Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel

[abax44]

13k vs Boston was a little surprising. Usually the OG6 are a given.

 

[Huffer]

When we see the numbers, what we are seeing is tickets sold correct, and not bums in seats?

I think that's is correct, and the Jets do need to start getting those tickets sold numbers up. Others have made great arguments in the past for the reasons (treatment from TNSE, economy, etc.).

Watching the Jets though on this large roadtrip this past month, personally I feel like the individual paying Joe Jets fan isn't the main issue. I don't see the massive amounts of empty seats watching Jets home games vs watching Jets away games. For Jets home games those 13k or so of sold seats seem to actually be sitting in the crowd. But when I see the games on the road trip, there could be 15 or 16K sold in a different market, but I'd be shocked if more than 10K were there.

So that leads me to the topic that has been discussed about the Business community. Those tickets that are sold in other markets but with no buts in the seats leads me to think the majority are business tickets. We know our business community is much smaller, and some in that world have shared their experience and it appears that there is some real opportunity for TNSE in this area.

All that being said, I'd love to see a breakdown by NHL team ticket sales broken out between say "individual" and "business". Maybe I'm 100% wrong.

 

[Jets 31]

13k vs Boston was a little surprising. Usually the OG6 are a given.

Thinking weather and road conditions played a part for out of the city folk .

 

[Bender Duster]

Thinking weather and road conditions played a part for out of the city folk .

Yep 100%

There are a few season ticket holders near our seats that always sell their tickets whenever the original six or Flyers come through town and the seats are almost always bought with O6 or Philly fans who came in from rural MB, SK or NWO to see their favorite teams (not the Jets).

The weather would have kept many of them away last night.

 

[Gm0ney]

What is our true arena capacity? This site lists it at 15,225. However, I've heard its around 15,3XX something.

NHL Attendance | Hockey-Reference.com

www.hockey-reference.com

I see 15,321 listed everywhere but the original source of that has been memory-holed...probably during the website revamp when it switched from BellMTS Place to Canada Life Centre.

You can see it listed on this game sheet from the 2018 playoffs (Round 1, Game 5, Jets 5-0 over the Wild to win the series). Game Summary

I believe the last reno that added seats was the loge expansion in 2015.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

When we see the numbers, what we are seeing is tickets sold correct, and not bums in seats?

I think that's is correct, and the Jets do need to start getting those tickets sold numbers up. Others have made great arguments in the past for the reasons (treatment from TNSE, economy, etc.).

Watching the Jets though on this large roadtrip this past month, personally I feel like the individual paying Joe Jets fan isn't the main issue. I don't see the massive amounts of empty seats watching Jets home games vs watching Jets away games. For Jets home games those 13k or so of sold seats seem to actually be sitting in the crowd. But when I see the games on the road trip, there could be 15 or 16K sold in a different market, but I'd be shocked if more than 10K were there.

So that leads me to the topic that has been discussed about the Business community. Those tickets that are sold in other markets but with no buts in the seats leads me to think the majority are business tickets. We know our business community is much smaller, and some in that world have shared their experience and it appears that there is some real opportunity for TNSE in this area.

All that being said, I'd love to see a breakdown by NHL team ticket sales broken out between say "individual" and "business". Maybe I'm 100% wrong.

It’s been reported a few times in the last few years that the Jets have the lowest % of corporate support among all the Canadian teams. 15% or something around there? Not sure if that’s changed in the last year or so.

My observation from all the games I’ve attended this season is that all of the suites and premium (club) seats are spoken for. Most of the lower bowl is full. The unused inventory is in the upper level, and it seems to be consistent swaths of seats unoccupied (and I’m assuming unsold?) in a few sections, particularly the corners. It’s not readily apparent when watching on TV.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say those seats aren’t particularly attractive to big corporations, but maybe there’s a market for smaller businesses in Winnipeg?

Joe Jets fan isn’t snapping those seats up as a ST holder because they can go to basically any Jets regular season game they want and pay ST price or less.

EDIT: To your first question, the attendance reported is tickets distributed, not butts in the seats. So any tickets that have been sold plus comped tickets (I can’t recall how many the home team needs to set aside but it’s outlined in the CBA).

 

[abax44]

Thinking weather and road conditions played a part for out of the city folk .

I'm out of town and roads were honestly fine, but hopefully you're right and it was just people being extra cautious.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Probably have 12,500 with an outside chance of just over 13,000 for tomorrow night's game against vegas.

 

[wpg1]

It’s been reported a few times in the last few years that the Jets have the lowest % of corporate support among all the Canadian teams. 15% or something around there? Not sure if that’s changed in the last year or so.

My observation from all the games I’ve attended this season is that all of the suites and premium (club) seats are spoken for. Most of the lower bowl is full. The unused inventory is in the upper level, and it seems to be consistent swaths of seats unoccupied (and I’m assuming unsold?) in a few sections, particularly the corners. It’s not readily apparent when watching on TV.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say those seats aren’t particularly attractive to big corporations, but maybe there’s a market for smaller businesses in Winnipeg?

Joe Jets fan isn’t snapping those seats up as a ST holder because they can go to basically any Jets regular season game they want and pay ST price or less.

EDIT: To your first question, the attendance reported is tickets distributed, not butts in the seats. So any tickets that have been sold plus comped tickets (I can’t recall how many the home team needs to set aside but it’s outlined in the CBA).

One of issues with the corporate support number is a lot of those lower bowl seats are purchased by individuals who own small businesses. I see that being a major issue. If a sales rep calls "Joe Smith HVAC" or "John Doe Construction" for corporate support, chances are the owner of those small businesses already has seats of their own. Form what i see that is the dynamic of the Winnipeg business community.

 

[Jets 31]

Probably have 12,500 with an outside chance of just over 13,000 for tomorrow night's game against vegas.

Absolutely horrible weather out there, 13,000 would be pretty good.

 

[wpg1]

Probably have 12,500 with an outside chance of just over 13,000 for tomorrow night's game against vegas.

Looking like 13500-14000 according to ticketmaster today.

 

[jetsmooseice]

13k vs Boston was a little surprising. Usually the OG6 are a given.

I'm a casual single-game buyer and I avoid original 6 games. I have no particular interest in seeing those teams relative to others, and the 06 games are generally priced way beyond an average game. So I'll happily sit out Boston and go see St. Louis, etc. instead for half the cost.

The pricing structure makes what used to be slam-dunk sellouts in the past less of a sure thing now, because so many "desirable" games are priced at a steep premium as compared to the old days when all games were the same price.

 

[spiny norman]

I'll be at the next game versus Montreal and I have tickets for 3 others.

 

[wpg1]

Sellout against the Wild. Sens game on the 28 looks like it will be the same. Looks like we will see the average above 14k soon.