Tickets (for the rich only!!)

[Macman]

Is there a big Finnish, Swedish, Russian, Czech population in Toronto?

I don't understand, why would Canadians pay that much money to watch other countries play. The point of an international tournament is to support your country.

It's going to look so glorious when it's empty

Happy days of failure ahead for this cash grab invitational. I don't know how this pan am you talk about fared, but if your right, this hopefully fails twice as hard.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[1Gold Standard]

Don't hold your breath.

all these tics are going to be gobbled up by corporations. and they'll be dished out to clients, family and friends.

The only thing is, will the place be full for games not involving Canada? I doubt it.

 

[Canuckistani]

Nobody here cared. Do you live in Toronto? the city didn't embrace it at all.

I wouldn't say the city didn't embrace the games at all, but it was viewed by most as an interesting event that provided an opportunity to see competition we would otherwise not. (The only thing I went to see was Canada vs Cuba baseball).

It certainly didn't grip the city the way the Blue Jays playoffs run did and wasn't the talk of the town by any means.

 

[Canuckistani]

Is there a big Finnish, Swedish, Russian, Czech population in Toronto?

I don't understand, why would Canadians pay that much money to watch other countries play. The point of an international tournament is to support your country.

Not necessarily.

Almost no one from overseas comes to Canada to see WJC games yet the attendance for non-Canada game is still pretty impressive. Although it's a safe bet that those games don't cost $300.

Perhaps some comparison could be drawn to the 2004 World Cup where Russia vs Slovakia at the ACC drew 18,115. But of course that was a real international event as opposed to an all-star game sideshow.

 

[Panteras]

this is the biggest joke of a tournament and I frankly don't understand how the IIHF and the national federations can agree to it or am I missing something? I mean how can the NHL sanction a national team tournament where the national teams have to abide or something? could you imagine? La Liga instead of FIFA sancitons a WC and the Argentinian federation is asked to send their team...pfffs da fuuu outta here

 

[Hardyvan123]

Not necessarily.

Almost no one from overseas comes to Canada to see WJC games yet the attendance for non-Canada game is still pretty impressive. Although it's a safe bet that those games don't cost $300.

Perhaps some comparison could be drawn to the 2004 World Cup where Russia vs Slovakia at the ACC drew 18,115. But of course that was a real international event as opposed to an all-star game sideshow.

I saw the world juniors in Vancouver when Malkin was here and those games were quite a bit more than regular junior games.

Can't remember exactly but Giant tickets were 17 bucks and pretty sure some of the playoff round games were 4 to 5 times greater.

It's Toronto and the tournament will involve pretty much the best players in the world much more so than the WHC.

 

[Hardyvan123]

this is the biggest joke of a tournament and I frankly don't understand how the IIHF and the national federations can agree to it or am I missing something? I mean how can the NHL sanction a national team tournament where the national teams have to abide or something? could you imagine? La Liga instead of FIFA sancitons a WC and the Argentinian federation is asked to send their team...pfffs da fuuu outta here

It's an NHL tournament and if you haven't noticed Rene Fassell and the IIHF in general don't get along with Bettman and the NHL.

It's literally the typical Dick waving contest going on.

but as the renowned american philosopher George Carlin would relate, what do you expect with 2 guys named Gary and Rene?

 

[FiLe]

this is the biggest joke of a tournament and I frankly don't understand how the IIHF and the national federations can agree to it or am I missing something? I mean how can the NHL sanction a national team tournament where the national teams have to abide or something? could you imagine? La Liga instead of FIFA sancitons a WC and the Argentinian federation is asked to send their team...pfffs da fuuu outta here

The IIHF does not actually have a monopoly on organizing international tournaments. Anybody can set up one and invite select feds to participate, and they can either agree to it, or no.

The World Cup is far from the only one too. For example, those various NT events played over the European hockey season - most notable example being the Euro Hockey Tour - are not IIHF sanctioned.
And they're even more numerous in junior hockey. Notably, the Hlinka Memorial is such "rogue" tournament.


Of course, the IIHF does not officially recognize the results in any of these either. They count for nothing in the IIHF World Ranking, for example.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

Meaning for the 2016 World Championships in Moscow and Saint Petersburg.

More than 500 packages have been sold from 19 countries all over the world and people from 110 Russian cities were registered in the first hour at the official ticket sales point online and at ticket offices.

Relating to this cash grab cup, I wonder if there's anyone other then Canadians that even know of this nhl exhibition cash grab cup.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

I wish more people in Canada understood the atmosphere of the Worlds.

Soccer has the World Cup every 4 years.

We're fortunate to have the Worlds every year to celebrate the game of Hockey amidst our small Hockey World in an atmosphere of pure joy and thrill.

 

[Mayor Bee]

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[1Gold Standard]

I wish more people in Canada understood the atmosphere of the Worlds.

