Mr Jackpot
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The arguments (backed up with stats) against him are numerous, the numbers for him are the standings
Can you just name 2 arguments backed up with stats that are against him?
The arguments (backed up with stats) against him are numerous, the numbers for him are the standings
Bottom third across the league in stats that don't include goaltending.Can you just name 2 arguments backed up with stats that are against him?
Bottom third across the league in stats that don't include goaltending.
Terrible possession numbers despite having a good roster.
It's because of Therrien if we're bottom third in stats and if we have terrible possession numbers? It's not because the group of players we have average skills compared to other teams?
Is there a possibility, that you as a fan, overate your team skills?
If you think this team sucked in their play then why credit the coach and not the goalie? Give us a reason to credit him when we played so badly.It's because of Therrien if we're bottom third in stats and if we have terrible possession numbers? It's not because the group of players we have average skills compared to other teams?
He had an eventual cup winning team bottom third in possession numbers and out of the playoffs. This is nothing new.Is there a possibility, that you as a fan, overate your team skills?
He had an eventual cup winning team
We have a lot of great players.
....guess you don't like 110point seasons and playoff appearances. Let me guess....the system is absolute flawed and Price is the absolute only reason we have any type of success??...Pacioretty, Subban, Gallagher, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, Markov have no say whatsoever??I can't believe he's still our coach I hope he has a short leash this season.
His lack of stability with the lines, and his preference of players and their playing time, just drives me insane. Here's hoping he's changed, and his favorites don't get all the powerplay/offensive time.... again.
I think a lot of the things people wanted to see last year will happen to start the season:
Galchenyuk at center
Eller in the top 6
DD out of the top 6
Drastic change to the PP
Ok seriously I won't waste my time with this because it's ridiculous reading things like "eventual cup winning team"
How is it ridiculous?
The 2010 Penguins were OUT of the playoffs under Therrien. Therrien gets canned, and Bylsma takes the SAME team to the stanley cup. Is there some way to win the cup when you dont make the playoffs? Did the Kings not get that memo?
I don't really understand your post but I will just say this, there's two group of teams: cup contenders teams and non-cup contenders teams. Sorry for my french. The Habs last year we're not a cup contender team.
The Kings are a cup contender team, I don't care if they missed the playoffs last year, the 2 years the Kings won the cup in 2012 and 2014 they finished 8th and 6th in their conference.
It's because of Therrien if we're bottom third in stats and if we have terrible possession numbers? It's not because the group of players we have average skills compared to other teams?
Is there a possibility, that you as a fan, overate your team skills?
Pick which one you want to argue...
Are you arguing that the 2009 Pens were "a cup winning team"? Because when MT was at the helm, they werent in the playoffs. You dont win the stanley cup by not being in the playoffs.
Are you arguing that the 2016 Habs are "not a cup contending team?" I think a team that finished first in their division in 2 of the past 2 years, and made it to the ECF that year they didnt finish first in their division means they're definitely a cup contending team. Sure, a good chunk of that is Price, no doubt...does that mean they're not a cup contending team?
I mean this is so funny...
Who was the Pittsburgh coach when they reached the cup finals the year before? The same Pittsburgh that finished 30th in the league before Therrien took over.
2003-04 Pittsburgh 30th in the league
2004-05 lock out
2005-06 Ed Olczyk is fired, Therrien take over a very very young team with Letang, Fleury, Staal and Talbot all in their early 20's
2007-08 Pittsburgh in the Cup finals
Not just one, but TWO, TWO gamebreakers were added to that lineup.
Thats nice and all, this is all that matters right now
Jan 2009: Penguins are out of the playoffs with Therrien coaching
Feb 2009: Penguins fire Therrien, and hire Bylsma, SAME ROSTER
June 2009: Penguins win the stanley cup, something they would NOT have done with Therrien coaching because THEY WERE NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS.
And I dont even get your point about Pittsburgh not making the playoff in 2009, the Kings finished 8th in 2012 and missed the playoffs last year.
How is it ridiculous?
The 2009 Penguins were OUT of the playoffs under Therrien. Therrien gets canned, and Bylsma takes the SAME team to the stanley cup. Is there some way to win the cup when you dont make the playoffs? Did the Kings not get that memo?
Can someone make sense of this?
I love it when people have no more arguments. This is my favorite part.
2011-12 Montreal 15th in the East
Therrien takes over
2012-13 Montreal 2nd in the East
2013-14 Montreal 100 pts
2014-15 Montreal 110 pts
2014-15 Montreal 110 pts and Carey Price won every available award because anyone with half a brain knows Carey carried the team to those 110 points