Post-Game Talk: The Voodoo is real Jets get Buffaloed 3-2

[ecolad]

Our D was the major issue tonight and it started with horrendous breakouts up the boards into double coverage all game. No adapting and going up the middle or to the other side.

True. But it`s perhaps time to acknowedge the difficulty we get into generating offence as well. Lot`s of simple execution problems tonight (maybe tired team) but the difference in style between the teams was so noticeable. Sabres carried the puck into our end consistently and generated shots readily - we dumped to nothing and when we did carry on the rush, frequently curled up and never even got a shot off. Don`t think this is a recipe for success .

 

[LowLefty]

Our D was the major issue tonight and it started with horrendous breakouts up the boards into double coverage all game. No adapting and going up the middle or to the other side.

Yup - I'd call it panic - they were overwhelmed by the speed and skill of the Sabre offense-
From where I sat, they didn't have the puck very often to even make good outlets - and when they did, they had the sabres on them and clean outlets were not much of an option.
This is what it looks like when you are completely outplayed - nothing seems to work because the other team is executing at a much higher level and you're just trying to hang on. I get your point - why didn't we handle the outlets better. Go back and watch a few minutes of the worst parts (I did) and you'll see that the options were not there - everyone was running around trying to defend a much better skill game, and there was nowhere to go. We barely touched the puck for huge segments - and we were getting beat by the speed that these guys used against us. Not just skating, but the speed in their decision making, puck movement, puck handling, everything.
IMO, the best way to defend a team with that kind of possession talent is to be better offensively. We turned it over at the blue line over and over again - and back it went to defending. Our offense through the neutral zone was horrible - and our shot making decisions were just as bad. If we aren't missing the the net, we're over passing. If we run into traffic on their blue, we're forcing plays (more turnovers) - all leading back to defending against a potent offense.
Bones touched on some of this in his post game - we want to be fancy or choose the low percentage play way too much - sounds like he's having trouble getting the message across.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

That was the in many ways the most pathetic game of the season. The “drizzling shits” is how I think the kids are saying it.

The only thing worse than our players decisions was their execution. We must have broken the giveaway meter. Aside from a couple of minutes we deserved to be shut out.

I’m not sure how they didn’t score 10 goals… oh right #37.

The Jets looked like they had bet against them selves to win and were doing everything they could to throw the game.

 

[snowkiddin]

Another second period where the Jets sucked at hockey more than Tommy Wiseau sucks at acting.

Bones needs to get this under control. Completely and entirely unacceptable. Glad they got some boos tonight. This can’t continue.

 

[snowkiddin]

The Jets stunk like an open sewer. They earned their stripes tonight. No one was good. They managed the puck with the grace of a linebacker ballerina. I tuned out part way through the 2nd and played The Witcher 3 instead. The last 2 games have been shite. I'm legitimately angry at how poorly they played.

To continue with the sewer analogy, they took a metaphorical dump on all of their fans’ faces tonight, that’s for sure.

 

[sipowicz]

Back the day there would be 30 pages in the PGT, the give a shit meter on the Jets is now way down!

 

[Truenorthducky]

The team's tired. They will be better after this gong show of this part of the schedule is over with.

We'll be fine.

Dillon really needs some serious prodding to shoot more though - he had some prime looks tonight.

Tired. Oh really. Sabres just played three games and four nights on the road. They look like they were jacked up on steroids. But of course we were tired or maybe lazy is the actual word.

 

[TheBuyckStopsHere]

Piss poor performance we showed up thinking exactly that we can just show up, and get an easy 2 pts.

I'm starting to see bad habits creeping in back again that we had under Maurice..Lowry just freestyling it all the time, and not shooting on sight like Bones wants. Too fancy.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I didn’t like having a rematch against the Sabres so soon and had a bit of a bad feeling. It makes me worry about Philly too.

We need to score some F’n goals and have some good performances.

I think the refs missed at least 5 high sticks to the face (that I saw) on both teams.

On the broadcast it was impossible to tell but did the refs call a penalty on Schmidt for the elbow and then do the review? Or did they only call the penalty after the video review?

 

[voyageur]

I wasn't surprised at all that Buffalo had the pace in this game. This is a Jets team that played 5 in 7 on both coasts before Christmas, got themselves back on track during a homestand, with a big New Year's eve win in Edmonton, but since then the 3 in 4 nights on the road followed up by 5 in 8 nights on the road, the Jets looked tired out there, coming back home.

I give Buffalo credit, they applied a lot of pressure on the defense, conversely when the Jets applied pressure their defense handled it well.

