Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid: Flyers Rumors & Media Mentions

[CutOnDime97]

They didn't tell us to unbuckle yet

 

[FLYguy3911]

Only 96 hours left to trade Sanheim.

 

[Danko]

are we waiting on krug to get back from vacation?

 

[trostol]

are we waiting on krug to get back from vacation?

nah..he's...

 

[Taijuan Fedotov]

Anybody tell us to buckle up yet?

Strapped in.

 

[Magua]

Only 96 hours left to trade Sanheim.

What are you taking your chances with: 96 hours to move Sanhero or 96 hours of oxygen in an OceanGate submersible?

 

[bauer]

You have to think they gotta make at least one deal Tuesday. You’ve got Hayes, TDA and Sanheim to trade, plus maybe TK and Laughton. You can’t leave them all to draft day.

This has happened before, they’re gonna spend all their time focused on Hayes and forget to trade anybody else. And it won’t even be a good return.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

Im in agreement on this. The rumored return is not worth burning up a slot, though they can free up slots by taking bad contracts (Provorov trade)

Everywhere we are reading that moving money is very very difficult cause the cap isnt growing for 3 seasons! This is the best time to have cap space and retention slots open. We should be able to get huge assets through this moves. I member when teams wanted a 1st for the JVR Contract.

Why dont weaponize our cap space and retention slots for moves like this! Help cap strapped teams out and get payed draft picks!!

The chance was never better!

 

[Ironmanrulez]

I searched through the CBA as much as reasonably possible over lunch and I didn’t see any clause restricting the Flyers from trading TDA back to the Canes right now. There are clauses that apply to RFAs issued qualifying offers but that wasn’t the case with TDA. The No Circumvention section doesn’t include any language that would remotely apply to this situation. It’s more for situations where you try and do obviously ridiculous things like trading your backup goalie and diminutive but speedy third-line center for future considerations in order to avoid exposing them to a waiver draft then get them back a few days letter for the bargain cost of a late-round draft pick. It would stretch credulity to suggest the Flyers would benefit in this whole series of transactions. The Canes would obviously benefit but that’s only because they were negotiating with Chuck Fletcher, not because they did something unsavory (I would accept the argument that it was unfair for them to take advantage of the Flyers with Fletcher at the helm).

In other words, it would be nice if LeBrun would elaborate or report that he inquired about what specific language in the CBA would prevent a trade of TDA back to NC now, because it’s not clear. Again, it’s not like it violates the spirit of restrictions on circumventing the CBA.

ok it comes down to --> make a trade with Cuck Fletcher is Cap Circumvention. Chucky is a cheat code!

 

[Ironmanrulez]

Zeroing on Michkov is Briere signaling that he really isnt of the flyers mindset and has a new vision, which is cool.

That said, I have zero confidence in the rest of the organization to handle a player like Michkov. Hes going to come in at 22 as "the guy" and "bigger than the team" energy undersized with an unpolished defensive game. None of those should in amyway matter with what his talent will do...but all of them drive the dinosaurs nuts.

My point is...I like where Briere's head is...but I hope he is allowed to fully change the climate of the organization as part of this rebuild so a player like that can thrive, not be run out of town. My biggest fear is we actually have a smart GM but hes going to constantly be having to "one for me, one for them" to keep tbe geezers happy...which results in a half measured failure.

i´am 100% with you.

And for me the russian factor is another HUGE factor!

Pridevorov was the most unrussian player for years they said before the draft. Cause he joined the NA juniors very early. Nevertheless he was a problem in Philly from day one. With his attitude. Bryzgalov was another fiasco. The this with Fedotov and our history with russian roster players in general! And dont forget the OLD days and our history with the russian nation!

If i would be Michkov i would nearly ANYTHING other before i would join the flyers!

I like the forward thinking of Briere and the big balls! but its the wrong player and for sure the wrong situation he is in!

 

[Skull Knight]

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[Hockeypete49]

If Danny B. does this I would be pissed. To much BS involved here. You do not see him until the 26/27 season and who knows what russia will be up to by then? This team needs a lot of talent, and moving top picks for a long shot at this time is foolish

 

[Redpath]

If Danny B. does this I would be pissed. To much BS involved here. You do not see him until the 26/27 season and who knows what russia will be up to by then? This team needs a lot of talent, and moving top picks for a long shot at this time is foolish

This team isn't doing anything until 2026-27 anyway.

