Prospect Info: Tom Willander: 11th Overall 2023 Draft (Rogle BK J20) - Part 02

[Raistlin]

The thing I hate about the orca is that it is a corporate logo representing orca bay and not really the Canucks and Orca bay sucks

but I think of the Sedins and the WCE instead of the corporation behind it. do I hate canucks because I think F.Aqualini mistreats his family and his staff? just a liiiittle??

So ... anybody know where a guy can go to find some info on that Willander kid? Anybody get to see any of his first couple games, how he did, or who he's playing with or anything? I see he has 3 points in 4 games. +4.

He is exactly what this franchise needs, we gave up drafting ASP (who is all world RN) for him, so from the get go management value the kid's skating/defensive instincts over offensive pizzazz. I hope he is our Brodin, nothing tells me he is trending otherwise. Needs to bulk up to fulfill his potential.

Skating Elite
Defense Top end
Shot Above average
Compete Above average
Puck moving Average

future #2 - #3

 

[ChilliBilly]

If he can play at a $3-4 million dollar level for most of his ELC, that goes a long way to mitigating the OEL cap hit.

there is no way this is relevant. He will be under an ELC contract that maxes out on bonuses way under the numbers you suggest for the entire OEL cap hit. I do agree that his cap hit will greatly help this team, I assume starting next season.

 

[beachcomber]

This guy is going to cure everybody of their Benson fixation in pretty short order.

 

[Jerry the great]

This guy is going to cure everybody of their Benson fixation in pretty short order.

Benson's start to the season providing that cure too.

 

[LemonSauceD]

30 Seconds in



"I thought their logo was cool so I got a little bit nostalgic seeing up on the stage."

Q: You're an Orco logo guy not a flying skate logo guy?

"Yeah. Yeah. *appears incredulous at the question* For sure. FOR SURE. 100%. 100%."

I forgot how great of an interviewer he is. He’s going to be a fan favourite.

if he takes a lower numbered jersey like #2, 3, 4 or 5 I’m buying his jersey the moment it comes out.

 

[VanJack]

The stick and logo jersey was pretty retro for the 1970's but can understand why it didn't really stand the test of time.

I know fans equate the flying skate logo with some of those exciting teams and Pat Quinn in the early 90's......but the Orca uniform has actually started to grow on me. Let's face it, there isn't another jersey like in all of pro sports.

The problem of course is that while everybody knows what an Orca killer whale is, nobody has a clue what a 'Canuck' actually is.

The Abbotsford Canucks have helped education a few people on the Johnny Canuck logo and how it fits with Canadian history. The problem is that there probably are a lot of people south of border who are convinced that a Canuck and an Orca are one and the same. Talk about slandering the lowly Orca.

It's too bad that the Orca Canucks logo was born out of the John McCaw and the Seattle cable company era, when the parent company was Orca Bay Sports and Entertainment. That turned off a lot of fans who just couldn't stomach the corporate connection.

I guess it's all moot. I don't see the whale jersey going anywhere any time soon.

 

[Quinning]

Benson's start to the season providing that cure too.

He looks like shit out there. Should be in the AHL. Might be another Nic Petan rather than an Alex DeBrincat.

I forgot how great of an interviewer he is. He’s going to be a fan favourite.

if he takes a lower numbered jersey like #2, 3, 4 or 5 I’m buying his jersey the moment it comes out.

Would love to see him rock KB's old #3.

 

[arttk]

but I think of the Sedins and the WCE instead of the corporation behind it. do I hate canucks because I think F.Aqualini mistreats his family and his staff? just a liiiittle??


He is exactly what this franchise needs, we gave up drafting ASP (who is all world RN) for him, so from the get go management value the kid's skating/defensive instincts over offensive pizzazz. I hope he is our Brodin, nothing tells me he is trending otherwise. Needs to bulk up to fulfill his potential.

Skating Elite
Defense Top end
Shot Above average
Compete Above average
Puck moving Average

future #2 - #3

Orca bay reminds me of McCaw and that era of not caring.

He looks like shit out there. Should be in the AHL. Might be another Nic Petan rather than an Alex DeBrincat.

That’s why you don’t rush kids

 

[F A N]

Orca bay reminds me of McCaw and that era of not caring.

To me there's 2 time versions of McCaw. There's the absentee owner who gave Brian Burke full autonomy and did open up his wallet as finances would allow. Then there's the McCaw who tightened up the purse strings, listened to his right hand man who knew nothing about hockey, and sold us out by selling the Grizzlies to owners who he knew wanted to move the team.

