Confirmed with Link: Tomas Hertl 17% retained, 2025 3rd, 2027 3rd to Vegas for C David Edstrom, 2025 1st

[STL Shark]

I do think the EK miracle season was a gift that afforded us the opportunity to not have to go scorched earth in terms of dealing with contracts, and with Logan potentially being done there really was no dire reason to trade Hertl unless either he asked to be out or Grier just wanted to wipe out every contract from the books.

He was going to ask out this summer so what’s your point other than going on 6 hours now of whining? Rather keep a disgruntled player for 6 more years of sucking?

 

[STL Shark]

For goodness sake, will a damn mod take this off of live? It’s utterly ridiculous and wholly unnecessary that I can barely type without this off brand server auto refreshing 6 hours after the trade. It’s bad enough that 50% of the screen on mobile is spammed with ads.

 

[tahoesharksfan]

Hertl asked for it. Maybe not to Vegas, but a contender.

Is this the first time Grier has officially said "years away"?

 

[karltonian]

Hey shoutsout man, getting sober was the best thing, and the most difficult thing I have ever done, glad to see that you have done the same as well. It really all does start with wanting to get better as you said. You have to accept the fact that you are not in a place that you want to be, and make the best decisions you can, with a goal in mind (in both cases, getting better).

The real addict move for the state of our team would be to not accept the fact that we suck, and bandaid fixing the issues, instead of actually solving them. Hard decisions have to be made in both cases.

Comparing building a pro sports business to addiction is asinine.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Which great Swedish prospects? I’ll wait.


What are you on about?

I was replying to the beard talking about if Hertl asked for a trade or not. Thats it. No more, no less.

I'm not talking to you specifically, my bad. I just meant Grier is missing the point.

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

Is this the first time Grier has officially said "years away"?

Maybe in direct words, but he’s certainly implied it with words and actions. Actions being trading Burns, Karlsson, Timo, Hertl.

After the Timo trade for instance
“So, to pay him the money he’s looking for and wanted, it just didn’t seem to line up with where we are headed as a franchise and where we’re at. We don’t want to just keep spinning our wheels here, we’re going to try and move this thing forward.”

 

[JTB1974]

This is not the NFL. 3rd rounders are meaningless in the NHL. I only care about 1st RD picks.

 

[rekrul]

Echo what was said here, GMMG helping Vegas win another cup in completely tone def to the fan base. if you can't get .50/dollar value then trade out of the damn division. It would be welcome if the media gave some objective analysis and held Sharks Mgmt accountable. I don;t want to see quotes in 2028 explaining that we had to trade Eklund because he wanted to win. Next season is another washout- fine enjoy seeing other lackluster prospects in front of 12k fans. But if they are not competing for a playoff spot 25-26 the ownership should clean out everyone. Thats what should be a incredibly low bar to clear. To teardown and just hope to get the #1 overall pick is lazy.

 

[TheBeard]

Echo what was said here, GMMG helping Vegas win another cup in completely tone def to the fan base. if you can't get .50/dollar value then trade out of the damn division. It would be welcome if the media gave some objective analysis and held Sharks Mgmt accountable. I don;t want to see quotes in 2028 explaining that we had to trade Eklund because he wanted to win. Next season is another washout- fine enjoy seeing other lackluster prospects in front of 12k fans. But if they are not competing for a playoff spot 25-26 the ownership should clean out everyone. Thats what should be an incredibly low bar to clear. To teardown and just hope to get the #1 overall pick is lazy.

12k fans? What is it, dollar beer night?

 

[coooldude]

Echo what was said here, GMMG helping Vegas win another cup in completely tone def to the fan base. if you can't get .50/dollar value then trade out of the damn division. It would be welcome if the media gave some objective analysis and held Sharks Mgmt accountable. I don;t want to see quotes in 2028 explaining that we had to trade Eklund because he wanted to win. Next season is another washout- fine enjoy seeing other lackluster prospects in front of 12k fans. But if they are not competing for a playoff spot 25-26 the ownership should clean out everyone. Thats what should be a incredibly low bar to clear. To teardown and just hope to get the #1 overall pick is lazy.