We need quality more than quantity. We have the next few years to add draft picks, but there is not guarantee we get a shot at someone as talented as Michkov again.

 

[BernieParent]

Anybody tell us to buckle up yet?

If you aren't self-buckling at this point, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[ajgoal]

If you aren't self-buckling at this point, I don't know what to tell you.

Has Tesla invented that yet?

 

[deadhead]

Looking at the list of top trade candidates, what's evident is how few deals have been made up to now.

So expect things to heat up the next two days, but there's a limited supply of available 2023 1st rd picks (Calgary #16, Det #17, but DeBrincat?, Winnipeg #18, Seattle #20, NYR #23, St Louis #25, #29, Colorado #27, Toronto #28, Carolina #30, Montreal #31, Vegas #32)
With Calgary selling, are they also buying? Same with Winnipeg.

Teams with multiple 2nd rd picks: Buffalo #39, #45, Det #41, #42, #43, Nashville #46, #47, Seattle #50, #52, Minn #53, #64

 

[Prongo]

The nonsense on the main boards about moving up from 7th to 5th is hilarious. Not saying it wouldn’t be steep but the prices some Hab fans think they will get are hilariously stupid.

It most likely won’t be moved, Habs will take the player they value there regardless. The team to consider for Michkov and trading is 6th. Washington can jump us by one but also Arizona can leverage that against us to move up as well. Similar to the Eagles and Bears this last NFL draft.

 

[Danko]

The nonsense on the main boards about moving up from 7th to 5th is hilarious. Not saying it wouldn’t be steep but the prices some Hab fans think they will get are hilariously stupid.

It most likely won’t be moved, Habs will take the player they value there regardless. The team to consider for Michkov and trading is 6th. Washington can jump us by one but also Arizona can leverage that against us to move up as well. Similar to the Eagles and Bears this last NFL draft.

got to look at past value for similar moves.

Has Tesla invented that yet?

 

[deadhead]

got to look at past value for similar moves.

There are no similar moves, teams never trade a top 5 pick. I mean for decades.

 

[Prongo]

got to look at past value for similar moves.

Have you? I haven’t taken the time to see but pretty sure it won’t take 7th, 22nd and Konency to get 5th overall.

Last time I remember even a top five pick being moved was it for the Sedins (One of them)? Where Burke actually leveraged the whole “they won’t play unless together shtick” I believe. Don’t recall what that trade even was though.

 

[Danko]

There are no similar moves, teams never trade a top 5 pick. I mean for decades.

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[Pet Charles]

If Danny B. does this I would be pissed. To much BS involved here. You do not see him until the 26/27 season and who knows what russia will be up to by then? This team needs a lot of talent, and moving top picks for a long shot at this time is foolish

I disagree. In a best-case scenario, this team will be competitive by 26-27, but probably later. If he’s still there at 7, Michkov will easily be the best player available.

Edit: Ok, I see now you’re responding to the proposals to move up for Michkov. I agree on what you’re saying on that one. There are only two players worth moving up for, and that won’t happen. Take what you have available at 7 because it will still be an outstanding prospect and make your picks. I wouldn’t be totally against a packaging of 22 and a hypothetical second pick in the 20s to move up into the early teens, but it would have to be the right player and they’d need the extra collateral to get there.

 

[Flybynite]

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2nd and 3rd seems more logical to jump from 7 to 5 than "Ok, gotta be the #22 pick PLUS more to move up those 2 spots"

The nonsense on the main boards about moving up from 7th to 5th is hilarious. Not saying it wouldn’t be steep but the prices some Hab fans think they will get are hilariously stupid.

It most likely won’t be moved, Habs will take the player they value there regardless. The team to consider for Michkov and trading is 6th. Washington can jump us by one but also Arizona can leverage that against us to move up as well. Similar to the Eagles and Bears this last NFL draft.

The price some habs fans are talking about for 7 to 5 is more than the Sixers paid to go from 3 to 1 and waste it on Fultz... and that was a disaster of the trade. some of the 'habs fan take' is ridiculous.

 

[deadhead]

I think teams would want more this year than moving up for Luke Schenn.
One in 3? decades is a very small sample.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

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I look forward to hearing how this doesn’t count.