Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel
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Huffer
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When we see the numbers, what we are seeing is tickets sold correct, and not bums in seats?
I think that's is correct, and the Jets do need to start getting those tickets sold numbers up. Others have made great arguments in the past for the reasons (treatment from TNSE, economy, etc.).
Watching the Jets though on this large roadtrip this past month, personally I feel like the individual paying Joe Jets fan isn't the main issue. I don't see the massive amounts of empty seats watching Jets home games vs watching Jets away games. For Jets home games those 13k or so of sold seats seem to actually be sitting in the crowd. But when I see the games on the road trip, there could be 15 or 16K sold in a different market, but I'd be shocked if more than 10K were there.
So that leads me to the topic that has been discussed about the Business community. Those tickets that are sold in other markets but with no buts in the seats leads me to think the majority are business tickets. We know our business community is much smaller, and some in that world have shared their experience and it appears that there is some real opportunity for TNSE in this area.
All that being said, I'd love to see a breakdown by NHL team ticket sales broken out between say "individual" and "business". Maybe I'm 100% wrong.
I think that's is correct, and the Jets do need to start getting those tickets sold numbers up. Others have made great arguments in the past for the reasons (treatment from TNSE, economy, etc.).
Watching the Jets though on this large roadtrip this past month, personally I feel like the individual paying Joe Jets fan isn't the main issue. I don't see the massive amounts of empty seats watching Jets home games vs watching Jets away games. For Jets home games those 13k or so of sold seats seem to actually be sitting in the crowd. But when I see the games on the road trip, there could be 15 or 16K sold in a different market, but I'd be shocked if more than 10K were there.
So that leads me to the topic that has been discussed about the Business community. Those tickets that are sold in other markets but with no buts in the seats leads me to think the majority are business tickets. We know our business community is much smaller, and some in that world have shared their experience and it appears that there is some real opportunity for TNSE in this area.
All that being said, I'd love to see a breakdown by NHL team ticket sales broken out between say "individual" and "business". Maybe I'm 100% wrong.
Thinking weather and road conditions played a part for out of the city folk .
Bender Duster
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Yep 100%
There are a few season ticket holders near our seats that always sell their tickets whenever the original six or Flyers come through town and the seats are almost always bought with O6 or Philly fans who came in from rural MB, SK or NWO to see their favorite teams (not the Jets).
The weather would have kept many of them away last night.
I see 15,321 listed everywhere but the original source of that has been memory-holed...probably during the website revamp when it switched from BellMTS Place to Canada Life Centre.What is our true arena capacity? This site lists it at 15,225. However, I've heard its around 15,3XX something.
NHL Attendance | Hockey-Reference.com
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You can see it listed on this game sheet from the 2018 playoffs (Round 1, Game 5, Jets 5-0 over the Wild to win the series). Game Summary
I believe the last reno that added seats was the loge expansion in 2015.
Hank Chinaski
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It’s been reported a few times in the last few years that the Jets have the lowest % of corporate support among all the Canadian teams. 15% or something around there? Not sure if that’s changed in the last year or so.
My observation from all the games I’ve attended this season is that all of the suites and premium (club) seats are spoken for. Most of the lower bowl is full. The unused inventory is in the upper level, and it seems to be consistent swaths of seats unoccupied (and I’m assuming unsold?) in a few sections, particularly the corners. It’s not readily apparent when watching on TV.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say those seats aren’t particularly attractive to big corporations, but maybe there’s a market for smaller businesses in Winnipeg?
Joe Jets fan isn’t snapping those seats up as a ST holder because they can go to basically any Jets regular season game they want and pay ST price or less.
EDIT: To your first question, the attendance reported is tickets distributed, not butts in the seats. So any tickets that have been sold plus comped tickets (I can’t recall how many the home team needs to set aside but it’s outlined in the CBA).
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abax44
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I'm out of town and roads were honestly fine, but hopefully you're right and it was just people being extra cautious.
One of issues with the corporate support number is a lot of those lower bowl seats are purchased by individuals who own small businesses. I see that being a major issue. If a sales rep calls "Joe Smith HVAC" or "John Doe Construction" for corporate support, chances are the owner of those small businesses already has seats of their own. Form what i see that is the dynamic of the Winnipeg business community.
Absolutely horrible weather out there, 13,000 would be pretty good.
jetsmooseice
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I'm a casual single-game buyer and I avoid original 6 games. I have no particular interest in seeing those teams relative to others, and the 06 games are generally priced way beyond an average game. So I'll happily sit out Boston and go see St. Louis, etc. instead for half the cost.
The pricing structure makes what used to be slam-dunk sellouts in the past less of a sure thing now, because so many "desirable" games are priced at a steep premium as compared to the old days when all games were the same price.
spiny norman
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I'll be at the next game versus Montreal and I have tickets for 3 others.
Sellout against the Wild. Sens game on the 28 looks like it will be the same. Looks like we will see the average above 14k soon.
Well after this holiday stretch we are now averaging over 14k (92%) per game 24 of 32 teams of capacity according to Hockey Reference. Detroit tomorrow also looks promising. If the trend is like last season where attendance continued to improve past the holidays, I have no reason to think we can't get to 95% capacity (14,450).
AtomicJets
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Might be a bit of a dip with 8 games in 16 days. Tough to maintain walk-up sales with that many games in such a short period. On the other hand, it's a good lineup of opponents and game-times. The Tuesday game against NSH and the Thursday against SEA will probably be in the 13k range but sellouts against COL, VAN and CGY are possible. LAK next Friday should be solid too.
Once the teams are back from the 4 Nations at the end of Feb I figure it's probably close to sellouts the rest of the way, especially if the team keeps playing well and if they make a big move at the deadline to get the public jacked up for the playoff run.
nobody imp0rtant
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As I predicted 3 months ago...
abax44
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Man predicts upward trend during said upward trend. More at 11!As I predicted 3 months ago...
I think the holiday stretch is always pretty good for attendance. People are off work, and the kids are off school. Family's in town for the holidays. Jets tickets make a nice Xmas gift.
bustamente
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With the team playing really well this year the marketing department really needs to strike while the irons are hot with the business community and try to add at least another 1-2k season tickets for next year and beyond.
The Blue Baron
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Winnipeg is really an island. People here complain about property tax increases of 5% which are far less than many other cities out there....and then they complain about the state of infrastructure. Bottom line, if you want better infrastructure and services, taxes will have to increase.
As for attendance, hopefully the Jets can sellout at least 3 of the 8 games...maybe 4.
I think we have 7 sellouts so far this year. Last year, we had 10 all season. At the beginning of the year, I was predicting 15-20 sellouts if the team was at least a solid playoff game. I will stick with that number.
As for attendance, hopefully the Jets can sellout at least 3 of the 8 games...maybe 4.
I think we have 7 sellouts so far this year. Last year, we had 10 all season. At the beginning of the year, I was predicting 15-20 sellouts if the team was at least a solid playoff game. I will stick with that number.
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They announced an increase and the threshold changes on snow removal simultaneously
And?! The fact is current tax rates are unsustainable for maintaining this city and have been for a loooooong time...especially given some terrible policies that encourage more suburban expansion and increase the stress on services and the infrastructure deficit.
Calgary just had an 8% tax increase.
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