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Deadpool8812 said:
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Summary of ASF on Zegras.

Flyers have been talking to Anaheim about Zegras since last trade deadline. Asking price was ridiculous.

Briere checked back in this June before draft to see if something made sense, asking price was still too high.

Before trade with Calgary, Briere checked in with the Ducks again and Briere mentioned Farabee, Ducks were interested in Farabee. Ducks weren't comfortable with taking on full Farabee salary, wanted Flyers to eat some salary.

Briere not willing to do that because Zegras hasn't looked good for two years, and Flyers would end up taking MORE salary. Ducks wanted a 1st round pick to take Farabee's full salary.

Flyers didn't want to give up all these assets for a guy that wasn't on top of his game, going on third straight bad year, injury concerns.

Doesn't think anything is left there in terms of making a deal for Zegras. Apparently Ducks wanted York too, but Briere not interested.
 
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flyersnorth said:
Summary of ASF on Zegras.

Flyers have been talking to Anaheim about Zegras since last trade deadline. Asking price was ridiculous.

Briere checked back in this June before draft to see if something made sense, asking price was still too high.

Before trade with Calgary, Briere checked in with the Ducks again and Briere mentioned Farabee, Ducks were interested in Farabee. Ducks weren't comfortable with taking on full Farabee salary, wanted Flyers to eat some salary.

Briere not willing to do that because Zegras hasn't looked good for two years, and Flyers would end up taking MORE salary. Ducks wanted a 1st round pick to take Farabee's full salary.

Flyers didn't want to give up all these assets for a guy that wasn't on top of his game, going on third straight bad year, injury concerns.

Doesn't think anything is left there in terms of making a deal for Zegras. Apparently Ducks wanted York too, but Briere not interested.
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Isn’t it so weird, and kind of predictable that they release this now? Trying to keep people talking/engaged a least a little?

Would have been a smart gamble on Zegras imo.

Freaky that Verbeek keeps being brought up. Murray has influence that’s for sure.
 
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FlyerNutter said:
Isn’t it so weird, and kind of predictable that they release this now? Trying to keep people talking/engaged a least a little?

Would have been a smart gamble on Zegras imo.

Freaky that Verbeek keeps being brought up. Murray has influence that’s for sure.
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I haven't watched enough of Zegras (possibly even zero times) to know either way. I do see his numbers stagnating, and a low number of games played over the past few seasons. He seems kind of like Drysdale - injury problems, development problems.

We do need a 1C. Is he legitimately a 1C, or have the potential to be?

If the answer is yes, then yeah, it's probably a smart gamble. If the answer is no, then maybe circle back later for him as a 2C and when you aren't so weak down the middle.
 
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BillDineen said:
ASF says Flyers tried to trade Farabee for Zegras and in the end it fell apart.

onpattison.com

How much more will the Flyers do before the trade deadline? | OnPattison

Flyers GM Danny Briere made an early trade two weeks ago, sending Joel Farabee and Morgan Frost to Calgary. The deadline is March 7th. Will he do more?
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This is WAY too much interest in Ducks reclamation projects for a team that churns out their own reclamation projects.

That's also an INSANE value plunge. You think your players are worth Zegras, a real player with real upside remaining...and then trade them for nothing?
 
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I smell BS, the Ducks wanted Farabee AND a first for Zegras? And somehow York was brought up to?

Insane evaluation. But good to know that Torts and company have turned Farabee into a cap dump.

I would have probably traded one of the late 1st round picks straight up for Zegras. Maybe plus a bit mor coming back from Anaheim.
 
isn't it ironic...dontcha think...that Danny doesn't want to pay someone's price but is probably shocked no one will pay his price for our own bad players
 
Beef Invictus said:
This is WAY too much interest in Ducks reclamation projects for a team that churns out their own reclamation projects.

That's also an INSANE value plunge. You think your players are worth Zegras, a real player with real upside remaining...and then trade them for nothing?
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this team loves fixer er uppers... but what happens is they further plummet and become valueless

#Beaf***ingFlyer..
 
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flyersnorth said:
I haven't watched enough of Zegras (possibly even zero times) to know either way. I do see his numbers stagnating, and a low number of games played over the past few seasons. He seems kind of like Drysdale - injury problems, development problems.

We do need a 1C. Is he legitimately a 1C, or have the potential to be?

If the answer is yes, then yeah, it's probably a smart gamble. If the answer is no, then maybe circle back later for him as a 2C and when you aren't so weak down the middle.
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I don’t think he’s a 1, but with Michkov - and TK he has a chance to raise his value - and they could trade him if desired.

Hes been overtaken by other centremen in Anaheim - and rightfully so - don’t see that issue here.

The ceiling is higher than Farabee, so I’d have taken a shot on that. Likely never hits it, but they should have been able to increase his value enough to be able to move him at a later date.
 
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Beef Invictus said:
The only way to go from "This one guy is worth Zegras" to "Both these guys aren't worth shit" is if the value returned was irrelevant and the real goal was simply getting rid of two more players the coach hates as a culture move.
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Apparently was nixxed cause Anaheim didn't want full contract and was asking for a first. I don't know I guess it makes sense. I think I would have been fine with Edmonton first and farabee no retention for zegras. Flyers are gonna f*** up the draft choice anyway
 
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The only way to go from "This one guy is worth Zegras" to "Both these guys aren't worth shit" is if the value returned was irrelevant and the real goal was simply getting rid of two more players the coach hates as a culture move.
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The other way to get there is if you start from a position that Zegras isn't worth much of a damn, either. We can disagree with that assessment, but it seems like that's the Flyers' position.
 
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The other way to get there is if you start from a position that Zegras isn't worth much of a damn, either. We can disagree with that assessment, but it seems like that's the Flyers' position.
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At which point trying to trade for him makes no sense either, so it's not like there's an available angle that helps them seem better
 
I wanted a 1st for Frost and Farabee. A mid or late 1st could have the same or a little less upside as Zegras right now. Add in Laughton if needed and get 2x 1sts or 1st +
 
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