Post-Game Talk: This team has a problem in net

[Throttlehead]

13-5-2 and .921 in his last 20 games coming into tonight isn’t though.

Just imagine if we had a good goalie, that would be a .940

We play scared with Skinner unlike other good teams who have a legit goal tender. We dont allow a lot of shots and certainly not a lot of high quality shots. Those games (like today) where 1, 2, 3 cheezy goals scored in the first period put us at a huge disadvantage of playing our game, not to mention what it does to the spirit on the team. He just can't make a save when its needed the most, nor can he go 2 to 3 games in a row making saves he should save. We need a GD goalie and have always needed a GD goalie, we are not winning a cup with Skinner. Even our last run required the backup to get us out of the toughest series. If Bowman has a brain he'll not worry about another dman, go snag a top goalie such as Saros. With the cap going up its the perfect time.

 

[Senor Catface]

This blame management not Skinner is the dumbest thing I've heard.

Life isn't that black and white, you binary bland [redacted]. I can blame both at the same time.

Somehow two Skinner defenders have been more embarrassing than GMOilers' Skinner takes. Congrats.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

I’m not saying it’s whatever.

I’m saying the biggest reason McDavid doesn’t have a cup is McDavid. Unless you think skinner should have let in less than 3 goals the rest of the series when we were down 3-2?

I think you need to take a break, man.

Then maybe read this in the morning.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Trash. Another classic Oilers pickup.

This, HFOil, is classic Keith.

Whine, bitch and moan incessantly that the Oilers make no moves (even though they do).

And then when they do pick up a low-risk, high-reward type player, Keith complains about the player after TWO GAMES where I actually thought he looked pretty decent after more than a year out.

 

[KCC]

Leafs barely hold on but you can't go down 3-0 and expect to win games

Tough to win when your goalie can't stop a beach ball. Skinner is like usual so inconsistent. Hot take but promote pikard as a starter. I guarantee you he would be an upgrade. Even if he’s average that’s all the team needs. But obviously that won’t happen. Edm will never win with skinner. Last year was their best chance despite him blowing so many games for them in the playoffs.

 

[Fourier]

My issue with Skinner is this...Can they win with him in net? Yes I believe they can, but his inconsistencies mean that there is absolutely no room for error. They need to win virtually every game that he gives them a chance in. And even them when they have done that series have gone too long.

Game 7 was a perfect example. Tough to blame the goalie if your team only scores 1 goal. But that second goal was a killer. If he stops that I think there is a legitimate chance that the Oilers overcome their inability to beat Bob and win that game. But maybe the real point is that they should never have gotten to that point had he played better in the first three games. Fuhr winning game one of the 84 final was huge. Even though the Oilers lost Game two that performance was an absolute key to the series win.

At the absolute top end winning is often a fine line. Sure he did have the odd game where he was the reason they won. But the emphasis here is on "odd".

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Are Skinner Stans forgetting he hired a shrink last season due to crumbling under pressure?

The guy isn't far off from being a Jack Campbell mental disaster. He just has a better poker face

Better moustache you mean.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Honestly think it might be better to not even win the division even though that may bite us in the ass later on.

A 1st round against like Colorado or Minnesota wouldn't be much of a "reward".

Bring on the AVS.

 

[Jarvi]

Ok a tad off topic, but why the in the hell did Dallas trade that Jonkic dude to LA. For a guy who doesn't watch a ton of basketball

The Mavs were sold to some dirt bags who are cheap. Doncic is due a supermax contract in a season or 2, as well as other re-signings they will need to make that would put them into luxury tax. Also, Doncic has had "conditioning issues". They apparently wanted better defense and a Center.

It's a braindead move. Doncic is a top 5 player in his prime, and AD is nearly 32. Mavs also made the finals last year and very well could have this year. Might be the biggest, and worst trade in NBA history that doesn't involve like picks or prospects that ended up way overshooting expectations. Imagine if we had of traded Draisaitl in the covid year for like, Pietrangelo.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Skinners stats in the first ten mins must be. Awful? Seems when he struggles it’s early in games and the oilers are chasing the rest of the way. It’s going to cost them

 

[tardigrade81]

Maybe the rangers can help us out today and beat the Knights

 

[CupofOil]

I don’t follow the NBA at all, who would be the Gretzky in that trade?

Luka Doncic isn't Gretzky level obviously (Jordan is the NBA comp) but just in terms of the overall shock of it like when you say to yourself that there's no way this just happened, it can't be real. We said that on the day of the Hall trade but Luka is like ten levels higher than that.

And, yeah, I know this is an Oilers forum so it should be OT but it's just one of those trades you see maybe a few times in a lifetime that you have to share with your friends and I can consider you crazy mothef***as my cyber friends, most of you anyway

 

[Stoneman89]

Skinner has been bad in too many games, no question, blah,blah,blah. But what is up with our offence? Nearly 100 shots the last 2 games, and 5 goals? And in the prior ones, we had leads but had all kinds of trouble extending them despite some heavy shot discrepancy, leading to some very tight end of game shivers. Becoming the "gang that couldn't shoot straight."

 

[MessierII]

I think you need to take a break, man.

Then maybe read this in the morning.

I’ve thought the same thing since game 7 ended man. One more sleep isn’t going to change my mind.

 

[brentashton]

Skinner has been bad in too many games, no question, blah,blah,blah. But what is up with our offence? Nearly 100 shots the last 2 games, and 5 goals? And in the prior ones, we had leads but had all kinds of trouble extending them despite some heavy shot discrepancy, leading to some very tight end of game shivers. Becoming the "gang that couldn't shoot straight."

