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JimEIV said:
I have no allegiance to American companies "just because" they are American.

Some definitely deserve that consideration though: Small craftsmen like traditional bow and wooden arrow makers are definitely worth every penny...some leather workers that make quivers, arm guards and accessories I love to support.

Some fly reel companies are pretty awesome too. Nautilus, Hatch, Galvan and Lamson come to mind. All machined in the US.

My favorite fly tying vise Renzetti is made in Florida. Their quality is just unbelievable.

Easton Arrows is another. Easton does a lot of things now but they started as a wood arrow company that figured out aluminum was a viable arrow material. All their arrows shafts, now mostly carbon are made in Utah.

Most of these things have cheaper alternatives but there is a significant quality difference and I'm always happy to pay a premium for quality....but when companies are just putting their branding on the inferior quality stuff but want to charge the same as the small craftsmen or the the American machined fly reel I get super offended.
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If I get back into tying, I'm getting this vice:

renzetti.com

Renzetti Traveler C2404 6x6" Green Anodized Pedestal Base Fly Tying Vise

First introduced in 1988, it has become the most popular vise in the world. It offers the True Rotary® feature Renzetti Inc is known for, as well as portability and unquestionable hook holding power at an affordable price.
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TheUnseenHand said:
If I get back into tying, I'm getting this vice:

renzetti.com

Renzetti Traveler C2404 6x6" Green Anodized Pedestal Base Fly Tying Vise

First introduced in 1988, it has become the most popular vise in the world. It offers the True Rotary® feature Renzetti Inc is known for, as well as portability and unquestionable hook holding power at an affordable price.
renzetti.com
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Great vise... but holy smokes that's expensive. I had no idea that they have gone up so much. That green anodized looks sharp though. The original traveler was plain silver/chrome. I borrowed one from a friend and tied on it for over a year before I got mine. A lot of professional tiers tie on the traveler.

I have the Presentation 4000. And I paid $340 in 2017. Looking online it looks well over $500 now.

Every year I feel I'm more out of touch with current price... I guess it's a symptom of getting old.
 
JimEIV said:
Great vise... but holy smokes that's expensive. I had no idea that they have gone up so much. That green anodized looks sharp though. The original traveler was plain silver/chrome. I borrowed one from a friend and tied on it for over a year before I got mine. A lot of professional tiers tie on the traveler.

I have the Presentation 4000. And I paid $340 in 2017. Looking online it looks well over $500 now.

Every year I feel I'm more out of touch with current price... I guess it's a symptom of getting old.
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It's a symptom of other things. Getting old only accounts for a portion of it. A small one I'd argue, especially in the last 10 years or so.
 
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Yeah the price to build anything using fiberglass, carbon fiber, poly or epoxy resin is just insane today. I've been making surfboards since 2003, poly resin used to be $16 a gallon for years, it's $72 now, same with the foam blanks. Used to be $40 for a shortboard blank now its $130. It's all petroleum based stuff which really isn't that much higher now per barrel since then ($40 in 2008, $60ish today). Catalyst and additives like MEKP, styrene and other modifiers are really pricey for tiny little amounts too.

Like @TheUnseenHand said It's all bullshit, the price never comes down even after prices for materials came down and supply chains got better, shipping is a massive expense scam too. I'm using old 50's technology, real simple construction, the price for the more exotic resins, additives and cloths are bonkers.
 
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vive la france
 
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My two cats have treated having kids hoisted upon them very differently. Our large fluffy tortie is either too lazy or doesn't have the survival instinct, and mostly does nothing when the twins get a little rowdy (giving her a big hug, pulling on her tail, things of that nature). Lately they've gotten better at handling her and being more gentle, but for a time, they got plenty of scratches.

Our cream orange tabby noticed how her tortie sister gets treated and wants none of that. Whenever they appear, she runs into the kitchen and hides in a safe place where they can't reach. Recently, she sat on the couch arm and one of the twins was gentle with her for about five seconds. Then she tugged on her fur and got scratched. She's a street cat originally- she knows the score.
 
I'm going to check out Georgia. Hopefully it'll be the 21st state I've caught a trout in.

I've been holding steady at 20 for a long time now.
 
Mr Bojanglez said:
Today - my 3-legged dog killed her 3rd rabbit in the backyard. 2nd confirmed.... but likely 3rd overall.
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I’m sorry for thr rabbit. I know that’s your dog’s instincts and hard to overcome if you aren’t watching them like a hawk . Our female (RIP) used to chase critters in the back but she was loud and obvious so was only successful with turtles thankfully
 
My3Sons said:
I’m sorry for thr rabbit. I know that’s your dog’s instincts and hard to overcome if you aren’t watching them like a hawk . Our female (RIP) used to chase critters in the back but she was loud and obvious so was only successful with turtles thankfully
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yea its a bit of a bummer. Like i'm proud that she is fast enough. But also bummed for the animals.

This one... i think came from my neighbors yard. They just started construction/extension on their house. and I think it wondered over to our yard (looked like it was 'teenage' level size).
 
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