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Dach was great before his injury. I don’t agree there. As for Newhook, I like him more as a winger.
The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step
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Lafleurs Guy
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-8 is meaningless. A lot of that happened with us pulling the goalie and playing behind…
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How about- for the time being (let’s say a season or two) give the « C » to a veteran player like Matheson or Savard ? Suzuki doesn’t seem to be ready for the job, and it would take a ton of pressure off his shoulders, if only for the pressure by some MTL medias , who are blaming him to not be bilingual yet. Matheson is well respected in the room.
Newhook was getting pretty good at center last season with Gally and Armia as his wingers.
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Habs need to find a way to get a stud C. Dach has a lot to prove still and the only other potential candidates are Hage/Demidov. Which are years away. This team would look so much better with two legit top 6 C's, and guys like Slaf/CC/Laine/Demidov on the wings.
Maybe through this year draft we get one.
Maybe through this year draft we get one.
Sorinth
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And we're back full circle to being impatient, not understanding what a rebuild would actually entail, and temper tantrums.I will settle for not getting out shot by 10 shots a game, getting schooled every night or watching them chase in their own end for minutes at a time but if that’s the hockey you enjoy, you do you.
ok, you got me, they look just fine in their own end, lol. MSL fans
In the MIX, baby!!!
26Mats
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Monahan would have been great. But 5 years was risky.
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I've said from the very beginning that our competitive window opens when Suzuki and Caufield are around thirty; we just have to hope that they develop further, given their contracts, and hold up until then and that the other contracts that we sign, and players that we draft, actually pan out.
All those who believed that we could somehow achieve success through a "three-year rebuild" were terribly optimistic, or failed to understand the true depth of the organizational dead weight and rot, some of which has been added to, rather than removed, during the process.
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Temper tantrums, hahaha, the best!!!
Tell me, oh mighty one, how is getting blitzed in their own end every night an ok thing in yr 3/4 of the rebuild?
Some MSL fans
A 8 yr rebuild, 5 more yrs, hahaha.
Heck, they might as well trade NS & CC now.
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Spearmint Rhino
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The next step is backwards by the looks of it, we will pick in the Top 3 after 2 years at 5 and hopefully another pick mid-teens
And I could honestly care less as we weren't competing this year, Laine addition was fun for some excitement but that was never going to move us up 10 spots. This TDL and next offseason will determine if we are in perennial rebuild or if we are truly moving towards being in the mix
And I could honestly care less as we weren't competing this year, Laine addition was fun for some excitement but that was never going to move us up 10 spots. This TDL and next offseason will determine if we are in perennial rebuild or if we are truly moving towards being in the mix
Sorinth
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What else would we call it when after seeing consecutive years of improvements on the defensive side of things wanting to fire the coach for not seeing even more improvements in the first 7 games?Temper tantrums, hahaha, the best!!!
Tell me, oh mighty one, how is getting blitzed in their own end every night an ok thing in yr 3/4 of the rebuild?
Some MSL fans
A 8 yr rebuild, 5 more yrs, hahaha.
Heck, they might as well trade NS & CC now.
And like I said you clearly don't understand what a rebuild actually takes. 4 years after drafting MacKinnon you know where Colorado was? At the bottom of the league drafting Makar with the 4th OA pick. And since Landeskog was drafted 2 years before MacKinnon we could even say that was year 6 of the rebuild. Or how about Tampa, you know where they were in year 5 after drafting Stamkos? They were drafting Drouin at 3rd OA. Or how about Pittsburgh, if we genourously say the rebuild started not when they started drafting high but when they got MAF then in year 4 guess where they were picking, 2nd OA.
Habby4Life
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They are last in almost all D stats.
Once again, tell me how this team looks better defensively or has progressed?
It’s worse and Bombay better figure it out soon. If he can’t, then yes punt him.
ReimanSum1908
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Look at the Senators and Sabres.Some MSL fans
A 8 yr rebuild, 5 more yrs, hahaha.
Heck, they might as well trade NS & CC now.
We're far worse off after our first three years of the rebuild than either of those two teams were at the same point.
And you're absolutely right: the two of them should be traded because this rebuild has likely failed. The chances of actually being competitive when they are around thirty is almost nonexistent.
We drafted high in the absolute worst years, 2022 and 2023.
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2021-2022: 32nd in GA
2022-2023: 29th in GA
2023-2024: 27th in GA
2024-2025: With only 7 games played we are once again 27th in GA/G
If you can't see progress that says more about you then it does the team.
We could had Michkov and Demidov. We tried to outsmart everyone and went with a right defenseman that was injured pre draft. Why do we often go with a player with an injury history? Our picks are often injured, Guhle, Slafkovsky, Reinbacher, etc. We trade for injured players, Dach, Laine, etc. For our rebuild go with talent and ideally no serious injury history like shoulder, back or knee injuries.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
He is one of the best players on the team right now.
There is no reason for him to go to Laval.
He will take his lumps but he always comes back out and plays the same way, nothing is going to hurt this kid.
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Grate n Colorful Oz
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Meanwhile Michkov is -9 in 7 games.
It's kinda normal when rookies are shoehorned at the top of the lineup on a rebuilding team.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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No, it won't. There's a process many are overlooking. If a team is in a rebuild, it's because their talent base is low. Because that talent base is low, they pick high and keep picking high until the players they picked start to stock up that talent base year after year.
We're literally 2 years removed from our first rebuild draft and all the players we drafted since starting the rebuild are between 18 and 20 years old. Our talent base is still low and the players we drafted won't fully impact the team until 2-3 years from now.
Faltering next year won't mean we're in a perpetual rebuild. It simply means our drafts are too recent to have an impact, yet those drafts are exactly what will eventually raise our stock.
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To all those that don't know, the reason HuGo said the goal this year was to be "in the mix" wasn't because if we don't end up being in the mix the season is a failure at this point, or we're not where we're supposed to be. Rather they said that because they can't come out and say we'll perhaps be bottom 5 again this year. They can't say that to the players who play to win. But they must have known with this roster and the potential for injuries that, ok maybe we could fight for a playoff spot, but for sure it was possible we'd be bottom 5 again.
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Max Lapierre pointed out how slow this team is Suzuki slow Dach slow Slaf slow Gallagher slow Armia slow Dvorak slow Savard slow.
Caufield and Hutson both agile but not fast. Evans Heineman Anderson Newhook along with a couple of our Dmen represent the only speed we have.
He thinks a trade or some sort of transaction has to be made sooner than later to shake this team up.
He didn't seem overly impressed with Kapanen either. He wants Heineman bumped top 6 and I agree.
I remember a couple of seasons ago we ended up having Jake Evans playing on Suzuki's wing for a game I immediately noticed a difference in Nick's pace.
Nick Suzuki will always be at his best when he is moving out there and dictating pace he likes to slow the play down which is fine.
The thing is it won't work if you are playing slow to begin with. We definitely need more speed merchants.
Caufield and Hutson both agile but not fast. Evans Heineman Anderson Newhook along with a couple of our Dmen represent the only speed we have.
He thinks a trade or some sort of transaction has to be made sooner than later to shake this team up.
He didn't seem overly impressed with Kapanen either. He wants Heineman bumped top 6 and I agree.
I remember a couple of seasons ago we ended up having Jake Evans playing on Suzuki's wing for a game I immediately noticed a difference in Nick's pace.
Nick Suzuki will always be at his best when he is moving out there and dictating pace he likes to slow the play down which is fine.
The thing is it won't work if you are playing slow to begin with. We definitely need more speed merchants.
