Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

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volnoir

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From everything that has been said, much of the problems between Kolosov and Gauthier really appear to be communication issues from team to player.

From what's been said, Gauthier was told he would be signed at some point, then the Flyers reneged on that and he refused to sign after that point for broken trust.

Kolosov by the optics came over to NA then a few days later the Flyers go and bring Fedotov into the fold. When they brought Kolosov over did they tell him he was going to be the backup in Philly then renege on that as well after finding out they could get Fedotov out of Russia? Almost feels that way based on latest reports from Kolosov camp.
 

Magua

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Can't anyone get photos of Gauthier's childhood NHL bedsheets to settle this once and for all?

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(He was a Penguins fan)
 

blackjackmulligan

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From everything that has been said, much of the problems between Kolosov and Gauthier really appear to be communication issues from team to player.

From what's been said, Gauthier was told he would be signed at some point, then the Flyers reneged on that and he refused to sign after that point for broken trust.

Kolosov by the optics came over to NA then a few days later the Flyers go and bring Fedotov into the fold. When they brought Kolosov over did they tell him he was going to be the backup in Philly then renege on that as well after finding out they could get Fedotov out of Russia? Almost feels that way based on latest reports from Kolosov camp.
Mind sharing what they said as havent seen anything. Thanks.
 

ybnvs

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any of you posters EVER criticize players ? it's always the coach(s).....or the front office.....

Patrick quit on the Flyers as did Gauthier and now Kolosov .

If certain players won't at least TRY, why would Jones or Briere want them ??

there's the effin' door ya quitters :nopity: enough of the drama 😭

a beer for both Briere AND Jones 🍻

Players get criticized all of the time.

The coach is a cancer. The front office is poorly run.

Patrick didn't quit on the Flyers. Gauthier was poorly managed. Kolosov is being poorly managed.

What players do not try?

You bitch about player drama, what about front office and especially the coach's drama? Enough is enough, I agree. Start from the top.

A beer and early retirement, for both please.
 

deadhead

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I think a lot of fans here need to read outside of Flyers land.

Just follow NHL rumors and you'll see how numerous coach/player, player miscalculation, etc. are around the league. This player demands a trade, that player is holding out, etc.

And even good teams make numerous miscalculations, Toronto and TB both gave up on Verhaeghe. Boston traded Wheeler and Seguin for pennies on the dollar. And so on.

And I laugh when people says Torts is too old school and will alienate his players.

Stoutland is a coaching God in Philly, and he makes Torts look like a p***ycat, he rides his players harder, is a profanity machine, and his players boast about being graduates of Stoutland U.

Torts may be an asshole as a coach, but he's a genuine and decent human being (and loves dogs) and his players know that - Flyers have had some schmucks as coaches.

What Torts does with the rope drill is similar to what Andy Reid used to do in his camps.l
It's both a conditioning test, but also a team bonding exercise (us against him) as well as bringing out the competitive juices (I won't be the first to go down).

Perspective simply means don't overreact to every move, look at the whole picture.
Howie has made numerous mistakes, but Eagles have made playoffs 6 of last 7 years with a SB win and SB loss. That's what matters.
 

blackjackmulligan

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I think a lot of fans here need to read outside of Flyers land.

Just follow NHL rumors and you'll see how numerous coach/player, player miscalculation, etc. are around the league. This player demands a trade, that player is holding out, etc.

And even good teams make numerous miscalculations, Toronto and TB both gave up on Verhaeghe. Boston traded Wheeler and Seguin for pennies on the dollar. And so on.

And I laugh when people says Torts is too old school and will alienate his players.

Stoutland is a coaching God in Philly, and he makes Torts look like a p***ycat, he rides his players harder, is a profanity machine, and his players boast about being graduates of Stoutland U.

Torts may be an asshole as a coach, but he's a genuine and decent human being (and loves dogs) and his players know that - Flyers have had some schmucks as coaches.

What Torts does with the rope drill is similar to what Andy Reid used to do in his camps.l
It's both a conditioning test, but also a team bonding exercise (us against him) as well as bringing out the competitive juices (I won't be the first to go down).

