Proposal: Third line center to Edmonton

[McSuper]

Bern is the only one who knows what is blue chip in the NHL. How dare you use his word against him

Bern is the only one who knows what is blue chip in the NHL. How dare you use his word against him

Forgive me

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Christian Dvorak

 

[LTIR]

Christian Dvorak

Too expensive to be a 3C.

 

[TFHockey]

Bern wants Broberg? Who, for the Oilers, should be untouchable?



Broberg
Koskinen



Shesterkin

 

[YP44]

Lizotte for a conditional 4th.

May not be the sexy name Oilers fans are after but he is a hard ass worker and I think is an upgrade on Ryan.

 

[LTIR]

Hoping for Mike McLeod out of NJ.

Reunite the brothers as linemates on the 3rd line... They can alternate the 3C duties. Neither is a legit 3C yet but together they will figure it out.

 

[Mister Ed]

I bet the Wings would be willing to give up Pius Suter or Vlad Namestnikov. Both would be good in a 3c role on a good team. This would likely be closer to the deadline, assuming they're out of the picture by then.

Gagner is very available but doubt he is of any interest to any team.

Namestnikov, sure. Suter, I would rather not.

Suter is signed for another year and is just starting to mesh with Fabbri and Zadina.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Namestnikov @50% (1 million)

for

Turris
Edmonton 2023 3rd

 

[bernmeister]

Someone actually thinks Rooney is sufficient enough for a trade for Broberg? LMFAO

1:1 -- hell no, I never said that/went there.
part of a package? yes, if rest of the package is enuf/works.

1 - why would we be looking for picks
2 - your point stands
3 - You definitely misunderstood the OP, he was talking about Derek Ryan not Nuge (though it doesn’t change the basis of the thread, we’d like a 3C)
4-6 None of those guys interest us….. maybe Georgiev a bit but goalies are so flaky; right now Skinner looks better than him (small sample size)

Sorry Bern, Broberg is going nowhere. Near untouchable.

Appreciate the clarifications incl as to #3.

I explain the rationale here:
Oil
- want 3C
- have another thread about Nurse for G.
So net minder upgrade/depth in order.
Geo is not Shesty level upgrade, but
- Kosk is 33, so a younger guy going forward, while not an immediate need, is sensible. Also not clear Kosk>Geo or vice versa.
- Skinner is an emergency loan.
so Geo if cheap is useful, esp since no top G is being made available

valuation:
- Rooney playing well I don't move for less than a 2nd
- Geo worth a 2nd; Geo retained worth 2nd +
that's 2 2nds w/a + in value NOW
- plus two current 2nds
Hajek is worth a 5th upgradeable to a 4th, is in to give NYR a roster spot and to provide depth since Bro would be moved
McKegg actually competes for your 4th line, which sucks

going the other way
Broberg now
later 3rd

that's 4 2nds value + for a high first and a late 3rd
that is not an insulting ask

As to why would Oil want picks, setting aside you use the picks
EDM currently no 3rd + 4th and 2nd may be in play.
besides, picks are always good for regeneration

NY does not want any other piece other than Holloway or higher picks [unavailable]

If you want a high end 3C, expect to pay thru the nose.
A guy like CBJ's Jenner, why would he be made available at all, let alone cheap?

I think Oilers fans have made it clear that Broberg in't being traded . I am not sure how you don't understand this . Klefbom is done and we need someone long term on the 2nd pairing . Broberg is our future 2nd pairing guy . Throwing a bunch of quarter at us for our blue chip LD prospect that is a need isn't going to get it done . Geo also isn't the goalie we are looking for .

all of that is understood.
What you need to recognize is if you want something from me, then you need to pay me in the currency I want.
No harm, no foul if you don't wanna go there.

Other than unavailable Holloway, no other player asset is of interest to NYR.