Sorry man, I know it's tough, but rebuilds don't take 3 years, and we only really started ours with the Burns trade.

 

[Zarzh]

Echo what was said here, GMMG helping Vegas win another cup in completely tone def to the fan base. if you can't get .50/dollar value then trade out of the damn division. It would be welcome if the media gave some objective analysis and held Sharks Mgmt accountable. I don;t want to see quotes in 2028 explaining that we had to trade Eklund because he wanted to win. Next season is another washout- fine enjoy seeing other lackluster prospects in front of 12k fans. But if they are not competing for a playoff spot 25-26 the ownership should clean out everyone. Thats what should be a incredibly low bar to clear. To teardown and just hope to get the #1 overall pick is lazy.

The problem is there should be an idea to avoid being Buffalo or Ottawa, or even Detroit. Or even a team like Winnipeg, where they have 1 or 2 years of being a dark horse over 15 years.

It's easy to build a mid-team with a bunch of tweeners which can finish between 7-10. You need elite talent to win anything.

 

[rekrul]

Sorry man, I know it's tough, but rebuilds don't take 3 years, and we only really started ours with the Burns trade.

over/under Pts for next year 75?

 

[TheBeard]

My other worry is this kind of trade off will spark this rag tag group of unwanted into running off some kind of unheralded winning streak.

We’ve seen teams do it before after removing significant pieces.

 

[coooldude]

over/under Pts for next year 75?

Extremely under.

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Extremely under.

You mistyped over/under at 55 points

 

[DG93]

First reaction: F*** me sideways

But in reality, it's a very solid trade...Hertl would've probably pulled a late 1st and B prospect in 2022 at the TDL, so the Sharks paid two 3rd round picks for the retention (ie the consequence of Joe Will's stupidity).

But why did it have to be Vegas? Ugh. f*** Vegas.

 

[Alaskanice]

Over in the VGK forum, after they swipe Tomas Hertl to add to their stacked team, they have 24 posts. I don’t get that.

 

[weastern bias]

over/under Pts for next year 75?

lol

Extremely under.

yes

You mistyped over/under at 55 points

extremely under

Over in the VGK forum, after they swipe Tomas Hertl to add to their stacked team, they have 24 posts. I don’t get that.

They have no fans, fake team, fake fanbase, front runners, as soon as the winning stops so will their attendance

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Alaskanice]

Grier did the best he could for the team and Tomas. I admire that but it still stings. A lot.

 

[tiburon12]

QUITE the news to wake up to!

Sad to see Hertl go, but mentally I prepared for this two years ago when he should have been traded. And while him going to Vegas also blows, I'm of the mind where it doesn't matter where he goes or which teams win while the Sharks aren't competing. That said I was kinda hoping he was a big piece to dangle this summer to the Rangers.....

I like the return and the idea of getting out of his contract, even with retention. Thinking with my business hat on, this was a hard but necessary move

 

[Munnyro]

Got it. I’m curious why we need two Bystedts but I guess if Bystedt plays wing, we can have a giant 3rd line that can take over games. That’d be nice.

We'd be lucky to get 2 3Cs out of them. They may not be long shots but definitely not a for sure thing.

 

[Mafoofoo]

Sorry man, I know it's tough, but rebuilds don't take 3 years, and we only really started ours with the Burns trade.

Did any previous successful rebuilds (Tampa, Chicago, LA) ever involve sending fan favorites to direct division rivals to help them win championships?

Thats the worst part of the trade. If Hertl was traded to Florida for example i dont think there would be as much anger.

 

[hohosaregood]

Did any previous successful rebuilds (Tampa, Chicago, LA) ever involve sending fan favorites to direct division rivals to help them win championships?

Thats the worst part of the trade. If Hertl was traded to Florida for example i dont think there would be as much anger.

Martin St Louis?

 

[Munnyro]

I think Edstrom was labeled middle six center on a podcast I listened to.