Post-Game Talk: This team has a problem in net

[VeteranPresence]

yes....are you really gonna tell me that if you knew Skinner would only give up 3 goals in Game 6 and 7 and we had McDavid and Draisaitl on our team that we would lose the Cup?

Nope, bad @CantHaveTkachev, no cherry picking. You have to look at their entire playoff performances. No “but but these two games!!!!112!!” nonsense. (Especially since the games you want to use keep changing depending on what you’re trying to argue from one minute to the next)

You have one player who led the playoffs in scoring. You have a goalie who had the worst save percentage of any to reach the Finals in the modern game. Which performed worse?

We can keep doing this, or you can admit you’re advancing a flawed argument. Your choice.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Like Christ just get them one more backbone

Nope, bad @CantHaveTkachev, no cherry picking. You have to look at their entire playoff performances. No “but but these two games!!!!112!!” nonsense.

You have one player who led the playoffs in scoring. You have a goalie who had the worst save percentage of any to reach the Finals in the modern game. Which performed worse?

We can keep doing this, or you can admit you’re advancing a flawed argument. Your choice.

These arguments don't work here.

The two guys who we all know took them to the journey get sh** on

That is why you have to find other solutions. They aren't Machines

Did Jordan win every year?

Stop settling for crap players

 

[McTedi]

Yeah ... how many Cups did Gretzky and Lemieux and Crosby and Ovechkin win with a Stuart Skinner tier goalie in net?

I'll wait.

But yeah we're supposed to be thrilled that instead of just properly building a team we are instead fixated on being a science experiment of how shitty of a goalie can you have and still win with?

The Oilers came damn close to winning the cup with Skinner. Vegas won with Hill. It has, can and will be done again by another team. Your goalie will falter occasionally over the course of 4 series, it is inevitable. Is Skinner the guy? If the Oilers mgmt. doesn't pick up a goalie at he TDL, then they obviously think so. I think he can play better but struggles with consistency and focus so I would like there to be a solid 2nd choice...not sure Pic, for as well as he has played, is that guy.

 

[Soundwave]

Yeah apparently we lost the Final because of the guy who won the Conn Smythe trophy (first forward in like 50 years to have done that on the losing side) and broke Wayne Gretzky's playoff assist record ... the .901 goalie was all good babbeeee!

Can't argue with that air tight logic.

 

[MessierII]

No, you have a right to think that. But why do our top guys (WHO TOOK US TO THAT FINAL) get sh** on?

I crap on them too in the reg season. They put us in that position to even get there

And Stuart skinner put them in a position where they had to produce anything and we win the cup. They didn’t produce. McDavid has had a fantastic career but in the two biggest game of his career his stat line reads 0 goals 0 assist. Getting us there after going down 0-3 was legendary despite not winning but at the end of the day they had to win one game to win the cup and couldn’t get anything on the board.

 

[Soundwave]

The Oilers came damn close to winning the cup with Skinner. Vegas won with Hill. It has, can and will be done again by another team. Your goalie will falter occasionally over the course of 4 series, it is inevitable. Is Skinner the guy? If the Oilers mgmt. doesn't pick up a goalie at he TDL, then they obviously think so. I think he can play better but struggles with consistency and focus so I would like there to be a solid 2nd choice...not sure Pic, for as well as he has played, is that guy.

Adin Hill in his Cup run - .932

Stuart Skinner in his Finals run - .901



I don't want to be part of a science experiment on proving that you can win with mediocre goaltending and shit management either. No thanks. Let some other f***ing team prove that, I don't want any part of that nonsense.

I know there's a group of Oiler fans that think that's a great idea to try, but y'all mofos don't speak for all of us. This is a f***ing stupid risk.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Yeah apparently we lost the Final because of the guy who won the Conn Smythe trophy (first forward in like 50 years to have done that on the losing side) and broke Wayne Gretzky's playoff assist record ... the .901 goalie was all good babbeeee!

Can't argue with that air tight logic.

so he's excused from contributing in the final 2 games because "Conn Smythe baby!" LOL
sweet logic
their 50 goal scorer showed up in Game 7 but McDavid is excused because "Conn Smythe" LMAO

Nope, bad @CantHaveTkachev, no cherry picking. You have to look at their entire playoff performances. No “but but these two games!!!!112!!” nonsense. (Especially since the games you want to use keep changing depending on what you’re trying to argue from one minute to the next)

You have one player who led the playoffs in scoring. You have a goalie who had the worst save percentage of any to reach the Finals in the modern game. Which performed worse?