Base on what you are saying ? Well bad news for you he won't be traded for a bunch of lessor parts . We have his rights and aren't looking to sell . You want us to sell him convince us to do so by offering high end piece then add in the much needed profit as you like to do for the NYR . So 2 high end 1st round picks prospects that hasn't had their development stalled .

Valuation of 4 2nds + for 1 good 1st + future 3rd is all NY can offer

Unless you want to do Strome 2.0
but fully retained, he's gonna get a late 1st
want to go there?

 

[cg98]

1:1 -- hell no, I never said that/went there.
part of a package? yes, if rest of the package is enuf/works.


Appreciate the clarifications incl as to #3.

I explain the rationale here:
Oil
- want 3C
- have another thread about Nurse for G.
So net minder upgrade/depth in order.
Geo is not Shesty level upgrade, but
- Kosk is 33, so a younger guy going forward, while not an immediate need, is sensible. Also not clear Kosk>Geo or vice versa.
- Skinner is an emergency loan.
so Geo if cheap is useful, esp since no top G is being made available

valuation:
- Rooney playing well I don't move for less than a 2nd
- Geo worth a 2nd; Geo retained worth 2nd +
that's 2 2nds w/a + in value NOW
- plus two current 2nds
Hajek is worth a 5th upgradeable to a 4th, is in to give NYR a roster spot and to provide depth since Bro would be moved
McKegg actually competes for your 4th line, which sucks

going the other way
Broberg now
later 3rd

that's 4 2nds value + for a high first and a late 3rd
that is not an insulting ask

As to why would Oil want picks, setting aside you use the picks
EDM currently no 3rd + 4th and 2nd may be in play.
besides, picks are always good for regeneration

NY does not want any other piece other than Holloway or higher picks [unavailable]

If you want a high end 3C, expect to pay thru the nose.
A guy like CBJ's Jenner, why would he be made available at all, let alone cheap?




all of that is understood.
What you need to recognize is if you want something from me, then you need to pay me in the currency I want.
No harm, no foul if you don't wanna go there.

Other than unavailable Holloway, no other player asset is of interest to NYR.




Valuation of 4 2nds + for 1 good 1st + future 3rd is all NY can offer

Unless you want to do Strome 2.0
but fully retained, he's gonna get a late 1st
want to go there?

PSA: a bunch of garbage clumped up into a package does not make a sufficient trade for the Oilers' best D prospect.

 

[belair]

What's the deal with Jarnkrok in Seattle? I could see them coming together on a deadline deal.

 

[bernmeister]

PSA: a bunch of garbage clumped up into a package does not make a sufficient trade for the Oilers' best D prospect.

4 2nds + value is not garbage offer, but that said...

fine psa 2
Oil like everybody else will pay market rate for best option available, which may not be much.

You do a lot worse than Rooney for 3C
prob is you don't want to pay for Rooney or Jenner type

 

[cg98]

4 2nds + value is not garbage offer, but that said...

fine psa 2
Oil like everybody else will pay market rate for best option available, which may not be much.

You do a lot worse than Rooney for 3C
prob is you don't want to pay for Rooney or Jenner type

It absolutely is for a teams top D prospect selected in the top 10 and who only just turned 20. Garbage offer.

 

[ujju2]

I think they'll wait to see if McLeod can run with it before pulling the trigger on anything (which they're unlikely do anyways imo).

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Lmao it wouldn’t be an Oilers trade thread unless Bern was in it desperately trying to get Broberg

 

[bernmeister]

Lmao it wouldn’t be an Oilers trade thread unless Bern was in it desperately trying to get Broberg

guilty as charged except for the 'desperately' assessment

 

[Rubi]

Oilers have a good 3rd line center. They just keep playing him on the wing.

 

[McSuper]

1:1 -- hell no, I never said that/went there.
part of a package? yes, if rest of the package is enuf/works.


Appreciate the clarifications incl as to #3.

