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Oh I love Malazan, but it's kind of bonkers. It's inspired by GRRM to be more dark and gritty, but rather than grounded feudalism it's very high fantasy. I mean while it's a side plot at this point aren't there roaming armies of zombie raptors with sword arms right in the first book?

I haven't read much of the Black Company yet, but other than that I'd say the closest to Martin is Joe Abercombrie starting with the First Law trilogy. Here though it's lacking the grander scale of ASoIF, basically a barbarian, a dandy, and a crippled inquisitor walk into a bar. Which might actually be great for television because they can just plan for 3 seasons and that's it. The massive challenge taking on something like The Wheel of Time is you know you have to probably go at least 8 seasons to get it done, and that's a very hard commitment.
Second book.

But yeah - bonkers as shit and dense as hell. Was just making a joke.
 
Acting like Malazan: Book of the Fallen isn't a thing.

I tried Erikson and just couldn't get into it.

Joe Abercrombie was something though.

In terms of newer stuff, the Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch (Gentlemen Bastards series) is a renaissance fantasy with likeable scoundrels and laugh-out-loud moments of humour. It would make for a good TV series.

Also, Name of the Wind obviously, but Rothfuss is heading down that GRRM road of not finishing his damned series.

Broken Earth is a pretty unique series (also won 3 Hugos for all 3 books) by N.K. Jemisin, sort of a hybrid of fantasy and science fiction.
 
I tried Erikson and just couldn't get into it.

Joe Abercrombie was something though.

In terms of newer stuff, the Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch (Gentlemen Bastards series) is a renaissance fantasy with likeable scoundrels and laugh-out-loud moments of humour. It would make for a good TV series.

Also, Name of the Wind obviously, but Rothfuss is heading down that GRRM road of not finishing his damned series.

Broken Earth is a pretty unique series (also won 3 Hugos for all 3 books) by N.K. Jemisin, sort of a hybrid of fantasy and science fiction.
Gentlemen Bastards would honestly be fantastic. "Nice bird, Asshole."
 
I tried Erikson and just couldn't get into it.

Joe Abercrombie was something though.

In terms of newer stuff, the Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch (Gentlemen Bastards series) is a renaissance fantasy with likeable scoundrels and laugh-out-loud moments of humour. It would make for a good TV series.

Also, Name of the Wind obviously, but Rothfuss is heading down that GRRM road of not finishing his damned series.

Broken Earth is a pretty unique series (also won 3 Hugos for all 3 books) by N.K. Jemisin, sort of a hybrid of fantasy and science fiction.

I know Name of the Wind was in some sort of production, but there's been little news for the last while. Doing a quick google search Lionsgate is supposed to be producing a movie a trilogy on the books with Sam Raimi directing, plus there's supposed to be some sort of TV deal. This is all news from early 2018 though so who knows.

Personally I'd say Rothfuss is worse than GRRM here for finishing. Martin you can at least understand, he's old, his books are massive complicated messes, he does plenty of other side projects, and thanks to the show he's wealthier and more famous than he probably ever imagined he'd be. Rothfuss though has none of that going for him but is taking just as long, to complete the third book of a story that is a journey of a single POV character. I lean heavily towards not nagging on the authors and letting them finish at their own pace but am really befuddled with Rothfuss' delay here.
 
I know Name of the Wind was in some sort of production, but there's been little news for the last while. Doing a quick google search Lionsgate is supposed to be producing a movie a trilogy on the books with Sam Raimi directing, plus there's supposed to be some sort of TV deal. This is all news from early 2018 though so who knows.

Personally I'd say Rothfuss is worse than GRRM here for finishing. Martin you can at least understand, he's old, his books are massive complicated messes, he does plenty of other side projects, and thanks to the show he's wealthier and more famous than he probably ever imagined he'd be. Rothfuss though has none of that going for him but is taking just as long, to complete the third book of a story that is a journey of a single POV character. I lean heavily towards not nagging on the authors and letting them finish at their own pace but am really befuddled with Rothfuss' delay here.
The second book also f***ing sucked. Like he got a fairy to follow him because he f***ed so good, despite being a virgin?

Honestly it's really trash writing but everything I've read about Rothfuss seems like he's just kind of... a twat.
 
That was an interesting way to bury the dead, like setting out a buffet for all of the nearby wild animals.

It was a good episode, but a bit predictable.
When it was mentioned near the beginning that Stepin's duty was to return her ring to the White Tower, I guessed that he was going to kill himself once he turned it in.