 

[arttk]

To me there's 2 time versions of McCaw. There's the absentee owner who gave Brian Burke full autonomy and did open up his wallet as finances would allow. Then there's the McCaw who tightened up the purse strings, listened to his right hand man who knew nothing about hockey, and sold us out by selling the Grizzlies to owners who he knew wanted to move the team.

yeah both version is shit

 

[F A N]

yeah both version is shit

I think there was a time when McCaw really wanted to win and was willing to spend his money in support of the team. But at the time he was losing a lot of money on both the Canucks and Grizzlies. But ya I would never forgive him for what he did with the Grizzlies.

Personally I think some people here expect too much of ownership. Like McCaw being an absentee owner was criticized. Aquilini's meddling was criticized.

We're obviously not a small market team but there are certainly teams (like Calgary) where finances does get in the way of doing what's best for the team. Whatever Aquilini's faults he's been willing to spend money on stuff like the Mind Room, renovations to the dressing room, firing coaches and GMs with years left on their contracts, buying out players, and giving out signing bonuses.

 

[arttk]

I think there was a time when McCaw really wanted to win and was willing to spend his money in support of the team. But at the time he was losing a lot of money on both the Canucks and Grizzlies. But ya I would never forgive him for what he did with the Grizzlies.

I f***ing hate the Grizz now, hell i hate it more that they are trying to use the Vancouver era graphics and jerseys. I wouldn't watch the NBA for years actually because of the Grizz.

Personally I think some people here expect too much of ownership. Like McCaw being an absentee owner was criticized. Aquilini's meddling was criticized.

We're obviously not a small market team but there are certainly teams (like Calgary) where finances does get in the way of doing what's best for the team. Whatever Aquilini's faults he's been willing to spend money on stuff like the Mind Room, renovations to the dressing room, firing coaches and GMs with years left on their contracts, buying out players, and giving out signing bonuses.

Agree, I am actually fine with meddling as long as it doesn't get us f***ing Benning. Like go play aorund with hiring shitty DJs, if that prevents us getting Benning, go have fun with that. Hell if he wants to DJ personally, go for it, just don't ever ever get us Benning level GMing.

 

[theguardianII]

Agree, I am actually fine with meddling as long as it doesn't get us f***ing Benning. Like go play aorund with hiring shitty DJs, if that prevents us getting Benning, go have fun with that. Hell if he wants to DJ personally, go for it, just don't ever ever get us Benning level GMing.

Total absentee ownership is a disaster.
Leadership comes from the top and trickles down. look at some of the most successful teams now or ever.
Most fans know the names of those team's owners.
The demand for success isn't in accepting the pink participation ribbon, it was used to be and I can't be sure if it is again, Blue, Red and White.
After the hyped media frenzy in Vancouver, which will never happen again because Rogers and the NHL control just about all the media, even some forums by hiring marketers and influencers to swarm these forums and search engines.

 

[stampedingviking]

i'm not so much a whale guy as a the-skate-looks-like-a-six-year-old-drew-it guy

Looks like someone threw a plate of spaghetti at the jersey.

 

[arttk]

Why do we not have a logo talk thread?

 

[strattonius]

Why do we not have a logo talk thread?

Hurr durr I like the orca hurr durr

Hurr durr you only like the skate because of nostalgia hurr durr

Hurr durr what about this logo with these colours hurr durr

Okay I covered the entire thread.

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Benson's start to the season providing that cure too.

Buffalo should of let the kid cook like the Canucks are doing with Willander.

 

[Vector]

Why do we not have a logo talk thread?

So start one?

 

[arttk]

So start one?

But we have this thread

 

[Raistlin]

Buffalo should of let the kid cook like the Canucks are doing with Willander.

Buffalo will buffalo, they have to earn the "worst managed N.american sports franchise" moniker.

 

[Vector]

But we have this thread

Good point!

 

[Wry n Ginger]

Hurr durr I like the orca hurr durr

Hurr durr you only like the skate because of nostalgia hurr durr

Hurr durr what about this logo with these colours hurr durr

Okay I covered the entire thread.

Actually I would really like to see a Hurr Durr thread and hope that the posters with shit takes a self-aware enough to just put their thoughts there. Maybe a mod could move a lot of posts there to give some of them a hint?

One thing I know is that I won't need to post there cuz my takes are all awesome.





Please let me know if you need any more supergreatastic ideas!!!

 

[ihaveyuidonttouchme]

4-0 UND in 10min 1st period.
ouch

 

[Breakers]

I have no idea why you put a Defenceman in cold in Mick Frechette against one of the best teams in the league

He’s been franking slaughtered and has been on for 4 goals

Celebrini was playing well, start frichette against a weak team

 

[ManVanFan]

4-0 UND in 10min 1st period.
ouch

I forgot about it till now. 5-0 half way through the 2nd.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849971977177518591

Sascha looking like a rookie.