Value of: The Time has come: Preds Fire Sale

[NHL Dude 120]

What's the asking price for Saros? We do need to have a long term stable situation in net in Ottawa. Foresberg would need to be added in addition to a a first round pick but ours is pretty high ATM. I'd be hesitant to do that deal tbh unless our 1st was after the 16th pick.

 

[biturbo19]

What would you have to get added to Brock Boeser, to get to Ryan Johansen?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

What would you have to get added to Brock Boeser, to get to Ryan Johansen?

I don’t think there’s any realistic way to make that happen. The Preds need what Johansen brings far far more than Boeser.

If the Preds don’t turn things around, I’d be open to trading Johansen for futures and a rest-of-this-season-only Cap balancer back. But more years back is a non-starter.

What's the asking price for Saros? We do need to have a long term stable situation in net in Ottawa. Foresberg would need to be added in addition to a a first round pick but ours is pretty high ATM. I'd be hesitant to do that deal tbh unless our 1st was after the 16th pick.

Saros will not be available at all until Askarov is ready. Which could be never.

 

[Smitty426]

Jeannot would bring in a deal like Hagel got with actual prospects attached.

Two 1sts? Overpayment!

 

[biturbo19]

I don’t think there’s any realistic way to make that happen. The Preds need what Johansen brings far far more than Boeser.

If the Preds don’t turn things around, I’d be open to trading Johansen for futures and a rest-of-this-season-only Cap balancer back. But more years back is a non-starter.


Saros will not be available at all until Askarov is ready. Which could be never.

Fair enough.

The same reason i'd want to swap Boeser for Johansen is pretty much the reason it doesn't make any sense for Nashville. It was just a thought that popped into my head for a second.

 

[Gurglesons]

Two 1sts? Overpayment!

800k bottom sixer that can put up 20+ and beat the shit out of anyone in the league who is an RFA?

Hagel got 2 1sts and the equivalent of 2 2nds.

 

[Smitty426]

800k bottom sixer that can put up 20+ and beat the shit out of anyone in the league who is an RFA?

Hagel got 2 1sts and the equivalent of 2 2nds.

I know what Hagel got, that's how I got to overpayment. That return won't happen

 

[Gurglesons]

I know what Hagel got, that's how I got to overpayment. That return won't happen

Well, Nashville isn’t moving a unicorn like Jeannot so I agree.

 

[Fjordy]

Olofsson + Jokiharju for Fabbro or Carrier

 

[Vukotal Recall]

So, when I look through the long list of Preds players offered for trade here, at all positions, they seem... like, good. It's actually impressive just how many quality players the Preds have. So why exactly are they (ostensibly) in such dire straits?

 

[Fjordy]

So, when I look through the long list of Preds players offered for trade here, at all positions, they seem... like, good. It's actually impressive just how many quality players the Preds have. So why exactly are they (ostensibly) in such dire straits?

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Five points out of first and yet to play their best hockey.

Sure, blow this up.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

That $6.75 mil would've been better spent on a top 6 forward.

My hunch would be because he's Ryan McDonagh.

He's a big reason the Lightning were in the Finals the last three seasons.

Edit: Meant as a reply to @Fjordy

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Would love to add Jeannot + Scissons to the leafs. I'd offer 2023 1st, Nick Robertson, Hirvonen, 2024 2nd, Anderson and kerfoot to match the cap for Jeannot + Scissons.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Well, Nashville isn’t moving a unicorn like Jeannot so I agree.

Exactly. People could throw around 5 1st round picks as a talking point, and it still wouldn't matter, the Preds are simply not moving Jeannot. He's core to pretty much everything the team is trying to do right now, and the organization is not interested in any lengthy tanking process.

Now, if Jeannot comes into his RFA negotiations in the summer and demands $8M a year on a long-term contract or something, then maybe the thinking could change on him. But it will take some bizarre and unexpected scenario like that arising for the Preds to have any motivation to even consider trading him.

 

[Vukotal Recall]

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I thought Hynes was one of the absolute worst coaches in the league (which is saying something) when he was with the Devils, but then it seemed he somehow miraculously changed his ways down south. Guess not.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Exactly. People could throw around 5 1st round picks as a talking point, and it still wouldn't matter, the Preds are simply not moving Jeannot. He's core to pretty much everything the team is trying to do right now, and the organization is not interested in any lengthy tanking process.

Now, if Jeannot comes into his RFA negotiations in the summer and demands $8M a year on a long-term contract or something, then maybe the thinking could change on him. But it will take some bizarre and unexpected scenario like that arising for the Preds to have any motivation to even consider trading him.

If Jeannot is asking for 8 mill a year the preds can't trade him because no team would pay him that including Nashville. So either way he stays a pred.

 

[I am Canadian]

Is Ekholm still playing like a top pairing guy or is he more of a top 4 defender?

 

[Soundgarden]

American Thanksgiving is only 3 games out, may want to wait until Christmas

And just like that we've won three in a row since this thread started.

 

[Bone Breaker]

Sissons would be an interesting name to help the Avs depth.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

And just like that we've won three in a row since this thread started.

I still don’t like Hynes. Lol

 

[Soundgarden]

I still don’t like Hynes. Lol

Same, but that doesn't mean we should trade off guys like Saros or Jeannot

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Is Ekholm still playing like a top pairing guy or is he more of a top 4 defender?

Eh, it's always a little hard to tell when a guy plays the same side behind a Norris-level guy? But I would say Ekholm is a bit down from his peak, last season and this so far, both. Although he's still the 2nd-best defenseman on the Preds, and would be on many teams, so whether being "#2" or "2nd pair LD" or "top 4" can all be true at the same time... ?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Sissons would be an interesting name to help the Avs depth.

Most of the names mentioned in this thread were never available to begin with. Some could be depending on the Preds sucking so bad that they mini-tank the rest of this season. But outside of all that, the Preds have a bit of a jam-up at forward, so I think there are a few guys who MIGHT become available independent of all that:

Tolvanen - good but the coach doesn't seem to appreciate him
Trenin - good but the GM might not have liked him going to arbitration
Sissons - paid to be a premium bottom-6 center... which he has been throughout past seasons... but... there is never a lot of slack in that particular niche, and so far he hasn't quite been up to his usual standards, so the contract premium always starts to become a little uncomfortable in such cases.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

If you’re trading everyone, why not trade Forsberg and Josi.

You can’t have no centres, no goalie, your two best players as D and W, and do anything in the NHL.

Edmonton would/should offer up everything they have and more to get Josi.