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DWGie26 said:
We need to win. Full stop! I am happy we are getting points but winning is better!
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In the postseason! I will take playing the right way over winning the wrong way! Had we won in OT, it would have been the wrong way by coming from behind 4-2 and winning 5-4. We got 30 games left in the regular season to stay a top 5 team in the NHL, but more importantly get in gear for the playoffs.

Blades Ov Steel said:
As the saying goes, 4th time is a charm!
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? I have never heard that being the 4th time around.
 
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SecretaryofDefense5 said:
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If I were an NHL coach and had to do any post game presser after an OT game not getting the 2nd point, I would never say it was a loss! "Tied game and the other team found a way to get the 2nd point!" Even if we got the 2nd point, I would still say, "Tied game, but we found a way to get the 2nd point in(OT/Shootout)."

Calicaps said:
Hell of a game. Caps looked tired, but they had chances to take it. Ovie goal was great. Glad Carbs isn't letting them off the hook though. They coulda had that one. Still, I'm not too upset. They played hard. Three games to the break.
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Only thought is maybe we look to acquire some goal clutchness like sort of what Poile did back in the day acquiring Dale Hunter.
 
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notDkristich said:
I always chuckle when someone says "heavy shot". Laws of physics...speed of the shot is the "heavy". Nothing else.
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Here's a quote from Ben Scrivens from an article.

Ryan Rishaug and I had a fun conversation with Scrivens today. We were talking about (Shea) Weber and his shot. "He has a heavy shot," said Scrivens. We asked him what is the difference between a heavy shot and hard shot. "There shouldn't be because the velocity is the same, but I'm telling you there is a difference. I can't explain it (laughs). Guys like Boychuk, Weber, Bergeron (Marc-Andre), who used to be here -- they had heavy shots. When it hits you, it hurts. Guys with hard/fast shots have the same velocity, but they aren't as heavy. I know that makes no sense, but it's true. When their shot hits you, you feel it more," said Scrivens. We spent a few more minutes discussing it, and chuckling, because we all felt there was a difference, but none of us could come up with a theory to properly explain it.
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notDkristich said:
I always chuckle when someone says "heavy shot". Laws of physics...speed of the shot is the "heavy". Nothing else.
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Laws of physics state that rotational kinetic energy and translational kinetic energy both add up the total kinetic energy. A heavy shot spins faster and has more energy. It feels heavier because it hits harder - it literally has to in order for the puck to stop spinning.
 
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alphabetical said:
Laws of physics state that rotational kinetic energy and translational kinetic energy both add up the total kinetic energy. A heavy shot spins faster and has more energy. It feels heavier because it hits harder - it literally has to in order for the puck to stop spinning.
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Man, put a warning sign up. I just read this and haven't even had coffee yet! ;)

On to Tuesday, be better Caps!!
 
Pretty good effort late.

Weird game. Absolutely dominated in the 1st (scoring chances 2-15 and high-danger chances 1-9), then they basically took over and scoring chances were 22-15 and high-danger chances 9-3 after the 1st.

Bad bounces (Samberg goal), and terrible mistakes like Fever gifting the Morrissey goal cost them along with CMM deciding not to play defense on OT.

I'm happy with the point anyway given this could have easily been over with how bad they were in the 1st.
 
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Honestly I’m still not used to not counting the Caps out, when the Jets got their third I seriously doubted we’d come back against Helle, scoring 4 against him is no easy task. Going into last night he only gave up 4+ goals 5 times this year in 41 starts. To put that into perspective, LT had given up 4+ goals 4 times this year in 27 starts, and we know damn well how good LT has been this year.

Turns out the two best goalies of the year can both have not great numbers in a game where they’re also playing against the two top offenses.
 
alphabetical said:
Laws of physics state that rotational kinetic energy and translational kinetic energy both add up the total kinetic energy. A heavy shot spins faster and has more energy. It feels heavier because it hits harder - it literally has to in order for the puck to stop spinning.
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this i can get behind...after I assess this.
 
notDkristich said:
this i can get behind...after I assess this.
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There could be some truth to the idea of a "heavy" shot in hockey, but it's not just about velocity. Here’s what might contribute to the perception that some shots "hit harder" even if they travel at the same speed as others:

1. Momentum & Impulse (How the Force is Delivered)​

  • Momentum - Since all pucks have the same mass, momentum should be the same for shots at equal speeds.
  • Impulse - If a shot is delivered in a way that transfers force over a shorter duration upon impact (such as hitting a goalie’s pad or stick sharply instead of "splashing" into it), it can feel heavier.

2. Rotational Kinetic Energy (Spin Might Matter)​

  • A shot with significant spin has additional rotational kinetic energy.
  • While this energy doesn’t directly add to the impact force, a spinning puck may interact differently on impact, especially if it strikes a stick, pad, or boards at an angle. The frictional interaction could lead to a more jarring sensation.

3. Shot Mechanics (Flex and Follow-Through)​

  • Some players generate their shot power using more stick flex and weight transfer, which can result in the puck coming off with more stability and consistent force rather than just raw speed.
  • A wobbling or fluttering shot dissipates energy inefficiently, whereas a clean, well-struck puck maintains its momentum better.

4. Aerodynamics & "Punch" of the Puck​

  • A "heavy" shot might have better puck stability (minimal flutter), meaning it loses less energy in the air and transfers more of it cleanly upon impact.
  • A player with a naturally longer or stronger follow-through may impart extra force that keeps the puck "pressing" forward upon impact.
  • A puck may also collide with something while it is still gaining speed. Puck speed in hockey is rarely measured with distance that allows for falloff.

Does Spin Make It Hit Harder?​

  • Not directly in terms of force on impact, but spin can change how the puck interacts when it hits a goalie, stick, or boards.
  • If the spin helps maintain a more rigid trajectory, it could transfer energy more efficiently and feel heavier than a wobbling shot.
  • In cases like deflections, a spinning puck might have more angular momentum, making it harder to control upon impact.

Conclusion​

  • A "heavy" shot is likely a combination of efficient energy transfer, puck stability, and how the impact is felt rather than just a function of speed.
  • Some players generate shots that maintain their energy better through clean mechanics, less flutter, and possibly some contribution from spin.
  • So, while the myth that "a heavy shot is just a fast shot with more spin" isn't entirely true, there is some physics supporting why certain players’ shots feel heavier when they land. 🚀🏒
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