The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step

[Rapala]

Never argued for or against. I wouldn't call beating WPG, Vegas and the Leafs a fluke either.

True the fluke was getting the opportunity to play them not the fact that the Big Guns stepped up and trounced them.

 

[FerrisRox]

Key assets to load up on are Dmen and C. Wingers are typically not going to get your a C/D in return in trade unless you are dealing a higher end offensive winger away, like a Hall for Larsson type of move.

How did you arrive at this conclusion, cause it really feels like you just made it up.

If you look at some of the biggest trades ever for defenseman, you might be surprised by what the key piece going the other way was...

Paul Coffey to Pittsburgh ... key piece coming back, winger Craig Simpson.

Ray Bourque to Colorado ... going the other way wingers Brian Rolston and Dave Andreychuk.

Chris Pronger to Hartford ... going the other way, winger Brendan Shanahan. (He was traded two other times with winger Joffrey Lupul the major piece coming back. Shanahan also goes from New Jersey to St. Louis... for Scott Stevens)

Rob Blake to Colorado ... winger Adam Deadmarsh is the key piece of the return.

The idea that wingers can't be traded for top defensemen is silly.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We still don’t make the playoffs with a normal schedule that year. That’s the reality. Anyone who thinks Price and Weber get a 1+ month rest going into those playoffs in any other division is coping or just lying.

I agree.

But it doesn’t matter. What an awesome run. I’ve had Leaf fans try to tell me ‘it didn’t count’ and then I remind them that we beat the crap out if them along the way.

But you’re right, apart from Price the team has sucked since MB blew it up in 2017. We wasted Carey Price’s career.

 

[Rapala]

How did you arrive at this conclusion, cause it really feels like you just made it up.

If you look at some of the biggest trades ever for defenseman, you might be surprised by what the key piece going the other way was...

Paul Coffey to Pittsburgh ... key piece coming back, winger Craig Simpson.

Ray Bourque to Colorado ... going the other way wingers Brian Rolston and Dave Andreychuk.

Chris Pronger to Hartford ... going the other way, winger Brendan Shanahan. (He was traded two other times with winger Joffrey Lupus the major piece coming back. Shanahan also goes from New Jersey to St. Louis... for Scott Stevens)

Rob Blake to Colorado ... winger Adam Deadmarsh is the key piece of the return.

The idea that wingers can't be traded for top defensemen is silly.

Some fans probably did call him Joffrey Lupus.

 

[Sorinth]

I think saying “be patient, it’s a rebuild” in response to people commenting on individual players and their regression is meaningless. It basically means “don’t complain, because I don’t like to see it”.

Not to be rude about it, but chances are people are finding your post criticizing the player(s) as meaningless.

 

[ReHabs]

Not to be rude about it, but chances are people are finding your post criticizing the player(s) as meaningless.

What?! It’s a sports discussion board!

What else would we do than discuss players?? Everyone here expects to read posts about players and their performances. That’s why we’re here.

 

[junyab]

How did you arrive at this conclusion, cause it really feels like you just made it up.

If you look at some of the biggest trades ever for defenseman, you might be surprised by what the key piece going the other way was...

Paul Coffey to Pittsburgh ... key piece coming back, winger Craig Simpson.

Ray Bourque to Colorado ... going the other way wingers Brian Rolston and Dave Andreychuk.

Chris Pronger to Hartford ... going the other way, winger Brendan Shanahan. (He was traded two other times with winger Joffrey Lupus the major piece coming back. Shanahan also goes from New Jersey to St. Louis... for Scott Stevens)

Rob Blake to Colorado ... winger Adam Deadmarsh is the key piece of the return.

The idea that wingers can't be traded for top defensemen is silly.

I'd say you have a pretty weak point to make if your examples are from 20+ years ago. It's VERY true that superstar/star wingers are valued less than superstar/star centers/defensemen. This isn't even up for debate.