Prospect Info: Tom Willander: 11th Overall 2023 Draft (Rogle BK J20) - Part 02

credulous

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I have no idea why you put a Defenceman in cold in Mick Frechette against one of the best teams in the league

He’s been franking slaughtered and has been on for 4 goals

Celebrini was playing well, start frichette against a weak team

celebrini is in the lineup too. it's jack page sitting
 

ManVanFan

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Jackson Kunz... Canucks product still, 2nd goal of the night. 6-0.

6-1 +1 for Willander (he was awarded 2nd asst on the goal)

6-2

7-2

Fun fact. Jackson Kunz was a player I wanted Van to draft. He's been a huge disappointment haha. Great hands/fantastic goal scorer but man his skating doesn't look like it has improved at all. Was hoping it would improve like Gadjovich.
 
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Total absentee ownership is a disaster.
Leadership comes from the top and trickles down. look at some of the most successful teams now or ever.

I don't think that's necessarily the case but it does depends on what you mean by "total absentee ownership." Like the Rangers and Knicks have the same owner (who only cares about the Knicks) and the Rangers are considered to be the better run franchise.

At the end of the day the key is hiring the right guy to run the Hockey Operations department. But how do you get there? Do you hire an advisor to help you interview and hire someone? Do you simply approach a guy you like and give him the job? Those appear to be the two most common methods.

With that said, I think an owner who is willing to do what is asked of him is an advantage. Like if you're trying to recruit a player, having a personable owner there can help with the process.
 
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I don't think that's necessarily the case but it does depends on what you mean by "total absentee ownership." Like the Rangers and Knicks have the same owner (who only cares about the Knicks) and the Rangers are considered to be the better run franchise.

At the end of the day the key is hiring the right guy to run the Hockey Operations department. But how do you get there? Do you hire an advisor to help you interview and hire someone? Do you simply approach a guy you like and give him the job? Those appear to be the two most common methods.

With that said, I think an owner who is willing to do what is asked of him is an advantage. Like if you're trying to recruit a player, having a personable owner there can help with the process.
On the Rangers, they are owned by Madison Square Gardens so keeping the arena filled in a requirement of the hockey teams management especially if the Knicks suck.

Running a team is more about connections than putting a puzzle together. Coaching is harder actually.

But ya, it is an old boys network and an active and involved owner makes a huge difference.
 

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he scored out of spite because he knew the canucks were wearing the loathed black skate tonight.'

anyways, Point Per a Game so far. That's what you need to see.
nah, i dont really care if he isnt PPG

we dont need him to produce in VAN, we just need him to be Tanev like
 

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nah, i dont really care if he isnt PPG

we dont need him to produce in VAN, we just need him to be Tanev like
defensemen points at junior or college levels are just often just an indication that they'll translate with good NHL puck handling.

Tanev was a statistical freak and outlier with a non traditional path to NHL success. Willander is also nothing like Tanev.
 

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I love the skate jerseys both in terms of how they look and what they represent. I also love the stick-in-rink colour scheme and jerseys. I don't love either logo, but they're OK.

I HATE the orca and what represents and I also hate the 97-06 (?) WCE-era colour scheme.
You mean you don’t love silver, black, blue, white, maroon?!?! LOL- worst colour “combination”. How did they even come up with it.
 
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On the Rangers, they are owned by Madison Square Gardens so keeping the arena filled in a requirement of the hockey teams management especially if the Knicks suck.
What does this have to do with what we're discussing?

Running a team is more about connections than putting a puzzle together. Coaching is harder actually.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Certainly having connections help but how do connections lead to good decisions?

But ya, it is an old boys network and an active and involved owner makes a huge difference.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying an owner who is willing to do what he is asked (by hockey operations management) can be an advantage. I don't agree that an active owner who meddles is necessarily a good thing.
 
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Brock Boeser Laser Show

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Willander since world U 18's:

+47 in 57 games (college +international)

Now plus minus isn't the greatest stat but you're doing something right when it's that high. I think a lot of the nuances in his game help him always play a positive role in goal prevention no matter what level he is playing.

He can skate effortlessly, munch minutes at even strength/pk, shut down other teams players, and not take many penalties. I don't know what more people want from him but really the offense should be considered an added bonus.
 

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Willander since world U 18's:

+47 in 57 games (college +international)

Now plus minus isn't the greatest stat but you're doing something right when it's that high. I think a lot of the nuances in his game help him always play a positive role in goal prevention no matter what level he is playing.

He can skate effortlessly, munch minutes at even strength/pk, shut down other teams players, and not take many penalties. I don't know what more people want from him but really the offense should be considered an added bonus.

Other teams just don't score when he's on the ice.
 

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