Like I said, I glad all the countries from Europe with a fraction of the population of the US enjoy the World Championships. It's still not a worldwide event. Sweden and Finland can fit in one of the 50 states. "25 countries" doesn't make it worldwide.
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No. The WJC is not big in the USA. The Super Bowl, The World Series and the NBA Finals are big there. How many people in USA watch the WJC final if USA is playing? I doubt it's even 2.5 million. That's how many Finns will be watching if Finland makes it to the WHC final. There are 5.5 million Finns, while USA's population is well over 300 million. That should give you some idea of how insignificant the WJC is for the people of the USA.
The global TV audience for the WHC is way bigger than the audience for the WJC. The WHC is more worldwide than the WJC, cause Canada is the only country where the WJC is big. The fact that the WJC is more popular in the USA than the WHC doesn't make much difference, cause overall they're both still pretty meaningless for the American people, and neither one is anywhere close to the ratings the WHC draws in Russia.
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Maybe I'm wrong about the WJC. I assumed it was more fun to watch for everyone since it's a true best on best tournament (less the few eligible players in the NHL). I never said it was popular in the USA, I just said it was definitely more popular in the USA and Canada than the World Championships.
Regardless, the World Championship is not a world-wide event no matter how much you want to make it out to be.
Well I don't think anything in hockey is a "world-wide event". A list of sporting events that have truly world-wide appeal would be a short one. At the end of the day, the WC, despite its flaws, is a bigger event than the WJC.
If you had actually just stated that it's bigger in the USA and Canada, I would have agreed. But because you know next to nothing about hockey in Europe, you decided to state that it's more worldwide. It's not, it's the other way around, and by a fairly large margin.You probably made that statement cause you think that an audience of 7 million Canadians and 1 million Americans makes a tournament "more worldwide" than an audience of 30 million Russians and one million Canadians. I can understand that you as an American might think that way, but that doesn't make it true.
Nothing in ice hockey is a world-wide event, but the WHC is more global than the WJC. Even the Olympic final of ice hockey is globally insignificant. People in Africa, South America, southern Europe and the vast majority of Asia don't care. Ice hockey is a marginal sport.
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The whole argument here is whether or not the World Championship is a big deal on an international level. It's not. I'm glad you guys have fun with it in Europe, but hardly anyone is aware of it over here. I was wrong about the WJC if your numbers are correct. Still, I don't know why you Europeans are trying to tell us that the WC is a global event(even at the hockey-community level) when it simply isn't.
habsrule4eva3089
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11 million Canadians tuned into the World Championships.
Only in the US is it not significant. Every other Hockey country watches it.
The event secured a total cumulative TV audience of over 1 billion viewers, as compared to 945 million in 2014. Overall, it was aired to 165 territories worldwide - receiving a total of 5,381 hours of coverage. New or expanded contracts ensured additional coverage in Italy, the Netherlands, Thailand, Myanmar, Indonesia and Malaysia besides others.
Is that not global enough? Way more global then a professional league named the nhl which is watched by 2 countries. And in Canada about 2.5 million watched the Stanley Cup final last year on average. Just shows how significant this league is without Canadian teams participating in it for Canadians.
...because Canada was in the Finals. Maybe I'm going nuts, but never have I ever heard much of anything about the World Championships before last year. I know there's no media surrounding it in the US. Canadians didn't seem to care before last year (the first year in as long as I can remember that Canada took it seriously). I know for a fact that it isn't seen as remotely close in importance compared to the Olympics in NA. Also, in no way am I trying to disrespect the WC. I'm just stating what I've seen as a North American hockey fan. No Canadian can tell me they've cared deeply about the World Championships, especially before the last one.
Sports like basketball, volleyball and rugby are infinitely bigger than ice hockey. If Finland ever managed to win an Olympic medal in basketball or volleyball, it would be a way more notable achievement than an Olympic medal in a marginal sport like ice hockey.
Do you have problems remembering your own words? This is an exact quote from you: The WJC is a much more prestigious and worldwide hockey event.
You are wrong there. The WHC is a more worldwide hockey event than the WJC, with a vastly superior global TV viewership. I have never claimed that the WHC is a big deal on an international level, and I have never even said that it's prestigious. No ice hockey tournament or league will ever be a big deal on an international level, because it's such a tiny sport. The deciding Stanley Cup final will draw maybe 10-15 million viewers worldwide, compared to the 180 million viewers of the UEFA Champions league final.
The WHC is still a more worldwide event than the WJC. Or maybe I should say it's not quite as small globally as the WJC. Even though I think that most people do understand that if I say Tyler Ennis is taller than Nathan Gerbe, I'm not saying that Tyler Ennis is tall.
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Canadians generally don't care about the WHC and it serves only as an interesting afternoon warm-up to that evening's NHL playoff action for the hardcore hockey fan. but if every year a bunch of A list or close to A list players accepted invites and were committed and motivated with the proper coaching, then Canadians would tune in more...as we did last year. Last year's team was fun to watch...but it's a roll of the dice every year with Hockey Canada. I hope last year's experience opened the eyes and changed the attitudes of Canadian players who are habitual decliners or scoff at the thought of that tournament...And to give a name, Drew Doughty. when asked last year by a reporter if he would accept the invite to play in Prague, his reaction was less than enthusiastic. something along the lines of, why would I want to play in that tournament? Hopefully he was watching the GMG in Prague and his attitude was changed by it, along with others.
Rugby has 2.3 million registered players worldwide while hockey has 1.8 million. Guess that makes it "infinitely bigger".
And there are more registered football players in Finland and Canada than there hockey players, which means that football is a bigger sport in Finland and Canada, right?
The 2015 Rugby World Cup final was enjoyed by an estimated TV audience of 120 million people.
habsrule4eva3089
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2010 Olympic Gold medal game peak over 140 million people.
2014 probably had more because of time favouring euros to watch.
2014 probably had more because of time favouring euros to watch.
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Yea, I agree as well. I live a few minutes from the ACC and you could hardly tell the Pan Am games were a thing. In my experience, almost no one who was from the city seemed to even care.
See the post by GlobeHockey. Relatively few sports garner as high viewership numbers and attention as hockey, and volleyball definitely is not one of the sports that do.
harder than believing that the biggest most potent hocket market on the planet wont be able to fill the ACC to 25% capacity to see the worlds best players because of all things, cost ?
if the metric is, make more money than the olympics or the world shampionships, I believe it already has. its not hard to eclipse bubkis.
don't like it ? no one is forcing you to watch.
