Thoroughly unexcited.

[Gabriel426]

Well, I can’t wrap my head around any hockey fans with any teams to not feel excited about the coming season.
It is hockey.

For Leafs fans, at least myself, I want them to do well and be undefeated but I also know that none of that matters unless they win the Cup, well maybe, I am good with ECF, as long as they don’t get blow out.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

I keep seeing this dumb thread at the top.

I guess I just assisted in said bump

 

[Gary Nylund]

The past does not dictate today, or the future. By that logic, all 31 teams who didn't win last season should just fold, because the past guarantees the future.

This does not apply to sports. World events? Sure. History repeats itself over and over again.

No shit Sherlock, I said the same thing just a few posts before yours.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

It can be hard to get excited when fans have been conditioned to accept failure from a team that refuses to admit mistakes.

Toronto FC general manager promises change is coming

One thing is already certain when it comes to Toronto FC's roster: Change is coming.

www.sportsnet.ca

"You know what they say about insanity. We can't continue to do the same things, operate the same ways and run out the same group and expect magically to have a 180 (shift) in results next year. So there will be changes."
(Jason Hernandez, General Manager, TFC)

This man should be in charge of the Leafs.

Shanahan's unwillingness to change direction is becoming more intolerable with each passing failure. Doing nothing has resulted in exactly that: nothing. The whole "we are going to get this done" thing a joke.

It takes a certain level of arrogance to not change anything now.

It shows Shanahan has an enormous ego. How can you make good decisions when you have an ego like that? You can't fix a mistake if you can't admit you made one in the first place.

It's challenging for fans to remain optimistic with someone like that still in charge.

 

[Nineteen67]

Yeah this team can deliver on the entertainment front, no doubt about that. I want to hope that things will be different in the playoffs this time around but I just can't get my hopes up too high. If I knew they hired the best shrinks in the business to help Marner get his head together, that would help a lot in that regard but he was just so bad, I don't feel like he's a player we can count on. And when you have 11 million tied up in a player, you need him to produce in the biggest moments if you want to go anywhere.

My biggest hope is Reaves - maybe he can bring about an attitude change in the group? Not sure how likely that is though, thinking he can save the day for us seems like a laughable stretch but who knows, stranger things have happened I guess. Maybe if the team shows signs of growing a pair as the season goes on I'll get more excited, we'll see.

What’s more likely; Reaves changes the group or Reaves ends up hating the group?

 

[Leaf Fans]

It can be hard to get excited when fans have been conditioned to accept failure from a team that refuses to admit mistakes.

Toronto FC general manager promises change is coming

One thing is already certain when it comes to Toronto FC's roster: Change is coming.

www.sportsnet.ca

"You know what they say about insanity. We can't continue to do the same things, operate the same ways and run out the same group and expect magically to have a 180 (shift) in results next year. So there will be changes."
(Jason Hernandez, General Manager, TFC)

This man should be in charge of the Leafs.

Shanahan's unwillingness to change direction is becoming more intolerable with each passing failure. Doing nothing has resulted in exactly that: nothing. The whole "we are going to get this done" thing a joke.

It takes a certain level of arrogance to not change anything now.

It shows Shanahan has an enormous ego. How can you make good decisions when you have an ego like that? You can't fix a mistake if you can't admit you made one in the first place.

It's challenging for fans to remain optimistic with someone like that still in charge.

Why? All he has done is paraphrased some nonesense that has been missatributed to Einstein.

 

[Hellcat]

The past does not dictate today, or the future. By that logic, all 31 teams who didn't win last season should just fold, because the past guarantees the future.

This does not apply to sports. World events? Sure. History repeats itself over and over again.

That is about an unnuanced simple minded statement as a person can make. How do bookies make odds? By using the past as a current indicator of future performance.

 

[Evilhomer]

Why? All he has done is paraphrased some nonesense that has been missatributed to Einstein.

I hate that quote with a passion, and it's also not even remotely true. More often than not, doing the same thing over and over again actually does produce a different (i.e., better) result. In the real world, we call it "practice". It's silly to hear that phrase applied to sports, when the real answer is that almost universally a team underperforms because it simply isn't talented enough.

 

[Mess]

That is about an unnuanced simple minded statement as a person can make. How do bookies make odds? By using the past as a current indicator of future performance.

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[Gary Nylund]

What’s more likely; Reaves changes the group or Reaves ends up hating the group?

From a rational, objective POV, more likely he ends up hating the group.

From an irrational, homer POV - plan the parade!

 

[keonsbitterness]

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[TMLBlueandWhite]

I hate that quote with a passion, and it's also not even remotely true. More often than not, doing the same thing over and over again actually does produce a different (i.e., better) result. In the real world, we call it "practice". It's silly to hear that phrase applied to sports, when the real answer is that almost universally a team underperforms because it simply isn't talented enough.

That quote is from NA.