I seriously think Skinner is in their heads. I know he’s in mine and in a lot of fans, as being questionable.

They seem to grip the stick, get pass happy when he’s in net, looking for the perfect shot. It’s as if they too know that every goal is going to be needed (so make every shot count) because Skinner will (or more often, has already early in the game) let in a couple of questionable shots.

As stated by others, he was the weak link last year in the SCF and shows no signs of shoring up his significant lack of consistency, week to week, game to game, period to period, shot to shot this year.

Not a fan.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Skinner has been bad in too many games, no question, blah,blah,blah. But what is up with our offence? Nearly 100 shots the last 2 games, and 5 goals? And in the prior ones, we had leads but had all kinds of trouble extending them despite some heavy shot discrepancy, leading to some very tight end of game shivers. Becoming the "gang that couldn't shoot straight."

Finish has been an issue lately

 

[McFlash97]

Just imagine if we had a good goalie, that would be a .940

We play scared with Skinner unlike other good teams who have a legit goal tender. We dont allow a lot of shots and certainly not a lot of high quality shots. Those games (like today) where 1, 2, 3 cheezy goals scored in the first period put us at a huge disadvantage of playing our game, not to mention what it does to the spirit on the team. He just can't make a save when its needed the most, nor can he go 2 to 3 games in a row making saves he should save. We need a GD goalie and have always needed a GD goalie, we are not winning a cup with Skinner. Even our last run required the backup to get us out of the toughest series. If Bowman has a brain he'll not worry about another dman, go snag a top goalie such as Saros. With the cap going up its the perfect time.

A legit star goaltending behind our stingy defense will look like Hellebyuck.

Our advanced stats are good enough. That first period cannot happen. However it does quite often with Skinner.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The whole "well we made the Finals in 2024, so it means we're gaurunteed a spot in 2025" shit also needs to stop. That isn't how this works.

For all we know this year you might not get as fortunate of a run of wishy washy goaltenders playing against you until the Finals. There's no guarantee of that whatsoever. Last year we did get fortunate in that regard.

So I guess we aren’t really a great team after all, we were just lucky last year. Got it.

 

[Missing smitty]

I’ve thought the same thing since game 7 ended man. One more sleep isn’t going to change my mind.

So you're just clueless?

Blame the best player of this generation who broke records, but not the mediocre goaltender who tried his best to lose in the second round?

A legit star goaltending behind our stingy defense will look like Hellebyuck.

Our advanced stats are good enough. That first period cannot happen. However it does quite often with Skinner.

Look at Swayman last year and now. Good defense can make a goalie look incredible, unless that goalie is mediocre, then defense can make him look average...

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This, HFOil, is classic Keith.

Whine, bitch and moan incessantly that the Oilers make no moves (even though they do).

And then when they do pick up a low-risk, high-reward type player, Keith complains about the player after TWO GAMES where I actually thought he looked pretty decent after more than a year out.

Shuffling deck chairs isn’t going to move the needle. Kapanen is already a healthy scratch.

Either upgrade the goaltending or get someone who can actually finish.

 

[VeteranPresence]

This, HFOil, is classic Keith.

Whine, bitch and moan incessantly that the Oilers make no moves (even though they do).

And then when they do pick up a low-risk, high-reward type player, Keith complains about the player after TWO GAMES where I actually thought he looked pretty decent after more than a year out.

Klingberg's "reward" is a #5 defender who can quarterback the 2nd PP. We didn't really need that. We sure as hell don't need that over a goalie, proven and reliable #4, and a middle six winger. The same goes for Kapanen (bottom six winger) and Regula (#6/7 D whenever healthy).

Bowman is either opposed to making or unable to make more substantial deals. Neither is good for the org at this point in their competitive window. If Stan wasn't ready to come in and part with good futures for good assets- or if he’s such damaged goods in the GM fraternity that no one wants to deal with him- he's not the right guy, and needs to be replaced Monday morning. Waiver claims aren’t gonna cut it.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

In the Matthews-Marner-Nylander era, the Maple Leafs have a better record against the Oilers than any other opponent: 19-4-2.

There’s a stat for you. Just can’t beat the mighty Leafs.

 

[soothsayer]

The whole "well we made the Finals in 2024, so it means we're gaurunteed a spot in 2025" shit also needs to stop. That isn't how this works.

For all we know this year you might not get as fortunate of a run of wishy washy goaltenders playing against you until the Finals. There's no guarantee of that whatsoever. Last year we did get fortunate in that regard.

Or the team you're playing against's best scorer doesn't get a blood clot right before game 7. There are too many variables to take for granted that obvious weaknesses won't be fatal in the playoffs. I've said it before, but there is virtually no chance the Oilers make it back to the finals and win with a .901 save %, unless they bring in a no-doubter top pairing d-man. And even then...

 

[MessierII]

So you're just clueless?

Blame the best player of this generation who broke records, but not the mediocre goaltender who tried his best to lose in the second round?

What is your argument that McDavid played well putting up goose eggs in games 6 and 7 first two consecutive games pointless in the playoff run vs skinner who let in 3 goals between the two games?

Genuinely curious?

 

[GMofOilers]

Difference is he makes 2 million bucks for one more year, is in his mid 20’s and still got about as close as you can get to winning the cup without winning. Obviously this wasn’t a strong game but it’s magnified because the team has a 5.25 shooting% and is making every goalie look like Hasek. Skinners has overall been solid for most of this season. That is a fact.

He’s 19W 15L

Without Pickard we are out of the playoffs lol