Soccer has the World Cup every 4 years.

We're fortunate to have the Worlds every year to celebrate the game of Hockey amidst our small Hockey World in an atmosphere of pure joy and thrill.

How many WHC have you attended in Europe? I've been to 3..and that includes a Team Canada gold medal performance '07 Moscow, it's nowhere near what you describe of pure joy and thrill. The 3 I attended were fine, a decent hockey experience. Frankly, the 1 Spengler Cup in Davos I attended was a lot better of a hockey experience than any of the WHC I attended.

But what the NHL is offering up and has planned going forward, it is worse.

 

[Hardyvan123]

I wish more people in Canada understood the atmosphere of the Worlds.

Soccer has the World Cup every 4 years.

We're fortunate to have the Worlds every year to celebrate the game of Hockey amidst our small Hockey World in an atmosphere of pure joy and thrill.

I enjoy the WHC and I'm in the more is better than less category, thus I'm not making a big deal about the 2 non traditional teams in the NHL's world Cup, it's an interesting twist and frankly those 2 teams are going to be to be more competitive and more interesting (ie be more important for ticket sales and interest in the actual event) than the 7 and 8th best countries in the world.

 

[dubey]

Really? I live downtown and from what I saw, it seemed like tourists were more into it than anyone. I was at a popular bar on front during the opening ceremonies and nobody, in a packed bar, was paying any attention. In fact, people were asking them to change the station.

I wouldn't expect bar crowds to be into interpretive dance routines

I also live downtown and everyone was talking about the games. Almost everyone I know went to at least one event and the turnout for the concerts they held were huge. Do you know anyone that DIDN'T take a photo in front of the TORONTO sign or the torch? For an event that I wouldn't consider world-class, it definitely took over social media for two weeks and struck a chord with the entire city.

Is there a big Finnish, Swedish, Russian, Czech population in Toronto?

I don't understand, why would Canadians pay that much money to watch other countries play. The point of an international tournament is to support your country.

It's going to look so glorious when it's empty

Happy days of failure ahead for this cash grab invitational. I don't know how this pan am you talk about fared, but if your right, this hopefully fails twice as hard.

lol

I love how mad people are getting over this. If the games don't sell - great, I'll be able to pickup re-sale tickets for cheap off of stubhub. If they do sell I'm not going to lose sleep over it like everyone else in this thread lol

People in Toronto have money to spend. Why get worked up over the ticket prices? Harness your angst and put it towards getting a better job.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

What don't you get, there is no interest for this cash grab. There'll be Hockey fans from over 25 countries at this years worlds in Russia, people would rather go to russia then waste their money watching a MEANINGLESS tournament alongside "Rich suit wearing" Canadians.

How can it be called an international event if no one cares. Where is the atmosphere? Are Canadians apparent of what swedes Finns Russians Czechs Swiss Slovaks chant during games?

It befuddles my minds people view gimmick teams as legit. It's about watching players play for love of their country that makes international Hockey what is is.

I can't wait to see scenes around the world of it being in the back pages and not being talked about with anyone. It's a sad sight when this league only understands the dynamics of 2 countries when this love for Hockey exists in many more.

 

[Hardyvan123]

What don't you get, there is no interest for this cash grab. There'll be Hockey fans from over 25 countries at this years worlds in Russia, people would rather go to russia then waste their money watching a MEANINGLESS tournament alongside "Rich suit wearing" Canadians.

How can it be called an international event if no one cares. Where is the atmosphere? Are Canadians apparent of what swedes Finns Russians Czechs Swiss Slovaks chant during games?

It befuddles my minds people view gimmick teams as legit. It's about watching players play for love of their country that makes international Hockey what is is.

This comp is meaningless in reality. there will be more countries going to the WHC for a variety of reasons, most of them being on price point, more counties in the tournament and more ticket availability for starters not actual interest in the players involved.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

This comp is meaningless in reality. there will be more countries going to the WHC for a variety of reasons, most of them being on price point, more counties in the tournament and more ticket availability for starters not actual interest in the players involved.

The players playing is of little importance if collectively people do not care. The event is formed by the people watching. This sport only has two events that attract Worldwide attention. The World Championships and the Olympics.

Winning a World Championship in May is a feat of accomplishment that winning a cash grab invatational can never compare to.

You think even if the nhler's are not in Pyeongchang that would stop the massive amount of Canadians or anyone else in the World to not come and support and watch whoever plays for them?

I don't think so. You'll get the usual 20 million plus watching any Olympics where there is a Team Canada playing. Let's see how much of a failure this is for Canadian audiences also.

 

[JVR21]

What don't you get, there is no interest for this cash grab. There'll be Hockey fans from over 25 countries at this years worlds in Russia, people would rather go to russia then waste their money watching a MEANINGLESS tournament alongside "Rich suit wearing" Canadians.