Also, Egwene using the power and she and Perrin injuring the guy and escaping was what I least wanted to see. Maybe GoT spoiled me with its less than perfect outcomes. Well, escaping with a tic-tac-toe board permanently carved into his back maybe wasn't the perfect outcome for Perrin, but close enough.

Oh, wow. I expected 10 episodes and figured that we were at the halfway point, but there are only 8 total, meaning only 3 more left.
 
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Not quite as good as the last episode but still better than the first three. Still on board.

I do hope the Tower politics are more compelling than Red vs Blue vs Yellow vs whatever other colors and Reds are notable just for hating men.

Also kinda clear where they're going with Egwene and Mat, but interested to see what Perrin's thing is, some kind of aquaman type powers but with wolves/dogs?
 
Couldn't get through the first episode. Maybe I'll try again after the holidays. It just seemed like woke, boring, game of thrones.
 
I loved the way the did Loial for the show. Probably comes off as campy, but I feel like the personality really matches what I imagined in my head. Especially the non-stop talking and having to be cut off mid-sentence multiple times.

I do think in episode 5 they spent far too much time on Stepin and his arc. I guess they're really trying to push the warder/Aes Sedai bond for future context, but I think it could have been done without centering 50% of an episode on a character I don't really know or care about.

A bit of a gripe I have with the show/book changes is that I feel like they haven't done justice to Warders at all in the show. In the book, they're master combatants who are vigilant and on the edge of violence at all times. The book describes them multiple times as having a prowling walk like a wolf ready to pounce. The show warders just seem like friendly soldiers. Lan I think does a decent job (although I'd like to see more dialogue with him and Rand), but the others don't strike me at all as what I imagined from the books.
 
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A bit of a gripe I have with the show/book changes is that I feel like they haven't done justice to Warders at all in the show. In the book, they're master combatants who are vigilant and on the edge of violence at all times. The book describes them multiple times as having a prowling walk like a wolf ready to pounce. The show warders just seem like friendly soldiers. Lan I think does a decent job (although I'd like to see more dialogue with him and Rand), but the others don't strike me at all as what I imagined from the books.

I assume they would have broken the CGI budget with the colour-shifting cloaks they are supposed to wear.
 
I assume they would have broken the CGI budget with the colour-shifting cloaks they are supposed to wear.
Yeah, that change is understandable and I don't think all that important to the plot. I just think the Warder's appear too average/human for my liking so far. They don't have that threatening-at-all-times vibe I kinda got from the books.
 
Not really anything like it aside from the fact that some of them have swords.
Like I said, that was my reaction with the first 25 minutes of episode one. Considering I didn't read the books this thing didnt "grab" me yet.

I'll see if I can get back to it after the holidays.
 
Like I said, that was my reaction with the first 25 minutes of episode one. Considering I didn't read the books this thing didnt "grab" me yet.

I'll see if I can get back to it after the holidays.

The first half of the first episode didn't grab me, either, and was a bit uninteresting and cringy, so my reaction was similar to yours. The last half was better because things get serious and there's a lot of action and drama. It turned my opinion around and made me more interested to watch the next episode. At the very least, finish the first episode before giving up.
 
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I think the show so far is fine. I've enjoyed the last 3 episodes more than the first two. The books are massive in scope and a lot of what's going on in the show would make more sense to those who've read them.
 
Couldn't get through the first episode. Maybe I'll try again after the holidays. It just seemed like woke, boring, game of thrones.
Considering Robert Jordan already had 7 Wheel of Time books published before the first Game of Thrones was published, not sure how that is. How is it woke? I mean come on.
 
Considering Robert Jordan already had 7 Wheel of Time books published before the first Game of Thrones was published, not sure how that is. How is it woke? I mean come on.
A bunch of minority actors/actresses that literally sucked at acting?
 
A bunch of minority actors/actresses that literally sucked at acting?
Gee I didn't realize I missed the bl**j** scene.

Couldn't get through the first episode. Maybe I'll try again after the holidays. It just seemed like woke, boring, game of thrones.

Also didn't realize a multi-ethnic cast in an entirely fictional fantasy land was "woke."
 
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It is if they suck at acting

I mean honest question, do the Perrin/Egwene/Nynaeve actors show any worse acting than Rand/Matt in the opening 25 minutes? For a show like this that's expected run a good number of years they're going to cast the young characters with relative unknowns. I doubt the acting from the former group would be better if these were white actors.

Also I have the first book out in audio format from the library right now, the main description given to Perrin is large & curly haired, and Egwene dark hair and dark eyes. Personally of those 5 I think Marcus Rutherford fits his role best as Perrin.
 

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