Half-Assed GDT: There's a game tonight

[fcpremix88]

This again? Bad narrative. Didn't happen. Petro left because he wanted more $ than we were willing to pay him. Whether that was right call is still unclear, but if he had accepted largest contract in franchise history he would still be here. He wanted much, much more so he is gone. We need to move on.

You’ve said this kind of thing in multiple threads, but it’s not like your narrative is more correct than anyone else.

The Blues were rumored to offer $64 million over 8 years and he signed for $61.6 million over 7 years with Vegas. The difference was over job security (NTC v NMC) and signing bonuses.

I’m only talking about it, because your response was obnoxious.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

You’ve said this kind of thing in multiple threads, but it’s not like your narrative is more correct than anyone else.

The Blues were rumored to offer $64 million over 8 years and he signed for $61.6 million over 7 years with Vegas. The difference was over job security (NTC v NMC) and signing bonuses.

I’m only talking about it, because your response was obnoxious.

He wanted over 9/year from us. That has been widely reported. We offered max 8. He left because of it. Everything else is just spin from him and his agent.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Berube after the game: "There was just not a lot of energy or life the first two periods. That was a choice they made. Third period, we had a ton more and controlled most of the period. But you'll lose in this league to any team if you don't show up."

 

[ledzeppelinfan1]

I dont log in much here anymore—but I will tonight.

That was a complete and total embarrassment. This team and its tendency to just mail it in nauseates me as a fan.

 

[67Blues]

That was the highest priced Kirkwood Pee-wee herd hockey game I've ever gone to. I've got nothing better to say about it.

 

[Blueline2757]

He wanted over 9/year from us. That has been widely reported. We offered max 8. He left because of it. Everything else is just spin from him and his agent.

If he wanted so much money then why did he take less??? It wasn't about the money. It was the security(NMC). I remember one interview with the Vegas media Petro himself even said it was the NMC.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

If he wanted so much money then why did he take less??? It wasn't about the money. It was the security(NMC). I remember one interview with the Vegas media Petro himself even said it was the NMC.

He took less than he wanted bc it was most that he was offered! Blues offered him a ntc. His "I was afraid that they might try to move me some day down the road so i moved myself now" line is such a farce. Can't believe folks still buying it.

 

[Meatball]

I know the doom and gloomers come out after a loss (especially one like this) but this was the first really bad game of the season. I say really bad just because of Phoenix's record but they had a full defensive buy in tonight. Plus the ice was god awful!

They played their azz off against two of the top teams in Carolina and Edm and deserved to win both. They were by far the better team vs Nashville too.

Binny has hit a slump and we had our rookie goalie let up an Allen goal late in Carolina. I see a winning streak coming with everyone finally coming off the covid list and Sunny is back! That is of course if Binner wakes the F up!

Yeah, Binnington needs to be better. He still has flashes of the cup winning goalie, but he's been bad lately.

Like the rest of the team, he'll pull it together. This team has potential.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

I dont log in much here anymore—but I will tonight.

That was a complete and total embarrassment. This team and its tendency to just mail it in nauseates me as a fan.

I never go to games in person anymore for a variety of reasons.

ABOVE IS REASON #1

 

[BlueDream]

I just don’t see any difference from last year. They have no identity, they don’t play a structured system.

I think I saw the Blues throw maybe 2-3 hits the entire night.

There’s zero passion. It’s an easy team to play against.

 

[DanielMarois]

That Binnington contract is already looking bad.

 

[BlueOil]

passive blue line has to be fixed. binnington's lateral movement looks rough lately. put ville out there thursday and cheer people up with a win.

 

[Majorityof1]

Next person who talks about Krug being dead weight is the next person who outs themselves as an unknowledgeable fan. We missed him. Hard. Dude is a creator.

Krug is a dead weight on defense. Now, let's have a contest about who knows more about hockey. You game?

You'd make a great scout.

GM: Who should we draft?
ZP: Joe Random. He scored a goal on that one play I watched.
GM: How'd he do the rest of the time.
ZP: Oh, I only watched the one play.
GM: How was his consistency?
ZP: Well he scored on every play I watched.
GM: Just the one..
ZP: Yeah, every one.
GM: How was his defense?
ZP: I said he scored a goal on the one play I watched, so he obviously wasn't on defense. Duh. How'd you get this job?