How can it be called an international event if no one cares. Where is the atmosphere? Are Canadians apparent of what swedes Finns Russians Czechs Swiss Slovaks chant during games?

It befuddles my minds people view gimmick teams as legit. It's about watching players play for love of their country that makes international Hockey what is is.

I can't wait to see scenes around the world of it being in the back pages and not being talked about with anyone. It's a sad sight when this league only understands the dynamics of 2 countries when this love for Hockey exists in many more.

No offense, but nobody in North America cares about the World Championships. Why? Because it's simply not a "best on best" tournament. NHL players are still in the playoffs, and a lot of the guys not in the playoffs either want rest or need to nurse minor injuries. Most of the time, the guys playing for the US and Canada teams are there just to get on the good side of USA Hockey and Hockey Canada for going out of their way to be there.

 

[JVR21]

The players playing is of little importance if collectively people do not care. The event is formed by the people watching. This sport only has two events that attract Worldwide attention. The World Championships and the Olympics.

Winning a World Championship in May is a feat of accomplishment that winning a cash grab invatational can never compare to.

You think even if the nhler's are not in Pyeongchang that would stop the massive amount of Canadians or anyone else in the World to not come and support and watch whoever plays for them?

I don't think so. You'll get the usual 20 million plus watching any Olympics where there is a Team Canada playing.

Just to reaffirm, there is most definitely not worldwide attention for the WC. If surveyed, I'd bet 99.9% of Americans wouldn't even know that exists. Most NHL fans aren't even aware of it. I wish it was a bigger deal, but it's just not. The WJC is a much more prestigious and worldwide hockey event.

 

[dubey]

No offense, but nobody in North America cares about the World Championships. Why? Because it's simply not a "best on best" tournament. NHL players are still in the playoffs, and a lot of the guys not in the playoffs either want rest or need to nurse minor injuries. Most of the time, the guys playing for the US and Canada teams are there just to get on the good side of USA Hockey and Hockey Canada for going out of their way to be there.

In before:

"It's a sad sight when this league only understands the dynamics of 2 countries when this love for Hockey exists in many more"

He doesn't get it

 

[JVR21]

In before:

"It's a sad sight when this league only understands the dynamics of 2 countries when this love for Hockey exists in many more"

He doesn't get it

Yeah, by all means I'm happy that Europeans enjoy the World Championships. Saying that it's even close to on par with the Olympics at an international level is, however, very wrong.

 

[Hardyvan123]

The players playing is of little importance if collectively people do not care. The event is formed by the people watching. This sport only has two events that attract Worldwide attention. The World Championships and the Olympics.

Winning a World Championship in May is a feat of accomplishment that winning a cash grab invatational can never compare to.

You think even if the nhler's are not in Pyeongchang that would stop the massive amount of Canadians or anyone else in the World to not come and support and watch whoever plays for them?

I don't think so. You'll get the usual 20 million plus watching any Olympics where there is a Team Canada playing. Let's see how much of a failure this is for Canadian audiences also.

Canadians supported their Olympic teams even before NHLer's were allowed to play in the event.

But their is no doubt that the Olympics has become the prestigious and premier non league event in the hockey world but that is also directly because all of the worlds best players are involved and it's the premier best on best tournament in the world.

The same simply cannot be said of the WHC, while interesting doesn't hold the same marquee.

the SC holds the marquee for league titles and it's not even really close for second place.

 

[Lepardi]

Most NHL fans aren't even aware of it. I wish it was a bigger deal, but it's just not. The WJC is a much more prestigious and worldwide hockey event.

If you think the WJC is a much more "worldwide" event, then you must think that Canada is the world. It's the only country where WJC is big, the WHC is big in Finland, Russia, Slovakia and Latvia.

When Russia plays in the WHC final, the number of people watching the game on Russian TV is about equal to the whole Canadian population. I doubt there are over 30 million Canadians watching the WJC final.

 

[JVR21]

If you think the WJC is a much more "worldwide" event, then you must think that Canada is the world. It's the only country where WJC is big, the WHC is big in Finland, Russia, Slovakia and Latvia.

When Russia plays in the WHC final, the number of people watching the game on Russian TV is about equal to the whole Canadian population. I doubt there are over 30 million Canadians watching the WJC final.

You forget about the USA? I'd venture to say almost every US hockey fan in more interested in the WJC vs the WC

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

You forget about the USA? I'd venture to say almost every US hockey fan in more interested in the WJC vs the WC

Yes that's evident when you see people from over 25 countries at World Championships enjoying themselves and there's not many Americans there. Don't think the US counts as a Hockey country to be frank, it's just a nhl country. Americans don't come in waves supporting their national teams like in football at the World cup, and like every other country at international events as seen in Sochi and Prague.