Todd Mclellan needs go

[JodyShelleysNo1Fan]

While I'd generally want Demers out there over Murray, the thought of Braun, Irwin, or Demers on a Critcal PK is scary. Murray has his spot until the young dmen learn to PK.

When Boyle or Stuart take a penalty, do you really want the 2nd Pk unit to be Braun/Demers?

So this fits the coaching staff's strategy of trying to prevent goals instead of score goals. Murray isnt THAT good defensively to warrant a spot in the lineup.

 

[Trojan35]

So this fits the coaching staff's strategy of trying to prevent goals instead of score goals. Murray isnt THAT good defensively to warrant a spot in the lineup.

Having our 6th defensemen be defensive-first isn't the reason the Sharks aren't scoring goals. Replacing Murray with Demers isn't going to suddenly jumpstart the Sharks offense.

The problem lies in the system, DW's trainwreck of a bottom 6, Pavelski's mediocrity and Clowe/Havlat's terribleness.

 

[Nighthock]

Demers has a tendency to make a bone-head play, and Irwin is too raw, but what is wrong with Braun?

I really haven't seen Murray as this PK savant.

Braun has WAY too many brain farts in defense. When you see a breakdown in D that leads to a goal, #61 is usually on the ice.

I really don't get the love for Braun around here ...

 

[PlaywithGutz*]

Toddr still coach eh...

with every port hole that goes under, one has to ask why DW hasnt made a change behind the bench..??.

Toddr has already tossed in the white flag by calling out the team ..he has no idea what to do next (unless DW tells him). It will get uglier unless DW makes a statement.

IMO bringing in LR only demonstrated DW's lack of faith in Toddr...lets face it Toodr was handed a championship calibrate team and he has shown just how green he is..

Time for a change...

 

[ChompChomp]

Having our 6th defensemen be defensive-first isn't the reason the Sharks aren't scoring goals. Replacing Murray with Demers isn't going to suddenly jumpstart the Sharks offense.

The problem lies in the system, DW's trainwreck of a bottom 6, Pavelski's mediocrity and Clowe/Havlat's terribleness.

The Murray/Demers thing is just about fielding the best lineup possible. Even if you lose every game, I expect the team to field the best lineup it can. That's a McLellan (and DW) issue.

And we all agree about the system

 

[hockeyball]

Toddr still coach eh...

with every port hole that goes under, one has to ask why DW hasnt made a change behind the bench..??.

Toddr has already tossed in the white flag by calling out the team ..he has no idea what to do next (unless DW tells him). It will get uglier unless DW makes a statement.

IMO bringing in LR only demonstrated DW's lack of faith in Toddr...lets face it Toodr was handed a championship calibrate team and he has shown just how green he is..

Time for a change...

We certainly agree here.

 

[Barrie22]

the owner needs to show he really does care about winning above all else, and fire the coach and the gm all in one swift kick. just in time for the trade deadline, so the new gm can get the trades that he wants in for the push for the playoffs.

 

[tHeExIsTeNtIaLiSt]

Steve Yzerman pulled the trigger today...DW should follow suit....

 

[Gene Parmesan]

the owner needs to show he really does care about winning above all else, and fire the coach and the gm all in one swift kick. just in time for the trade deadline, so the new gm can get the trades that he wants in for the push for the playoffs.

Who is the new gm? Who is the new coach?

 

[ChompChomp]

Who is the new gm? Who is the new coach?

Don't know about the coach, but let Joe Will be the interim GM and make moves without DW's biases against Russians and speedy skill players, and without DW's biases towards slow guys with size.

(And yes before you poke holes in my joke, I know that we don't know how much of it is DW vs. Joe Will vs. Burke, etc)

Edit: As to HC, we can hire Guy Boucher. With Boucher HC and Robinson Assoc Coach, we can run Boucher's trap...just to see if it can get more boring than Sharks hockey now.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Don't know about the coach, but let Joe Will be the interim GM and make moves without DW's biases against Russians and speedy skill players, and without DW's biases towards slow guys with size.

