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You have to watch the player to have anything to say about their game
Timothy Liljegren is really frickin good now
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You have to watch the player to have anything to say about their game
HockeyVirus
16/34/88/91/44 - Pathetic losers
- Nov 15, 2020
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Good times. A fun read for those who care, like all HF threads gets juicy a few pages in
The Truth about Phil Kessel
.Each one of them contain multiple responses such as "hes overpaid" "his conditioning is horrible" "hes bad defensively" "65 point winger". All of which are incorrect. He does not have bad condioning, he tales a medication to treat for his cancer that he was diagnosed with in 2006. The side...
Pavels Dog
Registered User
By what metric?
Total:
31st in points (drafted 17th)
6th among d-men (6th d-man taken)
This season:
24th in points
4th in points among d-men
6th in TOI/GP among d-men
In a re-draft right now he might go somewhere around 10-15, so that's a solid pick. But it's also in part because there's a lot of disappointing players in that draft.
LeafsNation75
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In Bob McKenzie's pre-season draft rankings for the 2017 draft, he had Liljegren at #2 behind Nolan Patrick. If he never got mono during the first two months in the Swedish Elite League and etc, he might have been a top 3 or top 5 pick. When Toronto selected him at 17th overall it was seen as a steal because of his early pre-draft rankings.
McKenzie's pre-season ranking: The 'Nolan Patrick Draft'
The Brandon Wheat Kings centre is the unanimous choice at No. 1 on TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's September ranking for the 2017 NHL Draft.
www.tsn.ca
2. Timothy Liljegren: The Swede is the undisputed top defenceman in this draft and, at this point, it's not even close.
Scouts say his offensive game is far more developed than his defensive game. He is an elite skater, both in terms of speed and agility, and adept at running a power play. He is seen as both a puck mover and an offensive point producer. No one is suggesting he's the next Erik Karlsson, not by any means, but scouts say he has some of the same qualities and, therefore, has the potential to be projected as a possible top pairing defenceman in time. Liljegren is the only prospect other than Patrick who got 10 votes from the 10 scouts as a top-10 pick.
Pavels Dog
Registered User
It really does not matter where he was ranked 6-7 years ago. If he had been drafted at #2OA he would be considered a horrible pick.
LeafsNation75
Registered User
Skip ahead to the 5:22 mark of this video when Sam Cosentino called Lilijegren a steal at 17th overall, because if he was 100% healthy in his draft year he would have been at least a top 5 pick.
Pavels Dog
Registered User
That person recently stated the Leafs were superior to the Bruins at nearly every aspect of the roster including top 6, bottom six, defense, coaching, etc. Many grains of salt with anything they say.
What? It makes no sense to use actual goals scored against when judging a defenseman but using a stat that is a complete judgement is better.
I’m sorry but using what actually happens when a player is on the ice is for more meaningful than some stat that’s not results oriented. Especially when comparing players on the same team playing in front of the same goalies.
How are liljegrens actual numbers so much better than?
Wow man you are really mad that i was reminded of a comment when i read a comment.
You are even making things that I said to try and make me look bad lol. Who the hell brought up lidstrom?
Here’s how it actually went down.
Poster 1 - here’s a bunch of expected advanced stats
Poster 2 - posts like this remind me how people used to argue for Dermott
Me - this post does remind me of those posts
You - umm actually let me tell you how your mind works because you aren’t supposed to think like that
Then you responded to me like 8 more times trying to get me to admit to something I don’t believe and didn’t say, and now you are making hyperbolic statements and attributing them to me for some reason.
I saw a post that reminded me of other posts, it’s not that deep dude. No idea why you are so upset about this.
The difference between Dermott and Liljegren is liljegren has actual stats to back him up, unlike Dermott who always had people using expected numbers that didn’t match his actual on ice results.
I’m simultaneously arguing with one person saying I’m overrating this kid while arguing with another person trying to make me underrate him.
Never change HF.
Never change HF.
Not mad, you made a silly comment and then tried ducking it when called out for making the silly comment
Ducking it by responding to every single asinine thing you’ve said? Responding to ever false accusation and assumption you’ve made about my own opinion is ducking you? What exactly have you called me out about by the way?
I’m sorry you’re upset that a comment reminded me of something. It’s going to be okay. I promise.