 

[HighNote]

I think Krug has been really good this year, I don't know what people are talking about.

 

[Meatball]

The team is awful.

 

[Meatball]

I think Krug has been really good this year, I don't know what people are talking about.

Krug, Parayko, Perunovich, the defense looked good tonight.

Binnington and the forwards were off. It happens.

Oh look, the calendar....we'll be fine.

 

[Majorityof1]

I think Krug has been really good this year, I don't know what people are talking about.

Offensively he has been great this year. Defensively he has been sheltered so much that it is hurting the rest of our team. 68% offensive zone face off starts. That means Scandella needs to play 74% defensive zone starts because Walman isn't picking up anyone's slack. Despite almost never having to start in the D zone, Krug has given up the most high danger chances per 60 of any D on the team. He's just not good at defense at all. He does nothing well defensively. Faulk isn't the best at D, but he is really good at defending the Blue line in transition. I can not name one single defensive area where Krug is even average.

The non-PP goal tonight was on him with that BS drop pass off the boards. Sure, Thomas misplayed it, but Krug never should have made that crap pass. It was a no look pass, off the boards, with no tell to Thomas that it was coming in our own zone. There was no reason to make it, so no reason Thomas should have expected it. Krug also should have gotten back to help defend. Thomas slowed the guy down, but Krug couldn't make it back?

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Offensively he has been great this year. Defensively he has been sheltered so much that it is hurting the rest of our team. 68% offensive zone face off starts. That means Scandella needs to play 74% defensive zone starts because Walman isn't picking up anyone's slack. Despite almost never having to start in the D zone, Krug has given up the most high danger chances per 60 of any D on the team. He's just not good at defense at all. He does nothing well defensively. Faulk isn't the best at D, but he is really good at defending the Blue line in transition. I can not name one single defensive area where Krug is even average.

The non-PP goal tonight was on him with that BS drop pass off the boards. Sure, Thomas misplayed it, but Krug never should have made that crap pass. It was a no look pass, off the boards, with no tell to Thomas that it was coming in our own zone. There was no reason to make it, so no reason Thomas should have expected it. Krug also should have gotten back to help defend. Thomas slowed the guy down, but Krug couldn't make it back?

I don't think the utilization is doing either Krug or Scandella any favors. It's too reactive. I'd like to see Krug with Parayko, Scandella with Faulk, and just play them straight. Give the pairs fairly even zone starts and matchups and just let them play.

 

[Ranksu]

Krug is a dead weight on defense. Now, let's have a contest about who knows more about hockey. You game?

You'd make a great scout.

GM: Who should we draft?
ZP: Joe Random. He scored a goal on that one play I watched.
GM: How'd he do the rest of the time.
ZP: Oh, I only watched the one play.
GM: How was his consistency?
ZP: Well he scored on every play I watched.
GM: Just the one..
ZP: Yeah, every one.
GM: How was his defense?
ZP: I said he scored a goal on the one play I watched, so he obviously wasn't on defense. Duh. How'd you get this job?

 

[Meatball]

On a more positive note, Perunovich looked awesome. He's skating, his passing he looked like he belonged out there and I'm excited to watch him play more. Late in the 3rd, he had a shot that he should have taken, but aside from that, I love the way he plays, what a find!

Parayko still doing his trademark rushes and looking like a superstar when he does and Tarasenko playing with purpose again, he'll start to bury a few.

Kyrou is so good it hurts, I really do think that his ceiling is a tier below the McDavid's and MacKinnon's of the world in terms of raw speed and talent.

Krug had an excellent game and reminded me why he was such a tough opponent in the finals in '19, happy to have him.

Ryan O'Reilly is still Mr. Do everything right.

I know the doomers are here in full force, but one look at that roster and I'm drooling because again, I remember the days when we would all kill for the talent we have now.

The losing skid will end, the boys, the coaching staff, they will figure out how to win again and we'll all remember why we're so excited for this team.

Onto to the next game! Goodnight, guys and let's go Blues!

 

[HighNote]

Offensively he has been great this year. Defensively he has been sheltered so much that it is hurting the rest of our team. 68% offensive zone face off starts. That means Scandella needs to play 74% defensive zone starts because Walman isn't picking up anyone's slack. Despite almost never having to start in the D zone, Krug has given up the most high danger chances per 60 of any D on the team. He's just not good at defense at all. He does nothing well defensively. Faulk isn't the best at D, but he is really good at defending the Blue line in transition. I can not name one single defensive area where Krug is even average.