For at least the 1st half of the game I think it was closer than the shot totals indicated. The Jets missed some grade A chances. Getting one early on Comrie I think could have changed the complexion of the game.

While the Jets are playing a relatively healthy, but banged up roster, I still wonder if either of the first two Sabres goals occur if Mason Appleton is out there instead of Karson Kuhlman. I don't know if Power could have outskated Apples like he did to Kuhlman on the first goal, and the second needed a stronger backcheck to avoid the odd man rush and that's an area where Appleton may have negated a scoring chance. .

That said Brendan Dillon had a rough game out there. None of the defense stood out, and I hope that inspires some changes from the coach, because a lot of the troubles were with the defense being a step behind.

I'd like to see Dillon and Schmidt together and Samberg with Pionk, as a better skating pairing going forward. And I think you could make a strong argument right now for putting Samberg out on PK1 instead of Dillon. Maybe Appleton on the top PK instead of Stenlund too, after the all star break. As much as faceoffs are an achilles for this team, until some help arrives.

I hope the Jets can rebound on the homestand. Early in the season the system and the next man up were working, but it's becoming clearer the Jets need to improve in some areas of the game to be competitive. And they may need an improvement in personnel to achieve that. The gap is starting to close with teams behind them having games in hand, you want to keep those teams behind you in the rear view mirror .

I'm happy for Eric Comrie to have the opportunity to play tonight and succeed. For the Sabres fans it's been a long time since they have had anything to cheer about. They look like a young team starting to come together, the dividends of being so bad for so long finally paying off, with no egos either running the show.

 

[Ggg99]

So I watched the Bruins game, they played like a house league team. Tuned into the Jets game just in time to see 3-0. So I started doing laundry. Was trying the futile effort to fold a fitted sheet, and the goal horn went off. So I kept at the fitted sheet thinking that it was good luck. PLD made it 3-2, so I kept going.

The Jets lost, and the fitted sheet still looks like a crumpled ball. I gave it my best. Sorry, all.

 

[Jets 31]

I thought the Stenlund , Axle and Saku line was our best line and that's probably not a good thing . Bowness has to bring the Shooter Tutor out for the next practice, i've never seen the Jets completely miss the net with their shots like last night. Give Buffalo credit they played a good road game. Glad the Jets didn't give up though and if we had another minute we might have tied it up. Lets win the next 2 games and put Samberg back in for Stanley next game.

 

[GNP]

The Jets played with no passion, or will to win until the last 5 minutes, and that's no way to win a game. They were totally dominated by the Sabres speed, and looked like they were not willing to dig down deep, and put out the effort to play with them. Some things I saw , I'd like to see change:

1) I very much like Samberg on defence over Stanley. Samberg moves much better, and makes better decisions with the puck. Play Samberg, he's been good.

2) Jets power play couldn't get any flow to it, and mostly that's because we're losing faceoffs, and the other team, gets possession, and shoots the puck down back in our end. Getting Jonathon Towes who wins 60 % of his faceoffs would help, if we can make that deal financially happen. These faceoff losses have to be fixed. I understand Towes can be acquired for just a second round pick, but the Hawks would have to retain a lot of money to make this happen ?

3) The Jets are trying to get to fancy, and need to be shooting more. Also Scheifele should have scored on that 1st period chance - wide open net.

4) Most importantly, the Jets looked like last years Jets and played with no heart, or grit, and no players for the Jets were penetrating, and taking control and making plays, and with our talent, we need to have guys step up. If you really think about it, the Jets played a lot better when our starters were out, as they played with passion and will to win -- it was evident, and they did great. Our big guns have to start showing up.

All in all, when your outshot 2-1, I don't think you expect a different result, and the Jets have to get their act together before they start spiralling downwards. The biggest problem with this team has always been "consistency." Hope they fix it. The "only time" the Jets looked like they should, was the last 5 minutes of the game, and that's not good enough, trying to win lazy, won't cut it.

 

[The Blue Baron]

Back the day there would be 30 pages in the PGT, the give a shit meter on the Jets is now way down!

Those days are long gone! Likely for good. Jets continue to look like that we’ll be lucky squeeze out 4 pages PGT.

I tuned out 5 mins into the 2nd. Glad I did, what waste of awake time in one’s life. To play like that at home is a disgrace.

Of ya and 0 out of 5 Schwarzeneggers

These guys don’t deserve shit! Is Bones’ message slowly but consistently wearing out for good or are these guys just “tired”.
This does not explain the constantly missing the net, super poor puck management, and the to cute PP along with “hot potatoe” over passing in the O zone.

