Player Discussion Thomas Chabot (D) Part 2

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Idk I think I'd trade him for Nurse.

Brings a different element, more physical and stronger. It's shocking how weak Chabot is.

But I don't think Edmonton would do it would they?

No way. That's absurd. Darnell Nurse arguably has the worst contract in the NHL.

 

[sena]

I think this is a massive part of our problem now - the goal(plan) with Dorion/Melnyck became signing the core of the rebuild. Didn’t matter if these guys weren’t good enough, because that’s all they had and all they could get,L and all they could sell, ao honestly evaluating these young players and their shortcomings became a non-issue because without locking up the core you promised everything in the rebound would be a failure.

Now we have some overpaid players which isn’t a big deal - the massive problem is we have players that just aren’t good enough signed long term to big money. Massive problem

It was a try to make fans happy because they have not kept or paid anyone for a while.
Never listen to the fans or you will be on of them

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Chabot is better than Nurse.

I don't think it's that clear cut.

And Nurse is just nastier, we could use that more than Chabot. So even if he is worse than Chabot, he could make our team harder to play.

No way. That's absurd. Darnell Nurse arguably has the worst contract in the NHL.

So is Chabot lol.

 

[sena]

I don't think it's that clear cut.

And Nurse is just nastier, we could use that more than Chabot. So even if he is worse than Chabot, he could make our team harder to play.


So is Chabot lol.

Nurse's contract is way to long. It's funny Brady's contract seems like it will end too soon and Chabots is lasting forever......
I also dont think its that clear cut.

 

[NyQuil]

Nurse is even more gaffe prone than Chabot.

 

[TkachukMyAho]

Chabot gets a lot of hate here but he really makes things click when he's moving. I think there would be an awful lot of disappointment if he was swapped for Nurse...

 

[Flamingo]

oh man. methinks Chabot's gaffes are being overblown. He played pretty well in the Kings game, imo.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I don't think it's that clear cut.

And Nurse is just nastier, we could use that more than Chabot. So even if he is worse than Chabot, he could make our team harder to play.


So is Chabot lol.

I mean, I think that's bullshit and Edmonton has basically been my team #2 through this god awful rebuild, so I feel confident in that, but without getting in to the players themselves, Nurse has 5 years after this one at 9.25 mil cap hit compared to Chabot's 3 years left at 8 mil. It would be so foolish for any team to take his contract.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I mean, I think that's bullshit and Edmonton has basically been my team #2 through this god awful rebuild, so I feel confident in that, but without getting in to the players themselves, Nurse has 5 years after this one at 9.25 mil cap hit compared to Chabot's 3 years left at 8 mil. It would be so foolish for any team to take his contract.

yea didn't know Nurse was that long, was just comparing cap hits. Nurse is also older too. goes till like 35 lol.

 

[Icelevel]

oh man. methinks Chabot's gaffes are being overblown. He played pretty well in the Kings game, imo.

I don’t think they’re overblown but I agree he had a better game against la

He’s good when he’s moving up ice. Not good in our end.

 

[Flamingo]

I don’t think they’re overblown but I agree he had a better game against la

He’s good when he’s moving up ice. Not good in our end.

He looked good in our end too, imo.

Sanderson let a Kings player screen Soogard uncontested, standing right beside him, on the Fiala goal. If Chabot had done that, there would be two pages of critical posts, the Sportsnet highlights would zoom in on Chabby's separation from the Kings player, and people would be lamenting the loss of Branny.

 

[Loach]

I don’t think they’re overblown but I agree he had a better game against la

He’s good when he’s moving up ice. Not good in our end.

He's good when the games a discombobulated gong show. As soon as it gets organized he gets worse.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

yea didn't know Nurse was that long, was just comparing cap hits. Nurse is also older too. goes till like 35 lol.

Ya that one is a major woofer. There's been numerous threads about how to dump him and there's very little out there that makes any sense for the other team. It made little sense when it was signed and even worse today lol.

 

[DueDiligence]

I don't think it's that clear cut.

And Nurse is just nastier, we could use that more than Chabot. So even if he is worse than Chabot, he could make our team harder to play.


So is Chabot lol.

Chabot worst contract in the NHL? Not a chance. Ideally he should be a $5 million dollar second pairing guy.

 

[Big Muddy]

Given the Nurse versus Chabot discussion, maybe this helps.

Rates

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

Relative

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

Some selected stats are presented in the next post.

 

[Big Muddy]

Rates Stat	Nurse	Chabot
CF/60	65.43	65.08
CA/60	58.06	59.08
GF/60	2.54	2.97
GA/60	2.54	3.35
Def Zone Starts/60	17.53	14.39

Relative Stats

Relative Stat	Nurse	Chabot
GF/60 Rel	- 0.57	0.79
GA/60 Rel	0.41	0.52
xGF/60 Rel	- 0.19	0.28
xGA/60 Rel	.36	.08

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

A lot of the problems with Chabot come down to two things...icetime and the complacency thing. He works best with managed minutes, and hopefully that will happen this year, as we're getting better depth wise. The icewater in the veins....there are definite times when it is needed, but he also has to develop a sense of urgency when that is needed as well. Ice is good...fire and ice is better.

 

[Frank8]

Despite his flaws, there's still a very real chance a healthy Chabot flirts with a 60 point season. The situation reminds me a bit of Letang a decade ago - a lot of Pittsburgh fans had similar frustrations when he couldn't stay healthy.