man's Rick Nash
Duchene isn't a top-end talent. The guy scores at the rate of a low-end 1C.
I know you want to get help around Hank, but what's best for this team long-term in to sell off a couple pieces and try to do a quick 1-2 season rebuild/retool. Duchene just pulls us deeper down the rabbit hole of stripping the farm bare to remain a peripherally relevant playoff team.
We need to put down the shovel and stop digging at this point.
Ultimately, and again this isn't specifically about DeAngelo, I'm surprised and kind of sad at how quickly my excitement for this season has just been completely shot and I'm basically just frustrated with little interest in watching this team play. I'm 100% sure if the Rangers had Girardi on one leg still hopping around they'd bench Shattenkirk in order to get Girardi into the lineup. Again, it feels a whole lot like the coaches just don't know how to use this defense and are trying to fall back on using the players they're most familiar with (Holden, Staal, McDonagh). Up front...who knows what's going on? But it never feels like this team is moving in the right direction as lines are shuffled a lot and having a guy like Buchnevich shuffled off to the 4th line to play spot duty and the PP is rough. Meanwhile I get to watch DD be relied upon for a scoring role and be ineffective 90% of the time and Jimmy Vesey run around with the puck and no clue what to do with it offensively.
There's nothing fun about this team, just a lot of bumbling and the coaches flailing around looking for answers and repeatedly saying "everyone int he locker room has to be better and they know it" which is what coaches start saying when they see their job being on the line
There's nothing fun about this team, just a lot of bumbling and the coaches flailing around looking for answers and repeatedly saying "everyone int he locker room has to be better and they know it" which is what coaches start saying when they see their job being on the line
Glen Sathers Cigar
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failure
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Is it ultimately AV's fault though? Is he the one assigning guys to the wolfpack? I would think that Gorton has the final say.
I'm in the "don't freak out" camp.
Forget AV, Holden, Staal, ect. To me it's irrelevant. Sending ADA is the smart LONG term move.
We weren't expected to be a bottom feeder. You don't want to add pressure on a promising young Dman who just turned 22 to turn this around. If the ship is sinking, keep him away and let him develop his game w/ big minutes away from the unforgiving burn of the spotlight. If the ship continues down this path, we'll sell some pieces and bring him back up later in the year when the team has accepted it's fate and there's less pressure (and probably a new coach).
Keeping him up is an unnecessary risk that can lead to stunting a young player's development. The kid seems to have all the tools. Let him build his toolbox in a suitable environment and we'll go from there.
Forget AV, Holden, Staal, ect. To me it's irrelevant. Sending ADA is the smart LONG term move.
We weren't expected to be a bottom feeder. You don't want to add pressure on a promising young Dman who just turned 22 to turn this around. If the ship is sinking, keep him away and let him develop his game w/ big minutes away from the unforgiving burn of the spotlight. If the ship continues down this path, we'll sell some pieces and bring him back up later in the year when the team has accepted it's fate and there's less pressure (and probably a new coach).
Keeping him up is an unnecessary risk that can lead to stunting a young player's development. The kid seems to have all the tools. Let him build his toolbox in a suitable environment and we'll go from there.
In my eyes, both ADA and Lettieri earned roster spots on this team and should be getting time in the NHL until proven otherwise. Based on performance, Smith and Holden should be sent down before ADA. AV has outlived his usefulness here.
LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
People want to believe Duchene is a 30 goal, 75 point center that he's shown flashes of being, but I just don't think he's that guy.
I think he's a very likeable 20-25 goal, 60 point center. That's not a bad place to be, but it's not worth the assets that Colorado has requested, and likely is still requesting. Factor in the contract situation and the current state of the team, and I just don't see a fit.
This team isn't far off from being able to re-group over the long haul, but the cost of a move for Duchene is not compatible with that possibility.
SnowblindNYR
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Championship! All that was standing in the way of our success was a talented young D-man being sent to Hartford.
broadwayblue
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Vinny DeAngelo
Jimmy Easy to defend
Wonder how Pittsburgh fired their coach then made a couple call ups and dominated?? this is how. A complete goof of a coach playing vets over better young guys...
eco's bones
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The team can still turn it around but I have to say I wondered just how good it was going to be. I think a lot of people thought the forwards were fine apart from maybe some center depth--the D was going to be so much better after chucking Girardi and Klein and replacing them with young puck moving D and that Henrik was going to rebound from a pretty mediocre 16-17 season and none of those things so far have gone positively and to the extent that the coaching staff are coming off as completely confused and playing musical chairs with the lines and the pairings.
The positives really are that we have a lot more younger and talented players but for the most part they need more time--they're not ready to be tossed in at the deep end. And so...this could be a bite the bullet season. The thing that we really is concerning me is Lundqvist--he's still making spectacular saves but he's letting in so many weak ones and at bad times. I've also never seen McDonagh play so poorly some of which might be from trying to do too much.
haveandare
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Please god no.
He’s a good but unspectacular player that his GM wants an elite players return for.