Perspective simply means don't overreact to every move, look at the whole picture.
Howie has made numerous mistakes, but Eagles have made playoffs 6 of last 7 years with a SB win and SB loss. That's what matters.
You are comparing that to the Flyers?

Flyers are a total shit show. Have been for a long time. What other teams do does not matter as we are talking/focusing on the team at hand. The Flyers.
 

ponder719

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Well, checkmate us, I guess, they found the one weirdo. In the NHL preseason poll, they asked players which coach, other than their own, they'd like to play for.

The Athletic said:
The funniest response here?

“This may sound weird, but Torts,” said one Western Conference defenseman. “I’d like to try Torts.”

So, there, it's not unanimous, there is at least one weirdo in the NHL who would like to play for Tortorella.

(Granted, this is behind Cooper, Maurice, Quenneville, Montgomery, Brind'Amour, and tied with Colliton, DeBoer, Knoblauch, and Michael Peca, but there you have it.)
 

freakydallas13

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I think a lot of fans here need to read outside of Flyers land.

Just follow NHL rumors and you'll see how numerous coach/player, player miscalculation, etc. are around the league.
How many other teams have had 2 high profile prospects who have yet to play an NHL game publicly refuse to play for their team in less than a year?

Torts may be an asshole as a coach, but he's a genuine and decent human being (and loves dogs) and his players know that - Flyers have had some schmucks as coaches.
He's the most hated coach as voted by the players.

He wasn't a part of the last team of his to win a cup's reunion.

His last real playoff success was 20 years ago.

The list of players beefing with him and the Flyers is huge and gets longer every year.

And you're out here telling us how good a human he is, and that he likes dogs? This is the kind of intellectually bankrupt fluff piece you would expect from someone within the team's tightly restricted media. No one cares that Torts like dogs when most other aspects of his personality are dog shit.
 
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deadhead

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Since when was a 3rd rd pick "a high profile prospect"? Exaggerate much?

Torts had more playoff success in CBJ than Toronto has had the past eight seasons.
Got to 2nd rd twice, made PO four staight seasons until idiot GM deep sixed the franchise.
NYR, got to CF, 2nd rd in 3 seasons.
 

ponder719

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And you're out here telling us how good a human he is, and that he likes dogs? This is the kind of intellectually bankrupt fluff piece you would expect from someone within the team's tightly restricted media. No one cares that Torts like dogs when most other aspects of his personality are dog shit.

We know Torts likes dogs. How else would you explain the amount of ice time our bottom 6 gets?
 

blackjackmulligan

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Since when was a 3rd rd pick "a high profile prospect"? Exaggerate much?

Torts had more playoff success in CBJ than Toronto has had the past eight seasons.
Got to 2nd rd twice, made PO four staight seasons until idiot GM deep sixed the franchise.
NYR, got to CF, 2nd rd in 3 seasons.
Another BS narrative.

High profile in the snese they hyped him up?
 

usahockey22flyers

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any of you posters EVER criticize players ? it's always the coach(s).....or the front office.....

Patrick quit on the Flyers as did Gauthier and now Kolosov .

If certain players won't at least TRY, why would Jones or Briere want them ??

there's the effin' door ya quitters :nopity: enough of the drama 😭

a beer for both Briere AND Jones 🍻

From everything that has been said, much of the problems between Kolosov and Gauthier really appear to be communication issues from team to player.

From what's been said, Gauthier was told he would be signed at some point, then the Flyers reneged on that and he refused to sign after that point for broken trust.

Kolosov by the optics came over to NA then a few days later the Flyers go and bring Fedotov into the fold. When they brought Kolosov over did they tell him he was going to be the backup in Philly then renege on that as well after finding out they could get Fedotov out of Russia? Almost feels that way based on latest reports from Kolosov camp.
There’s also the angle that’s been floated around that Cutter didn’t know what he was doing yet for the next year, and the team didn’t really beg him to go pro immediately- and it irked him
 

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