Post-Game Talk: This team has a problem in net

[MessierII]

We weren't last year, we peaked in about Feb regular season wise.

Also you can't ignore this shit being a factor:

This is a major problem.

We got 49 points in the first 41 games last year and 53 in the second so yeah we were better in the back half. We have been every year for a while now.

No it's not that will win us a cup. Just need 97 to put up 5 points a game. Easy Peazy.

How about 1 point in game 7

 

[foshizzle]

you know what I meant


and the Oilers best forwards didn't score....is the Oilers strength offense or goaltending?

No, I dont know what you mean,

We aren't talking about the Oilers strengths, I'm asking you a simple question- why didn't the Oilers forwards score in those games you mentioned? Let's add further context- what was Bob's save % in those games? Did the opposition goalie make those saves? What were the expected goals in those games?

I mean, your whole argument is that the Oilers lost because Bob stopped the Oilers best shooters- and this is somehow a defense of Skinner? Makes no sense.

0 points in games 6 and 7
Skinner gave up 3 whole goals in 2 games...how dare he

Again- you're argument is that Skinner allowed 3 goals while Bob saved all the shots against that he was supposed to. lol.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

We got 49 points in the first 41 games last year and 53 in the second so yeah we were better in the back half. We have been every year for a while now.


How about 1 point in game 7

How many points did Crosby put up his first 2 finals. Or his one

McDavid has as many points in his first Stanley Cup Final as Crosby does in his first two Cup Final series wins combined (despite playing in 9 fewer games)​

Where you boys want to go with this one?

I am guessing SILENCE

 

[foshizzle]

We got 49 points in the first 41 games last year and 53 in the second so yeah we were better in the back half. We have been every year for a while now.


How about 1 point in game 7

Bob made the saves.

 

[Soundwave]

We got 49 points in the first 41 games last year and 53 in the second so yeah we were better in the back half. We have been every year for a while now.


How about 1 point in game 7

It would be hard to not be better in the 2nd half in that case because they started freaking 2-9-1 or whatever that was and were 2nd last in the league at one point.

We lost 4/5 last games going into the playoffs last year.

 

[foshizzle]

yes, I think is a fine 1A...why does that bother you so much?
would I like Shesterkin/Hellebuyck/Oetinger? of course, but they're not coming here

By what standard? Can't be his ranking amongst NHL goalies. It's fine that you THINK he is a fine 1A- there just isnt evidence to back you up. Kind of like my son believing in Santa Claus

 

[MessierII]

Bob made the saves.

It’s game 7 you either find a way or you don’t. McDavid found a way to pointless in two straight games for the first time the playoffs in games 6 and 7 of the final. Meanwhile Stuart skinner lets in 3 total goals between games 6 and 7 of the Stanley cup final but it’s not possible to win with him.

 

[Soundwave]

How many points did Crosby put up his first 2 finals. Or his one

McDavid has as many points in his first Stanley Cup Final as Crosby does in his first two Cup Final series wins combined (despite playing in 9 fewer games)​

Where you boys want to go with this one?

I am guessing SILENCE

Crosby would have 0 Cups in McDavid's place, everyone and their grandma knows it deep down too.

The goaltending Pittsburgh had is the difference between having 3 Cups versus 0.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

It’s game 7 you either find a way or you don’t. McDavid found a way to pointless in two straight games for the first time the playoffs in games 6 and 7 of the final. Meanwhile Stuart skinner lets in 3 total goals between games 6 and 7 of the Stanley cup final but it’s not possible to win with him.

He had a babysitter to get us there.

 

[MessierII]

He had a babysitter to get us there.

When you’ve ran out of facts……

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Crosby would have 0 Cups in McDavid's place, everyone and their grandma knows it deep down too.

The goaltending Pittsburgh had is the difference between having 3 Cups versus 0.

nobody acknowledges this stat. It's insane

 

[foshizzle]

I am convinced this guy is 11 years old or just likes trolling now. An 11 year olds brain isn't fully functional yet.

I can't explain it.

So far his arguments have been:

Bob made saves so it's not Stuart's fault
Colorado and Tampa play hockey so it's not Stuarts fault
Stuart is 2-9-2 against the top 10 teams with an .870 save % so that makes him a 1A

I think he just plain likes Stuart- which he is completely free to do. Any other argument is not supported by facts

 

[CanadasTeam99]

When you’ve ran out of facts……

??