(And yes before you poke holes in my joke, I know that we don't know how much of it is DW vs. Joe Will vs. Burke, etc)

well I think the drafting of Hertl means they are getting more open to eastern european players.

Guy Boucher and Larry Robinson coaching this team...who needs melatonin?

 

[Trojan35]

The Murray/Demers thing is just about fielding the best lineup possible. Even if you lose every game, I expect the team to field the best lineup it can. That's a McLellan (and DW) issue.

And we all agree about the system

Ok. Agree to disagree on Murray vs Demers.

Although I'm on board the trade Murray bandwagon. Once the sharks are out of the playoffs they need room for Demers and Braun in the lineup every night.

 

[Barrie22]

ken hitchcock would be a good coach to bring in for a season or 2.

gm is a lil bit more difficult right now since i can't think of an gm who is available other then the 30 that already have jobs.

unless brian burke is willing to leave anaheim as the consulting thingy he has there to be a gm again.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Hitchcock would be the worst possible coach we could bring in.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Hitchcock would be the worst possible coach we could bring in.

Say what you will about Hitchcock, but he realized that his patented style of play wouldn't work in the evolving NHL, and he changed it.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Say what you will about Hitchcock, but he realized that his patented style of play wouldn't work in the evolving NHL, and he changed it.

Having Chris Stewart, David Perron, David Backes, T.J. Oshie, Alex Pietroangelo, Kevin Shattenkirk, Alex Steen etc didn't hurt either.

 

[Ninja Hertl]

I can see why TM wants to play a 'slow, grinding game'. The team is pretty slow overall. Hard to play the uptempo game when your skaters can't create any space (other than Marleau/Burns).

Problem is, is that it's not working. Need to adapt, which from a viewer's standpoint, he seems unable to.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I can see why TM wants to play a 'slow, grinding game'. The team is pretty slow overall. Hard to play the uptempo game when your skaters can't create any space (other than Marleau/Burns).

Problem is, is that it's not working. Need to adapt, which from a viewer's standpoint, he seems unable to.

The team plays slower than their foot speed.

 

[Ninja Hertl]

The team plays slower than their foot speed.

Could be it. They looked quick in the first 7 games, that's for sure. Maybe that was the anomaly?

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Could be it. They looked quick in the first 7 games, that's for sure. Maybe that was the anomaly?

Well they are just too deliberate with the puck and are very sloppy. It makes them look slower than they are. The system is also very passive and they hardly ever press.

 

[Barrie22]

Could be it. They looked quick in the first 7 games, that's for sure. Maybe that was the anomaly?

no those 7 games is exactly what this team is capable of, it was almost as if the players were given the green light to do whatever they wanted on the ice.

other then special teams, the team basically had no system 5 on 5 it seemed, it was do what feels right type of thing.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

no those 7 games is exactly what this team is capable of, it was almost as if the players were given the green light to do whatever they wanted on the ice.

other then special teams, the team basically had no system 5 on 5 it seemed, it was do what feels right type of thing.

Another problem with the team..its too systematic.

 

[sharski]

Do the obvious solution is to fire the coaching staff, but just not replace them... Just let all the players wing it out there

It could not be any worse than how its going right now, so what the hell why not try it

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Do the obvious solution is to fire the coaching staff, but just not replace them... Just let all the players wing it out there

It could not be any worse than how its going right now, so what the hell why not try it

Well Joe Thornton did say if he could remove one thing from hockey it'd be coaches.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Do the obvious solution is to fire the coaching staff, but just not replace them... Just let all the players wing it out there

It could not be any worse than how its going right now, so what the hell why not try it

Seriously. Exactly what I was thinking.

6 wins (regulation or otherwise) in the last 23 games with the skill levels of our players. A team with players as skilled as ours should be able to win that many games without a damn coach.