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John Price said:
I didn't think it was bad or dumb but I also didn't think it was anything special. I was surprised the reviews were so positive. Nothing really stood out to me. It was an enjoyable 2 hours of entertainment, but I'll say that about any MCU movie that isn't L&T.
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I was expecting funnier, I guess. The Red Guardian was the central comic figure and I hated him in Black Widow for overdoing it and breaking tone (he's less of a sore thumb in this one). Not being funny, I just thought it was uninteresting - but I will admit I didn't get the depth that is talked about here.

As for L&T, well, I kind of liked it (well, relatively speaking, it's still something like a 4/10). Certainly not a good film, but I thought it was a lot more entertaining than this one. On the other hand, if the MCU fans can be happy with a new movie, I'll take it, a refreshing break from the usual whining.
 
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Pranzo Oltranzista said:
I was expecting funnier, I guess. The Red Guardian was the central comic figure and I hated him in Black Widow for overdoing it and breaking tone (he's less of a sore thumb in this one). Not being funny, I just thought it was uninteresting - but I will admit I didn't get the depth that is talked about here.

As for L&T, well, I kind of liked it (well, relatively speaking, it's still something like a 4/10). Certainly not a good film, but I thought it was a lot more entertaining than this one. On the other hand, if the MCU fans can be happy with a new movie, I'll take it, a refreshing break from the usual whining.
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Took me way too long to figure out what L&T stood for. :D

I don't totally get the hatred for that one. It's pretty squarely in the "it's fine" bucket for me. (I rank it #28 of 48 MCU movies/shows).

I think Thunderbolts is absolutely benefiting from the multi-year MCU drought. Bar has been lowered. The curve has been ... whatever happens with curves and grades and whatnot. I'm not about to nominate for Best Picture, but I'd watch it again, which is more than I can say for much of what's transpired the last few years.
 
KallioWeHardlyKnewYe said:
Took me way too long to figure out what L&T stood for. :D

I don't totally get the hatred for that one. It's pretty squarely in the "it's fine" bucket for me. (I rank it #28 of 48 MCU movies/shows).

I think Thunderbolts is absolutely benefiting from the multi-year MCU drought. Bar has been lowered. The curve has been ... whatever happens with curves and grades and whatnot. I'm not about to nominate for Best Picture, but I'd watch it again, which is more than I can say for much of what's transpired the last few years.
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I need to find my old MCU ranking and add the new ones. I'd like to say I won't rewatch Thunderbolts for a long long while, but I'm a sucka for crapfest once I'm lying down.
 
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Pranzo Oltranzista said:
I need to find my old MCU ranking and add the new ones. I'd like to say I won't rewatch Thunderbolts for a long long while, but I'm a sucka for crapfest once I'm lying down.
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I rank Thunderbolts #15 out of 48.

My rankings are tiered out into three groups. I have an eight movie top tier (very good to great), but more importantly this tier is the unassailable group to me. All hold up on multiple viewings and in some cases even improve.

My second tier is 20 deep. These are all fine to pretty good. Thunderbolts is in the upper third of that tier for me, but it's really a big jumble. Ask me six months from now and it may move up a few or down a few.

There's definitely some recency bias here. There are a couple of movies and shows in my bottom tier of 20 (forgettable to bad) that I used to like more but have severely diminished on repeat viewings.
 
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KallioWeHardlyKnewYe said:
I rank Thunderbolts #15 out of 48.

My rankings are tiered out into three groups. I have an eight movie top tier (very good to great), but more importantly this tier is the unassailable group to me. All hold up on multiple viewings and in some cases even improve.

My second tier is 20 deep. These are all fine to pretty good. Thunderbolts is in the upper third of that tier for me, but it's really a big jumble. Ask me six months from now and it may move up a few or down a few.

There's definitely some recency bias here. There are a couple of movies and shows in my bottom tier of 20 (forgettable to bad) that I used to like more but have severely diminished on repeat viewings.
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I'd be very curious to see the whole thing!
 
I actually quite enjoyed Thunderbolts, felt it was the best non GotG movie from Marvel since End Game, not that it quite means anything with the movies after End Game
 
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