The non-PP goal tonight was on him with that BS drop pass off the boards. Sure, Thomas misplayed it, but Krug never should have made that crap pass. It was a no look pass, off the boards, with no tell to Thomas that it was coming in our own zone. There was no reason to make it, so no reason Thomas should have expected it. Krug also should have gotten back to help defend. Thomas slowed the guy down, but Krug couldn't make it back?

Yikes to the bolded. There's a reason Thomas skates in behind Krug, to back him up and give him the option of a drop pass. Krug happens to make that decision and Thomas, who should be prepared for that type of play because that's the reason he's there, has a full 2 seconds to react to it (which is an eternity in hockey), but he completely misplays it and it leads to a turnover and then the goal. It's almost entirely Thomas' fault. "Thomas would have never made that terrible turnover had Krug not given him the puck." Please.

And of course Krug isn't great defensively, we knew that even before he played a single game for us. But he makes up for that by being above average offensively. He's the type of defenseman that should be sheltered, and we're smart for doing it. But you can't blame our shortcomings elsewhere on the roster on Krug's toolset and usage. We very clearly need another top 4 shutdown defenseman. You can't blame Krug for that. Parayko is being overwhelmed by having to play huge defensive minutes while also having to cover for Scandella who is simply not suited for top defensive assignments. If Scandella is bumped down, everything would be perfect.

X - Parayko
Scandella - Faulk
Krug - Bortuzzo

Parayko's pairing would get top defensive assignments and the PK. The Faulk pairing would get balanced usage away from the other teams' top line if possible. The Krug pairing would get offensive zone assignments and favorable defensive matchups against other teams' bottom 6. Krug quarterbacks the PP and gets bumped up with Faulk from time to time if we're behind and need a goal.

Krug is doing fine given the circumstances. And FWIW, I don't think he's been horrid defensively so far.

 

[Stealth JD]

Yikes to the bolded. There's a reason Thomas skates in behind Krug, to back him up and give him the option of a drop pass. Krug happens to make that decision and Thomas, who should be prepared for that type of play because that's the reason he's there, has a full 2 seconds to react to it (which is an eternity in hockey), but he completely misplays it and it leads to a turnover and then the goal. It's almost entirely Thomas' fault. "Thomas would have never made that terrible turnover had Krug not given him the puck." Please.

And of course Krug isn't great defensively, we knew that even before he played a single game for us. But he makes up for that by being above average offensively. He's the type of defenseman that should be sheltered, and we're smart for doing it. But you can't blame our shortcomings elsewhere on the roster on Krug's toolset and usage. We very clearly need another top 4 shutdown defenseman. You can't blame Krug for that. Parayko is being overwhelmed by having to play huge defensive minutes while also having to cover for Scandella who is simply not suited for top defensive assignments. If Scandella is bumped down, everything would be perfect.

X - Parayko
Scandella - Faulk
Krug - Bortuzzo

Parayko's pairing would get top defensive assignments and the PK. The Faulk pairing would get balanced usage away from the other teams' top line if possible. The Krug pairing would get offensive zone assignments and favorable defensive matchups against other teams' bottom 6. Krug quarterbacks the PP and gets bumped up with Faulk from time to time if we're behind and need a goal.

Krug is doing fine given the circumstances. And FWIW, I don't think he's been horrid defensively so far.

Agree with most of this…but don’t like that you’ve already benched Perunovich. Unless you’re trading he and Walman for the 1LHD so badly needed…in which case, I’m down.

 

[execwrite1]

The playoff race this year is too competitive to have a letdown like this. Needed to win one of those weekend games and the Coyote game.

That's four points we have to steal down the road to get even.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

Long season, and we lost a lot of our early momentum thru injuries and COVID. It will all catch back up to itself. This team is still very good, and I can see us peaking at the right time. We need to bury Scandella, but we’ll be fine beyond that.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Long season, and we lost a lot of our early momentum thru injuries and COVID. It will all catch back up to itself. This team is still very good, and I can see us peaking at the right time. We need to bury Scandella, but we’ll be fine beyond that.

Don't bury, upgrade. He's the perfect in season candidate to use as a cap dump in a deal for a higher end LHD. He's a bottom 4 LHD on a 3.275 million dollar contract for 2 more years.