Prospect Info: Tom Willander: 11th Overall 2023 Draft (Rogle BK J20) - Part 02

RobertKron

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Boeser's in his D+1 he was the best player on the best team in the NCAA, his D+2 was a bit weaker (and injury riddled iirc) but he still joined the Canucks and got 4 goals in 9 games at the end of the year. Lekkerimaki clearly isn't going to score 30 goals and have as good of a +3 as Boeser.

Boeser's +1 is far ahead of what Lekkerimaki has ever done.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the poster you're replying to believes Lekkerimaki will score 25+ this season.
 

RobertKron

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Sez the poster who would constantly get on me for saying the Canucks are on the verge of being a top team, and couldn't recognize that the Canucks had the talent to be a top team.

Isn't that your position, though? I'm pointing out to OP that you believe Lekkerimakki to be a player in the same ballpark as D+3 Boeser, and that your posts have been consistent with that position.

Also, like, that's the whole thing: The first howevermany years that you made that claim, the Canucks didn't have the talent to be a top team. They had the talent to be a bad team that featured some very talented players. That's not the same thing. At some point, when you keep saying the same thing for several years, while, in the meantime, the GM you vehemently supported at every turn is fired and the roster changes enormously, you don't really get to claim clairvoyance when they eventually do break out.

Like, at one time I believe your position was that this team would imminently be put over the top by the fruits of Benning’s strong later-round drafting. I don’t know that you get to say that you nailed it.
 
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bandwagonesque

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I literally said he's not a nothing prospect. Might want to learn to read before going off at someone.
If there are any kids reading -- the last few pages of this thread is an example of why being of at least average literacy is important for day-to-day life as an adult.
 
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Ernie

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We can make any bet about our avatars you want, I couldn't care less if mine was Goatse or 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB

Haha at the very least we could agree that they should be hockey related. How do we decide if the Canucks are contending? If they are on pace for 100 points at the deadline? Or something else?
 

Ernie

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Boeser's in his D+1 he was the best player on the best team in the NCAA, his D+2 was a bit weaker (and injury riddled iirc) but he still joined the Canucks and got 4 goals in 9 games at the end of the year. Lekkerimaki clearly isn't going to score 30 goals and have as good of a +3 as Boeser.

Boeser's +1 is far ahead of what Lekkerimaki has ever done.

Lekk's d+1 season was a complete write-off, he was trending fast to bust territory. He came back in a big way last season though, and seemed to be back on track.

Not really fair to compare him to Boeser making the team right away, if the Canucks were a 69 point team right now Lekk would have made it too.
 
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arttk

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Lekk's d+1 season was a complete write-off, he was trending fast to bust territory. He came back in a big way last season though, and seemed to be back on track.

Not really fair to compare him to Bowser making the team right away, if the Canucks were a 69 point team right now Lekk would have made it too.
if we plot a line to illustrate the trajectory a prospect needs to be on to be successful, Lekk's D+1 missed that line by like a freaking mile but in his D+2, he probably met the line if not exceeded it. I think there were folks who really didn't think injuries/illness was a legit reason for his struggles in D+1 but I guess considering how he did last season, it seems pretty justified but regardless, most prospects struggle to bounce back from a bad developmental year so the fact he could bounce back and exceed expectations says a lot about Lekk as a prospect.
 

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If there are any kids reading -- the last few pages of this thread is an example of why being of at least average literacy is important for day-to-day life as an adult.
Half the posts or more on this subforum result from posters unintentionally, or sometimes intentionally, misreading and misconstruing the initial post they are responding to.
 

sandwichbird2023

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Willander since world U 18's:

+47 in 57 games (college +international)

Now plus minus isn't the greatest stat but you're doing something right when it's that high. I think a lot of the nuances in his game help him always play a positive role in goal prevention no matter what level he is playing.

He can skate effortlessly, munch minutes at even strength/pk, shut down other teams players, and not take many penalties. I don't know what more people want from him but really the offense should be considered an added bonus.
That kind of +/- is almost Forsling-like. Speaking of, would Forsling be a decent comparable to Willander? Both seems to be excellent defender that skates well and can move the puck, but not necessarily somebody that you look to run PP1 or put up lots of points.

It would be amazing if Willander can become something resembling a RH Forsling!
 

VanJack

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Still early, but Wilander looks to be one of the most dominant d-men in college hockey this season. Just what you'd expect from a high draft pick coming out of his college freshman year.

Without a doubt this will be his final year of college hockey; and he'll also be a mainstay on Sweden's World Jr. team.

Definitely the Canucks most exciting d-prospect since the drafting of Quinn Hughes.
 
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His calling card is obviously his elite skating ability, one of the best skating defensemen you will see especially for a player who is not undersized. Explosive and agile. This separates him from even some of the "good" skating prospects/players.

Improvements from last year are that he's using that skating more to his advantage - walking the line, skating down the wall and doing a quick cutback like Hughes often does; also - he's added the one-timer to his repertoire, such that he's more of a shooting threat. These were honestly the 2 biggest things I wanted to see out of him. Remains excellent on breakout passes - never agreed with the internet scouts that he ever struggled with this. Trending towards being NHL ready at the end of the year IMO.

I wouldn't say he's a "dominant" player, and I'd like see him be even more confident and assertive offensively and up his intensity even more, but he's consistently a positive force for his team.
 
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