We can keep doing this, or you can admit you’re advancing a flawed argument. Your choice.

dude shows up 6 months ago and starts making rules around here

 

[CanadasTeam99]

The Oilers came damn close to winning the cup with Skinner. Vegas won with Hill. It has, can and will be done again by another team. Your goalie will falter occasionally over the course of 4 series, it is inevitable. Is Skinner the guy? If the Oilers mgmt. doesn't pick up a goalie at he TDL, then they obviously think so. I think he can play better but struggles with consistency and focus so I would like there to be a solid 2nd choice...not sure Pic, for as well as he has played, is that guy.

You need to build your team as if those guys might go cold at some point.

They are not machines

You have to think about every iota of a chance that somebody (or some people) fail or et stoned 10 times in a game 5/6/7

That includes goaltending, defense

Sometimes they win you a game

If you look at the goaltending and think it's good going in, go f*** off

Here is my beef. If you don't even have that mindset, you are cooked

And Stuart skinner put them in a position where they had to produce anything and we win the cup. They didn’t produce. McDavid has had a fantastic career but in the two biggest game of his career his stat line reads 0 goals 0 assist. Getting us there after going down 0-3 was legendary despite not winning but at the end of the day they had to win one game to win the cup and couldn’t get anything on the board.

We wouldn't have even gone this far without these guys.

That is what you don't get. He doesn't get that benefit. He got bailed out

 

[McDoused]

you're right, the Oilers highest paid forwards didn't do theirs

Mcdavid was named the MVP of the playoffs and broke Gretzkys record.

Draisaitl is one of the best playoff performers of our generation.

Bouchard put up numbers that we haven't seen since Paul Coffey and was better than Hughes and Makarnin the playoffs.

What more do you want from them?

Meanwhile Skinner could barely stay afloat with a .901 sv% and had to have a backup goalie come in and save the run.

I just dont get why Skinner get why the bar is so f***ing high for everyone but Skinner. The dude gets special treatment.

 

[Soundwave]

so he's excused from contributing in the final 2 games because "Conn Smythe baby!" LOL
sweet logic
their 50 goal scorer showed up in Game 7 but McDavid is excused because "Conn Smythe" LMAO


dude shows up 6 months ago and starts making rules around here

Reinhart had 1 whopping goal that series until he got a gift goal on a mediocre goalie in game 7, that's a stop that Bob makes in a game 7 all day long.

Everyone and their grandma knew when it was 1-1 that Skinner would crack first and let the next one in, not Bob.

 

[MessierII]

so he's excused from contributing in the final 2 games because "Conn Smythe baby!" LOL
sweet logic
their 50 goal scorer showed up in Game 7 but McDavid is excused because "Conn Smythe" LMAO


dude shows up 6 months ago and starts making rules around here

This is why I can’t get behind the scapegoats for McDavid not having a cup. All McDavid had to do was anything and he has one and didn’t come through. Hockey is a cruel game. Let’s see how McDavid responds this years post season. At the end of the day that’s where the success or failure of season is decided. None of these games right now really mean anything.

 

[McTedi]

They won't do shit, they're too stupid.

They already have set up the excuse which is "we neeeeed more scoring, even if we could get a goalie we can't cuz forwards" as if they aren't the f***ing morons who spent 10 million dollars in the summer on forwards who aren't contributing much and then lost Holloway and Broberg for peanuts in the process.

Adin Hill in his Cup run - .932

Stuart Skinner in his Finals run - .901



I don't want to be part of a science experiment on proving that you can win with mediocre goaltending and shit management either. No thanks. Let some other f***ing team prove that, I don't want any part of that nonsense.

Lol, you always go on a tear when they lose. Don't let me detract you from the fact that team has actually played well lately. Vegas had some good D, that might have put the silk hat on that pig. We shall see what happens at the TDL but suffice to say I don't think it will be as devastatingly bad as you think.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

so he's excused from contributing in the final 2 games because "Conn Smythe baby!" LOL
sweet logic
their 50 goal scorer showed up in Game 7 but McDavid is excused because "Conn Smythe" LMAO


dude shows up 6 months ago and starts making rules around here

So we wouldn't have even gone to round 2 with Skinner, but yes, we did lose b/c we didn't score.

You don't get it.

You do not win the war without your best soldiers bud.

You don't even get to the battlefield (Leon and Connor)

You need the other guys to pull their weight

It's not all on Skinner.

It's the totality of his numbers that I keep harping on

You can't rely on this guy.

Skinner is the police officer who doesn't watch his partners back. That's it.

I should just drop my mic here.

 

[Soundwave]

This is why I can’t get behind the scapegoats for McDavid not having a cup. All McDavid had to do was anything and he has one and didn’t come through. Hockey is a cruel game. Let’s see how McDavid responds this years post season. At the end of the day that’s where the success or failure of season is decided. None of these games right now really mean anything.

