Speculation: Toffoli Mega thread: Requesting out per Seravalli

viper0220

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LOL @ Tofoli returns any kind of first round pick.

A team's pick that will be from 25-32 range, would be happy to do it. And Toffoli still has 2-3 years of playing.

82 GP, 34 G, 39 A, +16, 4 GWG on a mediocre Flames team.

What would you value him at if not a 1st? Pretty decent stats in my opinion.

Even if he does not reach that, a team that is on the verge of being contenders would be happy to do it.
 
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A team's pick that will be from 25-32 range, would be happy to do it. And Toffoli still has 2-3 years of playing.



Even if he does not reach that, a team that is on the verge of being contenders would be happy to do it.
With one year remaining.

With this logic Connor Murphy should net a first and a second.

Neither scenario is going to happen. If somebody was stupid to offer a second Calgary pushes that thru in seconds.
 

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Toffoli is one of the most nothing 30G players in the league. Like he can score his 30 goals without you even noticing him whatsoever. He doesn't really do anything else of note. Just scores his goals and disappears back into the woodwork.


They'll probably get something alright for him in trade, even with this information out in public. On the strength of his reputation and goal totals. But somebody is going to get ripped off, not getting nearly the sort of impact player they think they're trading for.
 

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With one year remaining.

With this logic Connor Murphy should net a first and a second.

Neither scenario is going to happen. If somebody was stupid to offer a second Calgary pushes that thru in seconds.

I also said Toffoli has 2-3 years of playing life left. Connor f***ing Murphy has not had the career that Toffoli has had.

See the stats


 
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I also said Toffoli has 2-3 years of playing life left. Connor f***ing Murphy has not had the career that Toffoli has had.

See the stats


Murphys a top four defenseman on a dirt cheap contract with term. No GM is giving up a first round pick for one year of a guy and either losing him to FA or giving him market value.

Not hard to comprehend
 

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Seems like the Caps aren’t improving either position while also giving up the 8th and 40th.

No thanks.
Seems like the Caps aren’t improving either position while also giving up the 8th and 40th.

No thanks.
you do realize they free up over 4 million this year to also get a good free agent. Ovi not getting younger. They can use a million to sign Lucic to replace muscle
 

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but why are the draft picks even in this deal?

You could easily make an argument that wilson and toffoli are a wash, especially since they've been right around the same number of points each year for the past few years (outside of this year) plus washington gets the physical aspect already from wilson.

Kuznetsov has had more points than lindholm in their careers with 63 less games played
 

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Lol 4 million buys us what "quality free agent" that upgrades our roster to make a run at another cup? Terrible proposal, lock this.
 

StephenPeat

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Toffoli and Lindholm both want out. Toffoli is 31, signed for one more season and wants out. Good luck getting a premium (+) return on etiher. Even at their highest value this is an enormous overpay for Washington. No chance the Caps do this. The Caps aren’t going to trade Wilson at all and they’re not going to trade 8th Overall for aging vets.

Also love how Kuznetsov is “cap dump and disgruntled” but Lindholm and Toffoli…….aren’t. Curious how that shakes out ain’t it?
 
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That's terrible for Washington. Top 10 picks don't get moved for guys 1 year from UFA. Maybe something around Kuz + futures could work for Lindholm.
 

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Pretty terrible for the Caps. Maybe Toffoli + 16th for Kuznetzov + 8th if Caps want to dump Kuzenetzov and can't find any other takers.
 

StephenPeat

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Pretty terrible for the Caps. Maybe Toffoli + 16th for Kuznetzov + 8th if Caps want to dump Kuzenetzov and can't find any other takers.
Man this take doubles down on the stupid. The Caps aren’t going to trade back out of the Top 10 for Toffoli who is older, under shorter team control, and is an inarguably worse player. I wouldn’t trade Kuznetsov for Toffoli straight up. To also move back out of the Top 10? Hell No. WTF is this?

People are completely clueless about Kuznetsov’s situation in WSH. He isn’t a Cap Dump and more and more it doesn’t look like the Capitals are actively shopping him. Will he be moved? Likely. But it will also be a hockey trade not a terrible value trade just to move his contract.
 

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