WWE: The Undertaker's Wrestlemania plans not ruined by Strowman!

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Morozov

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Guy like Austin or Rock its easy. Neither have wrestled Taker at Mania, which kayfabe is still considered his yard.

They want that last checkmark on their hall of fame resume and Taker says screw that. Then it builds into a career vs career match as the promos get nastier.

Also either guy can do heelish things for the sake of the story. Taker did it against Brock with the dick punching. It was technically heelish.

Eh I can't buy Rock or Austin coming back for a last "checkmark" on their hall of fame resume because we all know neither of them need it. It doesn't even make them look great because they'd just be swooping in when he'd already lost.

With the streak yes, because they'd be trying to achieve something that nobody has done and that's the drive. Anyone could buy the idea that they want to achieve the seemingly impossible because a great competitor would want to do that. Without the streak that doesn't do much for me.

The crowd doesn't want Taker to be ended. The crowd don't want to be down on a guy like Rock or Austin either.

Having one of those guys against Taker is just having them for the sake of having two big names. With how thin the roster is for Mania if you actually had access to one of those two then I'd rather put them in a program with someone else to disperse them and spread the rub from the legends around anyway.
 

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Eh I can't buy Rock or Austin coming back for a last "checkmark" on their hall of fame resume because we all know neither of them need it. It doesn't even make them look great because they'd just be swooping in when he'd already lost.

With the streak yes, because they'd be trying to achieve something that nobody has done and that's the drive. Anyone could buy the idea that they want to achieve the seemingly impossible because a great competitor would want to do that. Without the streak that doesn't do much for me.

The crowd doesn't want Taker to be ended. The crowd don't want to be down on a guy like Rock or Austin either.

Having one of those guys against Taker is just having them for the sake of having two big names. With how thin the roster is for Mania if you actually had access to one of those two then I'd rather put them in a program with someone else to disperse them and spread the rub from the legends around anyway.

It is pretty much exactly what the last two Brock matches were. Taker was annoyed Heyman was talking trash so he dick punched Brock a couple of times.

There was no reason story wise to be behind Taker in that feud, but because its Taker it worked and the crowds got hot for the matches.
 

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Austin isn't coming back.

He said he has nothing left to prove in the ring, and I believe him.

The Rock can't wrestle at Wrestlemania because it's going to be during production of a movie, and he won't get the insurance for injuries on it.

Check those two guys off, as much as I'd love to see it.

I can see a return happening from injury like Rollins or Cena. They need something to sell Wrestlemania and I think Rollins v Taker could do it, then you have Rollins move on to regain what's his.
 

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Austin isn't coming back.

He said he has nothing left to prove in the ring, and I believe him.

The Rock can't wrestle at Wrestlemania because it's going to be during production of a movie, and he won't get the insurance for injuries on it.

Check those two guys off, as much as I'd love to see it.

I can see a return happening from injury like Rollins or Cena. They need something to sell Wrestlemania and I think Rollins v Taker could do it, then you have Rollins move on to regain what's his.

ZERO chance for Rollins.
 

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It is pretty much exactly what the last two Brock matches were. Taker was annoyed Heyman was talking trash so he dick punched Brock a couple of times.

There was no reason story wise to be behind Taker in that feud, but because its Taker it worked and the crowds got hot for the matches.

Taker/Brock had the streak. It isn't the same. When the streak was around, you had a reason to want to goad Taker into a fight because you wanted a way to be the one to get that opportunity to end it.

Now what you can try goad Taker into is a fight where you can potentially end his career, which is still a good story to sell, but that's something a bad guy should be trying to achieve because finishing someone off, particularly when they're now "weakened" is a bad thing. When it was the streak wanting to end that wasn't inherently "bad" because it was a simple sell from a competitive standpoint that everyone would want to be the one to achieve something nobody had done.

Now you're swooping in on an old, depleted, defeated Undertaker. It's more akin to Mayweather waiting forever to fight Pacman. Wait till he's at his absolute weakest, OK now I want to fight you to prove myself and add you as a notch on my belt. There's nothing good or heroic about that.

Further to that Brock has been around since and while he didn't need that win, he certainly rolled with it.
 
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The Rock can't wrestle at Wrestlemania because it's going to be during production of a movie, and he won't get the insurance for injuries on it.

I actually don't understand this at all. If rock wanted, can't he just pay for any injuries himself? He's not exactly poor.

Not that i expect him to wrestle or anything.
 

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I actually don't understand this at all. If rock wanted, can't he just pay for any injuries himself? He's not exactly poor.

Not that i expect him to wrestle or anything.

Its the insurance company that insures the movie that will not allow it. They cant risk a $100 million dollar plus production shutting down if a star gets hurt so they aren't allowing him to wrestle. Its not a question of a premium payment.
 

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Would mark, for sure. Just don't see how he could possibly be ready to wrestle due to the severity of the injury.