Whatever!

 

[Beerz]

These "live threads" are horse shit on mobile too.

You can turn them off

 

[surixon]

True. But it`s perhaps time to acknowedge the difficulty we get into generating offence as well. Lot`s of simple execution problems tonight (maybe tired team) but the difference in style between the teams was so noticeable. Sabres carried the puck into our end consistently and generated shots readily - we dumped to nothing and when we did carry on the rush, frequently curled up and never even got a shot off. Don`t think this is a recipe for success .

Agreed, we have looked awful off the rush for a while now. Our players don't seem to know what to do or how to support each other. It's essentially we generate offense if we can gain control of the puck deep and work it around in a 5 man cycle. If we don't gain control we have nights like tonight.

 

[surixon]

Yup - I'd call it panic - they were overwhelmed by the speed and skill of the Sabre offense-
From where I sat, they didn't have the puck very often to even make good outlets - and when they did, they had the sabres on them and clean outlets were not much of an option.
This is what it looks like when you are completely outplayed - nothing seems to work because the other team is executing at a much higher level and you're just trying to hang on. I get your point - why didn't we handle the outlets better. Go back and watch a few minutes of the worst parts (I did) and you'll see that the options were not there - everyone was running around trying to defend a much better skill game, and there was nowhere to go. We barely touched the puck for huge segments - and we were getting beat by the speed that these guys used against us. Not just skating, but the speed in their decision making, puck movement, puck handling, everything.
IMO, the best way to defend a team with that kind of possession talent is to be better offensively. We turned it over at the blue line over and over again - and back it went to defending. Our offense through the neutral zone was horrible - and our shot making decisions were just as bad. If we aren't missing the the net, we're over passing. If we run into traffic on their blue, we're forcing plays (more turnovers) - all leading back to defending against a potent offense.
Bones touched on some of this in his post game - we want to be fancy or choose the low percentage play way too much - sounds like he's having trouble getting the message across.

Agreed that was an issue as well. Scheifele and Wheeler where the biggest culprits imo. I haven't liked Dubois's game much either in the ozone the last week or so. He needs to just start getting the puck straight to the net again. He's trying to be a playmaker and that's not his game.

 

[Jets 31]

Lets see how they play tomorrow because i expect a different team out there. But your top 6 have to produce if you expect to win games and that's 2 games in a row where our top 6 scored 1 goal.

 

[tbcwpg]

I didn’t like having a rematch against the Sabres so soon and had a bit of a bad feeling. It makes me worry about Philly too.

We need to score some F’n goals and have some good performances.

I think the refs missed at least 5 high sticks to the face (that I saw) on both teams.

On the broadcast it was impossible to tell but did the refs call a penalty on Schmidt for the elbow and then do the review? Or did they only call the penalty after the video review?

They called a major which let them do the review, and then changed it to a minor.

 

[surixon]

They called a major which let them do the review, and then changed it to a minor.

Yup, the refs are starting to do that more and more.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Avs losing to a lottery team .... ouch the Avs board must be having a meltdown like the Jets board.

It is not the same thing. The Jets have not looked good during wins or losses recently save for the Pittsburgh game and a stretch of the Toronto game. One can choose to be realistic or one can choose to be optimistic. I think some are just becoming more realistic about what this team is capable of doing

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Every team has rough patches. Let’s hope that’s what this is.

True teams go through that and it is a long season but the last 12 games are very telling and I think this team , which is basically last year's squad has hit the wall and is going to lose more than it wins. Just being realistic. I do not think the sky is falling .

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Avs and Blues both lose tonight so the nights not a total disaster.

Relying on other teams to lose is not a recipe for success at least the Leafs look like a cup contender and could end Canada's drought.

 

[surixon]

True teams go through that and it is a long season but the last 12 games are very telling and I think this team , which is basically last year's squad has hit the wall and is going to lose more than it wins. Just being realistic. I do not think the sky is falling .

I mean we are still 7-5 in that stretch. So even if this is the new norm they will still win more then they lose and make the playoffs easily.

Honestly the team hasn't been that bad lately. Sure we have had a few duds recently which is front and center on most minds but they have played good hockey as well since coming back from the break. It isn't just the Pittaburgh game, they've been full marks in most of their wins in that stretch and lost some games they played well enough to win.

I'm nit overly concerned, they will play out of this skid juat like they have the previous ones.

 

[Jets 31]

Relying on other teams to lose is not a recipe for success at least the Leafs look like a cup contender and could end Canada's drought.

Wow , i choose to not give up on a team that has played well for the majority of the season.