It's one of the first things you learn in any 12 step program. In Shanahan's case I think it applies better to stupidity. If you turn to page 112 of the big book of AA and follow the instructions provided by the first three words the answers to all your problems will be found there.

I understand what you are trying to say.

Practicing gets you a different result. Because over time you improve. But to be fair I think you are a bit misguided.

You practice to gain consistency - the same results over the long run.

That's why a pitcher will throw hundreds of pitches every day. Or why a hustler take thousands of cue strokes. Or a running back performs the same drills over and over and over.

If wouldn't make much sense to practice if the results were unpredictable.

 

[Gallagbi]

That quote is from NA.

It's one of the first things you learn in any 12 step program. In Shanahan's case I think it applies better to stupidity. If you turn to page 112 of the big book of AA and follow the instructions provided by the first three words the answers to all your problems will be found there.

I understand what you are trying to say.

Practicing gets you a different result. Because over time you improve. But to be fair I think you are a bit misguided.

You practice to gain consistency - the same results over the long run.

That's why a pitcher will throw hundreds of pitches every day. Or why a hustler take thousands of cue strokes. Or a running back performs the same drills over and over and over.

If wouldn't make much sense to practice if the results were unpredictable.

If consistency is the goal, you could just stop trying and practicing. Youll get a consistent (and poor) result.

When you say you want to improve consistency, you mean you want better results. Most people fail a skill the first time they try, repeated attempts leads to succcess and then youre generally restarting the process again at a higher level where they fail then eventually master.

In the sports world, Ive always considered it an experiment more than simulation. You come in with a hypothesis, try it, and adjust slightly from there until you eventually determine a conclusion.

The whole misattributed Einstein quote is nonsensical with the variables in sports, which is why results fluctuate so much

 

[Evilhomer]

That quote is from NA.

It's one of the first things you learn in any 12 step program. In Shanahan's case I think it applies better to stupidity. If you turn to page 112 of the big book of AA and follow the instructions provided by the first three words the answers to all your problems will be found there.

I understand what you are trying to say.

Practicing gets you a different result. Because over time you improve. But to be fair I think you are a bit misguided.

You practice to gain consistency - the same results over the long run.

That's why a pitcher will throw hundreds of pitches every day. Or why a hustler take thousands of cue strokes. Or a running back performs the same drills over and over and over.

If wouldn't make much sense to practice if the results were unpredictable.

When I learn a new song on guitar I play it over and over again until I get the result that I want, but I don't keep switching up guitars in the hope that a new guitar will make my left and right hands do what they need to do. Now, of course, this hardly a perfect analogy. But nor is the idea that switching out player A for player B will result in a better outcome, especially if player B is less talented than player A.

Again, if Nylander could be traded for an equally talented player in a more impactful position (i.e., defense), then by all means go for it. But that is a risky, and likely unavailable, proposition. The idea of trading Nylander for some future value at the deadline, however, is lunacy.

 

[Hellcat]

When I learn a new song on guitar I play it over and over again until I get the result that I want, but I don't keep switching up guitars in the hope that a new guitar will make my left and right hands do what they need to do. Now, of course, this hardly a perfect analogy. But nor is the idea that switching out player A for player B will result in a better outcome, especially if player B is less talented than player A.

Again, if Nylander could be traded for an equally talented player in a more impactful position (i.e., defense), then by all means go for it. But that is a risky, and likely unavailable, proposition. The idea of trading Nylander for some future value at the deadline, however, is lunacy.

Agreed not perfect, you are not really doing the same thing over and over again when you learn a song, you adjust your hand/fingers to stop fret buzz, you slow down your pace to make sure you have the right chords, do you repeat sections (Intro, outro, chorus, etc.) vs practicing vs the entire song over and over again, do you look for ways to play the song that suit your abilities, do you use the "Full" four string G or the classic three string G ... are you playing a cheater vs the full chord, do you always use the same pick, go to a softer pick or use a thicker pick? Most people that I know, including myself, that play guitar constantly experiment, when learning new songs.

Switching player A for player B is more nuanced than just skill for skill evaluation, are you saving cap that allows you to sign better talent? Are you getting a young player that has years to control, is it a young blue chipper that will eventually develop, etc.? If Nylander has not signed by the deadline, letting him walk for nothing to UFA status is lunacy.

 

[Evilhomer]

Agreed not perfect, you are not really doing the same thing over and over again when you learn a song, you adjust your hand/fingers to stop fret buzz, you slow down your pace to make sure you have the right chords, do you repeat sections (Intro, outro, chorus, etc.) vs practicing vs the entire song over and over again, do you look for ways to play the song that suit your abilities, do you use the "Full" four string G or the classic three string G ... are you playing a cheater vs the full chord, do you always use the same pick, go to a softer pick or use a thicker pick? Most people that I know, including myself, that play guitar constantly experiment, when learning new songs.