I explain the rationale here:
Oil
- want 3C
- have another thread about Nurse for G.
So net minder upgrade/depth in order.
Geo is not Shesty level upgrade, but
- Kosk is 33, so a younger guy going forward, while not an immediate need, is sensible. Also not clear Kosk>Geo or vice versa.
- Skinner is an emergency loan.
so Geo if cheap is useful, esp since no top G is being made available

valuation:
- Rooney playing well I don't move for less than a 2nd
- Geo worth a 2nd; Geo retained worth 2nd +
that's 2 2nds w/a + in value NOW
- plus two current 2nds
Hajek is worth a 5th upgradeable to a 4th, is in to give NYR a roster spot and to provide depth since Bro would be moved
McKegg actually competes for your 4th line, which sucks

going the other way
Broberg now
later 3rd

that's 4 2nds value + for a high first and a late 3rd
that is not an insulting ask

As to why would Oil want picks, setting aside you use the picks
EDM currently no 3rd + 4th and 2nd may be in play.
besides, picks are always good for regeneration

NY does not want any other piece other than Holloway or higher picks [unavailable]

If you want a high end 3C, expect to pay thru the nose.
A guy like CBJ's Jenner, why would he be made available at all, let alone cheap?




all of that is understood.
What you need to recognize is if you want something from me, then you need to pay me in the currency I want.
No harm, no foul if you don't wanna go there.

Other than unavailable Holloway, no other player asset is of interest to NYR.




Valuation of 4 2nds + for 1 good 1st + future 3rd is all NY can offer

Unless you want to do Strome 2.0
but fully retained, he's gonna get a late 1st
want to go there?

Pass with extreme prejudice .

 

[Mrfenn92]

Bern wants Broberg? Who, for the Oilers, should be untouchable?



Broberg
Koskinen



Shesterkin

But Kevin Rooney

 

[Mrfenn92]

4 2nds + value is not garbage offer, but that said...

fine psa 2
Oil like everybody else will pay market rate for best option available, which may not be much.

You do a lot worse than Rooney for 3C
prob is you don't want to pay for Rooney or Jenner type

It is a garbage offer would you take 4 seconds for your bluest of blue chips?

 

[bernmeister]

It is a garbage offer would you take 4 seconds for your bluest of blue chips?

context, context, context
which you choose to ignore

1. Oil want to address multiple smaller needs
[3C and elsewhere, G]
2. have no cap space
3 have nothing else to offer NY of interest except Holloway/1sts and I did not go there

IF IF IF
the shoe was on the other foot, and I was trying to max cup push to max window that McD + LeoDrai have, then
THEN
I would have to consider value of sacrificing better piece for need [compared to instead making due with what I have and building to make a stronger push next year + following seasons] and also, if I go there, what is the net cost?

Question is moot, b'c unlike previous idiots who were Oil GM and who did little else right besides draft 2 generational guys when they had the chance, I would have been more careful about when to build and when to splurge.

4 2nds value now for a top 10 and a late 3rd is not a horseshit offer
especially if you consider the premise of OP is Oil want and need that help NOW to keep forward progress.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Or run McDavid Drai RNH as your 3 centers…. Maybe give lines outside the first a chance to score.

 

[belair]

4 2nds + value is not garbage offer, but that said...

fine psa 2
Oil like everybody else will pay market rate for best option available, which may not be much.

You do a lot worse than Rooney for 3C
prob is you don't want to pay for Rooney or Jenner type

Why are you mentioning Kevin Rooney and Boone Jenner in the same context?

 

[strictlyrandy]

I see this has become a Bern thread…. I wish he were the GM of an actual team. I just want to see how fast other GMs laugh at him. Oh and it’d keep him off of here. Let him be the Yotes GM for a day just for funsies.

 

[Spectra]

Easy no for the oilers
Broberg will not be moved for those pieces

Are you absolutely sure? Bern aquired Broberg for this exact package in NHL14, so it absolutely is a realistic and plausible deal and you know it!