This ain't the NBA. One guy can't will his team to a Cup.

Look at how much help Gretzky needed and then he could only make the Finals once (where he got destroyed) without an All-Star team around him after he left here.

If McDavid can win a Cup here it should count as two because none of Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Ovechkin had to put up with this much shit from crap management and all those guys had some of the top goaltending in their respective eras.

This team makes a Cup Final and the management turns around and shits the bed in the off-season immediately. Like how in the f*** can this team not do anything in a half normal fashion. A clown show.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Reinhart had 1 whopping goal that series until he got a gift goal on a mediocre goalie in game 7, that's a stop that Bob makes in a game 7 all day long.

Everyone and their grandma knew when it was 1-1 that Skinner would crack first and let the next one in, not Bob.

and Draisaitl had zero goals

there's not a single goalie out there right now that guarantees the Oilers the Cup

 

[Missing smitty]

This is why I can’t get behind the scapegoats for McDavid not having a cup. All McDavid had to do was anything and he has one and didn’t come through. Hockey is a cruel game. Let’s see how McDavid responds this years post season. At the end of the day that’s where the success or failure of season is decided. None of these games right now really mean anything.

So you'll shit on the best player in the world, but defend a mediocre goalie. You're an idiot.

 

[Soundwave]

and Draisaitl had zero goals

there's not a single goalie out there right now that guarantees the Oilers the Cup

And Skinner significantly raises the chances the Oilers will not win one period in this era. If I'm an Oilers hater my no.1 hope would be that they keep riding Skinner year after year.

So you can either accept that or do something about it but we already know the management here is too stupid.

If Connor can win one carrying this fraud of a goalie to a Cup it should count as two because there's no way Crosby or Ovechkin could do it, nor would Gretzky or Lemieux frankly.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

So we wouldn't have even gone to round 2 with Skinner, but yes, we did lose b/c we didn't score.

You don't get it.

You do not win the war without your best soldiers bud.

You don't even get to the battlefield (Leon and Connor)

You need the other guys to pull their weight

It's not all on Skinner.

It's the totality of his numbers that I keep harping on

You can't rely on this guy.

Skinner is the police officer who doesn't watch his partners back. That's it.

I should just drop my mic here.

but you can rely on him...he was good when the games were the biggest (ie. elimination games)

there's not a single goalie out there that guarantees consistency

hell, Bobroksky wasn't even the starter in 2023 when the Panther made the Cup run and lost to Vegas

 

[MessierII]

This ain't the NBA. One guy can't will his team to a Cup.

Look at how much help Gretzky needed and then he could only make the Finals once (where he got destroyed) without an All-Star team around him after he left here.

If McDavid can win a Cup here it should count as two because none of Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Ovechkin had to put up with this much shit from crap management and all those guys had some of the top goaltending in their respective eras.

This team makes a Cup Final and the management turns around and shits the bed in the off-season immediately. Like how in the f*** can this team not do anything in a half normal fashion. A clown show.

At the end of the day they got to game seven and lost by a goal and McDavid didn’t get any points. The points before are great but when you finish the season going 0-0-0 in games 6 and 7 losing in game 7 then none of it matters. That’s why he didn’t even bother to accept the award. He knows it and that’s why he was such an emotional mess.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

and Draisaitl had zero goals

there's not a single goalie out there right now that guarantees the Oilers the Cup

I am actually floored at what you type about our two best guys.

Mindboggling. What do you do in real life? Because you don't seem that intelligent to me.

You sound like our management.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

So you'll shit on the best player in the world, but defend a mediocre goalie. You're an idiot.

saying Connor didn't score in games 6 and 7 isn't "shitting on him"
its the truth

 

[Soundwave]

At the end of the day they got to game seven and lost by a goal and McDavid didn’t get any points. The points before are great but when you finish the season going 0-0-0 in games 6 and 7 losing in game 7 then none of it matters. That’s why he didn’t even bother to accept the award. He knows it and that’s why he was such an emotional mess.

So how did Crosby and Malkin win their first Cup in 2009 under identical circumstances? What's the difference?

GOAL.

TENDING.

Of the 3 Cups they have, how many would they have with Stu in net? ZERO.

 

[VainGretzky]

Pickard was a star his last game his reward watching Skinner get next 2 starts and losses ,Knob wake up

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I am actually floored at what you type about our two best guys.

Mindboggling. What do you do in real life? Because you don't seem that intelligent to me.

You sound like our management.

Draisaitl literally didn't score in the Finals...why do you hate the truth?

 

[GMofOilers]

There’s still clowns defending not my fault Skinner