Switching player A for player B is more nuanced than just skill for skill evaluation, are you saving cap that allows you to sign better talent? Are you getting a young player that has years to control, is it a young blue chipper that will eventually develop, etc.? If Nylander has not signed by the deadline, letting him walk for nothing to UFA status is lunacy.

I'm a four finger G guy. Purely muscle memory. I actually think it would be harder for me to play an open chord G with three fingers at this point. It's like an F chord - everyone has their preferred way of playing an open F. I typically revert to a barre chord F, but if I go open chords it's always a four finger F. Always feels like an easier transition to C.

 

[al secord]

That quote is from NA.

It's one of the first things you learn in any 12 step program. In Shanahan's case I think it applies better to stupidity. If you turn to page 112 of the big book of AA and follow the instructions provided by the first three words the answers to all your problems will be found there.

I understand what you are trying to say.

Practicing gets you a different result. Because over time you improve. But to be fair I think you are a bit misguided.

You practice to gain consistency - the same results over the long run.

That's why a pitcher will throw hundreds of pitches every day. Or why a hustler take thousands of cue strokes. Or a running back performs the same drills over and over and over.

If wouldn't make much sense to practice if the results were unpredictable.

Your tear ducts must be working overdrive

 

[LeafChief]

This thread is really, really dumb.

 

[Hellcat]

I'm a four finger G guy. Purely muscle memory. I actually think it would be harder for me to play an open chord G with three fingers at this point. It's like an F chord - everyone has their preferred way of playing an open F. I typically revert to a barre chord F, but if I go open chords it's always a four finger F. Always feels like an easier transition to C.

so you are a rocker ... ... Love talking with other people about guitar,

This thread is really, really dumb.

People are not allowed to express their opinions? Is it dumb because the Leafs have been inept for over 50 years and some fans are gowning numb to this franchise? To say its dumb comes from a very myopic place.

 

[Nineteen67]

The most exciting thing about this season is watching Bedard to see if he’s a stud or just a really good player.

 

[rojac]

Because cup final between Montreal and Winnipeg is a financial disaster to NHL.

Well, it may be a disaster to TNT or ESPN/ABC. The NHL gets the same amount of money regardless of who plays in the final. All ad money goes to the broadcasters. Now, theoretically, I suppose a string of poorly rated finals could affect the amount of money that the NHL gets in their next contracts which I think comes in 4 years and those dealsmay be affected by a lot bigger factors than the rating.

It's also important to remember that when networks purchase the rights to broadcast the NHL, they have very likely taken into account the possibility of long runs by teams who are unlikely to get high rating.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

so you are a rocker ... ... Love talking with other people about guitar,



People are not allowed to express their opinions? Is it dumb because the Leafs have been inept for over 50 years and some fans are gowning numb to this franchise? To say its dumb comes from a very myopic place.

Ya, you seem like you're wearing a gown too tight.

I wouldn't say you're numb to it though, you feel as mad about it as ever, where numbness is a lack of feeling.

Everyone is allowed to express their opinion. You have expressed yours as have those you are responding to; are you saying people who don't agree with you or who think your opinion is dumb are not allowed to express their opinions?
To say it's myopic to think some of the complaining here is 'dumb' is, imo, to use a 5$ word you vaguely understand to feel smart.

 

[Nineteen67]

Well, it may be a disaster to TNT or ESPN/ABC. The NHL gets the same amount of money regardless of who plays in the final. All ad money goes to the broadcasters. Now, theoretically, I suppose a string of poorly rated finals could affect the amount of money that the NHL gets in their next contracts which I think comes in 4 years and those dealsmay be affected by a lot bigger factors than the rating.

It's also important to remember that when networks purchase the rights to broadcast the NHL, they have very likely taken into account the possibility of long runs by teams who are unlikely to get high rating.

The Rangers Chicago Detroit Boston Pitt and Philly are the only teams that draw any meaningful numbers.
The sport is more regional than Baseball

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'm a four finger G guy. Purely muscle memory. I actually think it would be harder for me to play an open chord G with three fingers at this point. It's like an F chord - everyone has their preferred way of playing an open F. I typically revert to a barre chord F, but if I go open chords it's always a four finger F. Always feels like an easier transition to C.

If you're playing electric, the two finger G comes in handy - muting the A string is a good idea IMO, makes it sound less muddy.

I'm not a very good player but recently I started playing a 5 string version of the F chord. Pinky covers the top 2 strings, middle finger is on the G and 4/5th fingers on the A/D strings and the bottom E is muted. It was surprisingly easy to get used to that and transitioning between that and the C chord is also super easy, give it a try, you might find you like it. 4 string seems a bit too light and the barre chord version doesn't feel right to me either, not when playing electric anyway. JMHO.

 

[Evilhomer]

so you are a rocker ... ... Love talking with other people about guitar,

I've started using a lot of alternate tunings lately. It's been a good way to re-teach myself different chord positionings, and it's amazing to hear the new sounds that can be created.