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If Yzerman gave up a 7th round pick for both it still might be a bad trade because of all the damage control they'd have to do with the fans and season ticket holders in Detroit.
Value of: Toews & Kane to Detroit with 33% retention
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What's less likely. Detroit dumping futures into 2 players on the back 9 of their careers or Chicago trading 2 of their mount Rushmore players to a historic rival?
SantosHalper
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Nah... i'd rather take Scotty Bowman back, Red Wings could use a senior advisor.
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You don't get it.
If you're not willing to give up major pieces, you shouldn't be asking for Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews.
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I mean the Wings did pull Chelios out of Chicago. Then he went on to play another decade in Detroit. I’d argue he has a place on the CBH Mt. Rushmore. (Which for my $ would be Hull, Makita, Chelios and Kane)
So it’s not impossible for a CBH legend to come to Hockeytown….just not these two, not now. The timing is wrong for the wings and the baggage they carry after this week makes them a liability.
do not understand your logic. They are not immortal and will be worth little or nothing soon. Keeping them ia not going to help Chicago win the cup, which is the reason teams play. By the time Chicago accumulates enough young talent to be a contender those 2 players will be long gone
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They brought 3 cups to Chicago after 49 years of failure.
Yes, they're basically immortal and will have statues outside the United Center.
Their on-ice value doesn't matter anymore.
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A) The Wings are not at the point where they should be adding
B) Toews and Kane don’t make sense at this point. Kane maybe. Toews, nope.
B) Toews and Kane don’t make sense at this point. Kane maybe. Toews, nope.
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Detroit is rebuilding….this is not a deal a smart GM like Yzernan makes at this stage
that and with the recent “events”…I think ppl might stay away from Kane and toews. Maybe a team like Toronto that’s desperate for a playoff run, but that would be a fun set of cap gymnastics lol
that and with the recent “events”…I think ppl might stay away from Kane and toews. Maybe a team like Toronto that’s desperate for a playoff run, but that would be a fun set of cap gymnastics lol
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Like Duncan Keith?
Keith specifically asked to be moved to Western Canada so he could be closer to his son.
Hawks obliged his request.
MBH
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Yeah.
I think Detroit fans would be fine with it if it helped the team.
We hated Chelios until we loved him.
We loved Probert despite all his meatheaded antics.
I wouldn't mind picking those players up after next season when they become free agents(at reasonable cap hits), but I am not willing to mortgage the young Redwing's promising future for short term gain if it involves trading our best prospects.
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Patty would have high value with retention. Nobody would touch Toews even with 33%. Hrs been horrible since returning
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What you are missing is the fact that as years go on, both JT and Kanes value keeps lowering. Crucial for the Hawks to unload them sooner or later. Simply put, they did wonders for the Hawks but will do them even better if moved out while retrieving the Hawks higher value.
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He's been pretty mediocre for the better part of the last 5 years, honestly.
This trade proposal regarding toews and kane to Detroit is hilarious .
The question I think is come trade deadline or possibly at the draft do they both get moved and what teams?
Kane will definitely fetch a haul he is still exceeding expectations and a serious contender knows kane still has plenty left in the tank two first round picks maybe 3 and a high level prospect
Toews maybe gets a 1st round pick he is still over 50% on the face-off.
The question I think is come trade deadline or possibly at the draft do they both get moved and what teams?
Kane will definitely fetch a haul he is still exceeding expectations and a serious contender knows kane still has plenty left in the tank two first round picks maybe 3 and a high level prospect
Toews maybe gets a 1st round pick he is still over 50% on the face-off.
Toews for a 1st? Good luck getting anything of value for him. He has negative value even if you retain salary.