Because he's Crossfit Jesus and is ahead of schedule. They said 6-9 months and six months was right around Mania. Depending on how far ahead, it's definitely feasible for him to be there for Mania. If it was with Taker, I'd just have a mystery opponent setup then put Rollins out there. But I'd almost rather just have him be a surprise guest commentator for the main event.
 

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Because he's Crossfit Jesus and is ahead of schedule. They said 6-9 months and six months was right around Mania. Depending on how far ahead, it's definitely feasible for him to be there for Mania. If it was with Taker, I'd just have a mystery opponent setup then put Rollins out there. But I'd almost rather just have him be a surprise guest commentator for the main event.

I keep reading you say he's ahead of schedule but nothing I've read or heard indicates that he's ahead of schedule.
 

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I keep reading you say he's ahead of schedule but nothing I've read or heard indicates that he's ahead of schedule.

Well, that's not true because you read me saying that so...yeah! I think inquisitr originally reported it on an article at the end of January so I guess it depends on how you feel about that site's credibility for wrestling. I'm not expecting him back for it but if there's anyone besides John Cena that could do it, it would be Rollins. But I would still just prefer him to do a guest spot talking about the main event over actually wrestling. A one-off with Taker where he likely loses on a potential return match is not ideal for me.
 

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Well, that's not true because you read me saying that so...yeah! I think inquisitr originally reported it on an article at the end of January so I guess it depends on how you feel about that site's credibility for wrestling. I'm not expecting him back for it but if there's anyone besides John Cena that could do it, it would be Rollins. But I would still just prefer him to do a guest spot talking about the main event over actually wrestling. A one-off with Taker where he likely loses on a potential return match is not ideal for me.

Inquistr is one of the last sites to use for wrestling news.
 

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Rollins tore his entire knee. There is absolutely no chance he comes back "early" unless you're talking like a couple of weeks, maybe a month early.
Taker's match has already been set and currently rollins is at 3 months with his injury, There's just no way.

He could be the actual john cena, and he still wouldn't be back early. This isn't like cena's baseball elbow situation.
 
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Literally everything would have to go perfectly...all the planets would need to align....Rollins would need to become HGH Jesus....everything needs to go right for Rollins to be close to returning and even then he wouldn't make it.
 

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I actually don't understand this at all. If rock wanted, can't he just pay for any injuries himself? He's not exactly poor.

Not that i expect him to wrestle or anything.

He would basically have to pay for the entire movie. He can't afford that. He needs to be insured or he isn't wrestling.

And it won't be Seth for so many reasons. It makes no sense, he completely blew his knee out and isn't realistically going to be healthy enough to work a match at Mania.

I'm still sticking that money and a Mania match convinced Batista to go. His filming schedule with Guardians I would guess is lighter, especially since it just started.
 

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Maybe Chris Benoit?

Music hits and the rabid wolverine is out! "IT'S NOT MY FAULT"
 

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Maybe Chris Benoit?

Music hits and the rabid wolverine is out! "IT'S NOT MY FAULT"

Sorry. Benoit will be busy in the first ever hologram match against Eddie Guerrero.

"Grudge From The Grave" match.
 

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He would basically have to pay for the entire movie. He can't afford that. He needs to be insured or he isn't wrestling.

And it won't be Seth for so many reasons. It makes no sense, he completely blew his knee out and isn't realistically going to be healthy enough to work a match at Mania.

I'm still sticking that money and a Mania match convinced Batista to go. His filming schedule with Guardians I would guess is lighter, especially since it just started.

He literally called Titus and told him to request a release after he was suspended. He's carving out a nice career for himself in movies.

I'm going Cena or Rock.
 

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He would basically have to pay for the entire movie. He can't afford that. He needs to be insured or he isn't wrestling.

And it won't be Seth for so many reasons. It makes no sense, he completely blew his knee out and isn't realistically going to be healthy enough to work a match at Mania.

I'm still sticking that money and a Mania match convinced Batista to go. His filming schedule with Guardians I would guess is lighter, especially since it just started.

Taker already beat batista at mania. That would be god awful.
Plus batista already pointed out how ****ing stupid the main roster creative is and that he wouldn't waste his time again unless it was something good.
 

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He literally called Titus and told him to request a release after he was suspended. He's carving out a nice career for himself in movies.

I'm going Cena or Rock.

He also said he does want to come back to wrestling for a retirement angle. I don't think him tweeting about Titus changed that opinion.
 

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Rollins tore his entire knee. There is absolutely no chance he comes back "early" unless you're talking like a couple of weeks, maybe a month early.
Taker's match has already been set and currently rollins is at 3 months with his injury, There's just no way.

He could be the actual john cena, and he still wouldn't be back early. This isn't like cena's baseball elbow situation.

Tearing your entire knee is often better than just tearing one ligament. This isn't like Cena's elbow but it's not nearly as bad as you think it is.
 
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