He had a babysitter

I understand a game in a vacuum, but you are telling me 97 breaking a playoff record was whatever?

Asinine

 

[foshizzle]

When you’ve ran out of facts……

lol- what?

 

[Soundwave]

nobody acknowledges this stat. It's insane

I honestly don't know how many Gretzky even would have if you remove Fuhr and give them like a 25th best goalie in the league + remove Kurri and Anderson say (still has Messier and Coffey).

They still lost in 83 to the Islanders and 86 to the Flames and damn near to the Flyers in 87, so it's not like they were invincible, you take away those pieces, I think maybe you get 1 Cup, 2 max, but definitely not 4.

What McDavid is being asked to do is so much harder than any of these other guys.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Anybody answer me this

How do you like Skinners stats against top 10 teams this year?

Is that a proponent to success?

 

[McAsuno]

So far his arguments have been:

Bob made saves so it's not Stuart's fault
Colorado and Tampa play hockey so it's not Stuarts fault
Stuart is 2-9-2 against the top 10 teams with an .870 save % so that makes him a 1A

I think he just plain likes Stuart- which he is completely free to do. Any other argument is not supported by facts

That’s why I don’t get why anybody can defend Skinner still. The Oilers are a top team. The defense has been relatively fine despite still needing a legitimate top four d man too. But goaltending? Holy f***. The fact that skinner can’t even be average is just stunning. Even average goaltending nets this team more wins and points right now.

 

[MessierII]

??

He had a babysitter

I understand a game in a vacuum, but you are telling me 97 breaking a playoff record was whatever?

Asinine

I’m not saying it’s whatever.

I’m saying the biggest reason McDavid doesn’t have a cup is McDavid. Unless you think skinner should have let in less than 3 goals the rest of the series when we were down 3-2?

 

[Soundwave]

I’m not saying it’s whatever.

I’m saying the biggest reason McDavid doesn’t have a cup is McDavid. Unless you think skinner should have let in less than 3 goals the rest of the series when we were down 3-2?

lol that's bullshit. The biggest reason he doesn't have a Cup is this front office.

 

[MessierII]

That’s why I don’t get why anybody can defend Skinner still. The Oilers are a top team. The defense has been relatively fine despite still needing a legitimate top four d man too. But goaltending? Holy f***. The fact that skinner can’t even be average is just stunning. Even average goaltending nets this team more wins and points right now.

Stuart skinner was 13-5-2 with a .921 save % in his previous 20 starts before this game.

 

[Soundwave]

Stuart skinner was 13-5-2 with a .921 save % in his previous 20 starts before this game.

Do you want to address this:

Then?

 

[foshizzle]

It’s game 7 you either find a way or you don’t. McDavid found a way to pointless in two straight games for the first time the playoffs in games 6 and 7 of the final. Meanwhile Stuart skinner lets in 3 total goals between games 6 and 7 of the Stanley cup final but it’s not possible to win with him.

Lol, so Bob found a way to make saves. Stuart didnt. It's game 7- you either find a way or you don't. Bob found a way- Stuart didnt.

Stuart also posted a historic low for a winning goalie in the Vancouver series 0.833. He is amongst the worst goalies in the cap era to have played atleast 20 games in the cap era. How many goals did the Oilers score in game 6? Argue all you want, facts dont agree with you

 

[MessierII]

lol that's bullshit. The biggest reason he doesn't have a Cup is this front office.

The team and front office was good enough to require him to play 1 game to win a cup.

 

[Soundwave]

Lol, so Bob found a way to make saves. Stuart didnt. It's game 7- you either find a way or you don't. Bob found a way- Stuart didnt.

Stuart also posted a historic low for a winning goalie in the Vancouver series 0.833. He is amongst the worst goalies in the cap era to have played atleast 20 games in the cap era. How many goals did the Oilers score in game 6? Argue all you want, facts dont agree with you

 

[McAsuno]

Stuart skinner was 13-5-2 with a .921 save % in his previous 20 starts before this game.

I mean that’s good and all, but him being .872 SV%, 2-9-2, -8 GSAX, and 3.38 GAA/G against top 10 teams speaks more volume. Skinner isn’t the guy suitable to be the #1 goalie for this team to win the cup