Cut and dry, and I agree. Savard won the job. We just aren't used to having depth on defense. Erixon is good, so are the 7/8 guys ahead of him.
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Cut and dry, and I agree. Savard won the job. We just aren't used to having depth on defense. Erixon is good, so are the 7/8 guys ahead of him.
One of the few times I wouldn't have noticed it in preseason. While true that we have more depth, it didn't color my view on the situation.
Savard had his fair share of total garbage games last season and could have been easily replaced on numerous occasions. Prout wasn't all that good all season. Your assessment is off IMO.
Erixon was fine the couple of games he did manage to get in. Richards had something against Erixon. Not sure what it was, nor do I care. We've seen this with most head coaches around the league at one time or another. Doesn't mean they were rational or even right.
Cut and dry... Please.
Not cut and dry, and maybe not much intrigue either. A player who has to be waived doesn't get sent to the AHL, while a younger player (possibly better player) gets sent down? That's just normal asset management. I don't know one way or another if there are other factors with Richards.
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To me, once someone is picked, the level of that pick doesn't mean a lot. Once you're drafted, you're either going to be in the nhl or not based on how you perform. Potential is only valuable in determining where you're drafted...after that, it doesn't really mean much.
After all, a draft pick is pretty much just an educated guess, not a guarantee. (Oh that we would not know this so well)
It's not like Goloubef got a whole lot of ice time in the games he managed to play in, despite being pretty solid in the lockout season.
Prout is just too slow - skating wise, decision wise. I don't get everyone's fascination with him. I'd take Erixon (and Goloubef) over him at this point.
The issue for Erixon is that 5 blue line spots are pretty much locked up. Tyutin (NTC), Johnson, Wiz (NTC), and Murray aren't likely going anywhere - maybe Johnson gets traded but not likely. Savard played his way into a contract as a 3rd pair guy. That leaves just the 6/7 spots open - and that's not counting Nikitin (likely gone), Schultz (if they want to re-sign him), and Prout. For better or worse, 4 or 5 spots on the blue line are virtually guaranteed for the next 3-4 years barring a trade or buyout. And two vets have NTC's, which turn into modified NMC's soon. I'd like to see some space made for Erixon & Heatherington in the next few years, but tell me how those roster spots open up?
Prout is just too slow - skating wise, decision wise. I don't get everyone's fascination with him. I'd take Erixon (and Goloubef) over him at this point.
The issue for Erixon is that 5 blue line spots are pretty much locked up. Tyutin (NTC), Johnson, Wiz (NTC), and Murray aren't likely going anywhere - maybe Johnson gets traded but not likely. Savard played his way into a contract as a 3rd pair guy. That leaves just the 6/7 spots open - and that's not counting Nikitin (likely gone), Schultz (if they want to re-sign him), and Prout. For better or worse, 4 or 5 spots on the blue line are virtually guaranteed for the next 3-4 years barring a trade or buyout. And two vets have NTC's, which turn into modified NMC's soon. I'd like to see some space made for Erixon & Heatherington in the next few years, but tell me how those roster spots open up?
Just my observation. I saw nothing on the ice that would justify him being, essentially, banished from games. I can only conclude it was something I didn't see on the ice.
Prout was really good in the lockout season, but had his ups and downs last season with injuries and consistent play.
Erixon was good in the lockout season as well, but as you mentioned its difficult to break into the top 6 with this group. We don't have any Norris contenders (maybe Murray one day) but we have 8 or 9 NHL calibre defenseman in the system.
His +/- in '13 was helped by Bob playing out of his mind. Agree on the injuries and inconsistency with Prout - probably what led to his healthy scratches late in the year and playoffs.
Of the Savard/Erixon/Prout/Goloubef group, I'll be surprised if management is able to keep more than two of them. I just don't see any of those guys willing to play in the AHL anymore. Wonder if Jarmo will try to include one or two in a package deal (say, with Umberger)?
If by "something against", blahblah meant "the defense stayed relatively healthy", what he said was spot on.
Erixon will make the team out of training camp next year. Book it.
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As for the rest of the same, Savard made it after his banishment and firm lecturing. What will it prove if Erixon makes it?
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If Erixon makes it..
it just means the kid earned his time on the big ice. Not like he was handed anything. I fully expect that he will make it, & we will have a few pieces to move
it just means the kid earned his time on the big ice. Not like he was handed anything. I fully expect that he will make it, & we will have a few pieces to move
Erixon not being able to crack the lineup had little to do with being better/worse than Prout, or Savard. Erixon is a left shot (Prout, Savard are right). Erixon was not better than Murray, Johnson, Tyutin, and Nikitin (left handed shooters). It was a numbers game. It's not easy to flip sides on defense.
I'm glad Tim got experience with practice, locker room, and coaches, so he can enter camp ready to make the club.
I'm glad Tim got experience with practice, locker room, and coaches, so he can enter camp ready to make the club.
That he's good enough and that the numbers game that caused his banishment last season took care of itself? And for the only period of sustained injuries on the blueline last season, Erixon was hurt and Goloubef got the call.
Not sure where the narrative of "not good enough" took place. With the exception of Prout (who earned himself a trip back to the AHL), all of our defensemen last season can be described as "NHL average." No shame in not being able to stick.
2014/01/02 Assigned to the Springfield Falcons (AHL).
2013/12/09 Recalled from Springfield (AHL).
During that time he made it into one game.
Thanks for playing. There was more to this than a numbers game. You should be able to find a couple of posts around that period in which I was commenting "Geez Savard kind of sucked, why didn't Erixon get into a game" posts.
Reminds me of some of the BS with Commie and Arniel.
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Get outta here with that hockey know-how! Clearly Richards hates him. Marsha Marsha Marsha!
Yeah but does Richards care that much about handedness? He had Tyutin-JJ as a pairing for most of the year.
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I imagine Richards would trust veterans to deal with it more than young guys like Erixon.
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Robert
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The last I was told when I asked JD about Erixon he told me he was injured... I can only assume he's suffering a life long injury because if he's not injured not one CBJ official has given the fan base a definitive alternative other than ********..
I don't think the fanbase really gives a **** about a #8 d-man. You really need to let it go.
Robert
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Yet the posts and questions keep coming about Tim Erixon.... You need to relax...
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You seem to think the organization has it out for the dude, has it ever occurred that maybe JUST MAYBE he's not good enough?
theD86
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Hopefully he'll be motivated to come out in camp and try to prove himself worthy of a roster spot. That's what makes teams better.
Oh please. There was obviously no chance to get him in the lineup the entire month he was up here. Richards doesn't have another example of this with any other player(s) on this team does he?
Hate might not be the right word, but from my perspective there was more than just a simple left handed shot. That would explain not being used heavily, but wouldn't explain an almost complete lack of use over such a long stretch. It wouldn't do Erixon or the franchise any good.
There was something more. Not even saying Richards was wrong, just saying I don't know what it is and I find this tendency in him less than desirable.
Now you guys go off and have yourself some fun trying to make this a conspiracy theory or some such nonsense. Your hyperbole is clearly intended to marginalize, make them embarrassed and shut them up. When I say something like this about the treatment of a player; I think it through and give more than one side. I don't appreciate comments like this.
