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It's weird. CC had like one assist recently too and Hutson has no goals.
The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step
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salbutera
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Recall, Nathan MacKinnon was labeled a 1OA bust 4-years into his NHL career, and the Avs sucked donkey dong despite having Nate, Rantannen, Landeskog - wasn’t until Makar came in claiming top pairing D role
NHL is a very difficult league with tremendous pro scouts looking for players weaknesses, and requires players to constantly adjust their game trends
Crosby & McDavid’s are literally generational - once in 20-25 year players…not the norm 1OA or top-5 pick
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The fact you believe the Sharks started their rebuild a year before firing their GM is...interesting.
Still they didn't tank properly until Grier showed up.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
No they didn't tank properly until Grier showed up, but they still had two back to back years before that when they had top 10 or just outside picks they added to their pool.
It's a bit different than our situation where Bergevin was specifically trying to compete and we were drafting at the end of the first round when they were drafting Eklund in the top 10 and were never a playoff team since then.
You do realize that without Covid, Habs wouldn't have made the playoffs since 2016-2017...
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
I do realize that.. but they did, so they didn't have top 10 picks in subsequent years prior to the year Bergevin got fired and we installed that new management group.
However you want to phrase it, the Sharks had two years before Grier when they were picking in or a spot outside of the top 10, which means they were adding (if they didn't trade down) top 10 drafted prospects in their pool in consecutive years before we ever did.
The other pick traded down was at 11th going by the previous posts.
Eklund is the only top 10 pick in those two years.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
The other pick traded down was at 11th going by the previous posts.
Top 10 or a spot outside of the top 10 is the phrasing I used in my post.
Habby4Life
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Nothing wrong with a rebuild.
The problem I have is this year they don’t compete every night. In fact, most nights they look disinterested. They are beyond horrible defensively, and too many of the young guys have regressed.
In addition, I don’t think the prospect pool is all that great. Outside Demidov and Fowler everyone else is meh. Slaf isn’t a game changer, DR who knows, and Huston, there is a lot to like but I’m not convinced defensively he will be a top 4 guy.
The problem I have is this year they don’t compete every night. In fact, most nights they look disinterested. They are beyond horrible defensively, and too many of the young guys have regressed.
In addition, I don’t think the prospect pool is all that great. Outside Demidov and Fowler everyone else is meh. Slaf isn’t a game changer, DR who knows, and Huston, there is a lot to like but I’m not convinced defensively he will be a top 4 guy.
I agreed with you on that. Is impossible to predict the future of a NHL team. Not many people had the Habs in the bottom 3. But at the same time, San Jose does have a strong core of player at every position. They have a good chance of being a successful rebuild.
1G - Askarov
1C - Celebrini
2C - Smith
1-2D - Dickinson
Is a solid core to build around.
There is more uncertainty as well. It’s hard to judge a lot of the moves because a lot of factors are uncontrollable.
You’re right, though, we won’t really know how things are going for another 2 years. The rebuild would have been faster if Kidney, Farrell, and Roy had gone pro more easily. So far the acceleration moves look bad, so it will go longer.
habbubba
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WWT! No way! you're saying the A is for intent and attempt at rebuilding. Do you also happen to sell swampland on the side too? lol
No rebuild gets an A until they actually get over the hump and start making the playoffs again. Right now they dont look any better than where the Sabres were at years ago after drafting Eichel, Reinhart ect. I really like the Slafkovsky, Demidov and Hage pick, not a fan of the Reinbacher pick. Too soon to tell but for now il give the rebuild a B.
The Gr8 Dane
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Haha you guy's can't handle the rebuild 
Just say you miss Patches and DD guys
Just say you miss Patches and DD guys
LaP
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Plot twist Michel Therien owns 50 alternate accounts on hfboardsHaha you guy's can't handle the rebuild
Just say you miss Patches and DD guys
So this is my take on the rebuild. At 60, I don’t have the time or patience to be going through 5 year rebuilds, even though this is the Habs first true rebuild. I want the team to suck during this 5 year period. I don’t care about making the playoffs, just getting the highest draft picks possible and letting the players develop. And for me that’s the key. No rushing players along, if they’re not ready for the NHL, they stay in the minors and develop properly. Let’s not bring in high priced talent if the talent doesn’t have the same age as the core pieces already on the team.
As for the rebuild grade, I would give it an A for now. If Kent starts making moves to speed up the rebuild, my grade would likely change if the moves are just made to get the team into the playoffs to appease some fans. Do this rebuild properly, no matter how mad fans are at missing the playoffs. We aren’t cup contenders, to me making the playoffs before the rebuild is completed properly will only set the rebuild back. We don’t want to be the Buffalo Sabres who seem to be in a continuous rebuild.
Did I mention I was 60?
As for the rebuild grade, I would give it an A for now. If Kent starts making moves to speed up the rebuild, my grade would likely change if the moves are just made to get the team into the playoffs to appease some fans. Do this rebuild properly, no matter how mad fans are at missing the playoffs. We aren’t cup contenders, to me making the playoffs before the rebuild is completed properly will only set the rebuild back. We don’t want to be the Buffalo Sabres who seem to be in a continuous rebuild.
Did I mention I was 60?
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What if the rebuild is being done badly — or wastefulyl?
We failed to win 1OA for Bedard, we failed to win 1OA for Celebrini, we didn’t get Carlsson (big 1C), and according to our own GM, we didn’t get the “1D dman” we sorely need in any of the last three tanks/drafts.
What if having a coach who doesn’t know how to teach winning to a young NHL roster isn’t good for the rebuild (but it’s certainly helps in the quest to lose)?
It’s time for questions to be asked. You don’t want to find yourself defending a shitheap built by shitheads after five years has passed.
We failed to win 1OA for Bedard, we failed to win 1OA for Celebrini, we didn’t get Carlsson (big 1C), and according to our own GM, we didn’t get the “1D dman” we sorely need in any of the last three tanks/drafts.
What if having a coach who doesn’t know how to teach winning to a young NHL roster isn’t good for the rebuild (but it’s certainly helps in the quest to lose)?
It’s time for questions to be asked. You don’t want to find yourself defending a shitheap built by shitheads after five years has passed.
Egresch
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I expect at least .500 for the rest of season. That would lead them to 78 points which is 2 points above last year. Next season, no more excuses, they have to reach for playoff spot.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
Barring injuries and crossing fingers. We're one core player injury away from a top 3 pick.
nhlfan9191
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You would be able to smell the cigarette smoke threw your screen if Therrien had 50 alternate accounts on here.
Egresch
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They had no Laine, Dach last year as well, so injuries would not be an excuse for me.
Vachon23
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Love their new Head Coach Ryan Warsofsky too, I think he’s gonna be one of the best HC in the league
Vachon23
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In 2008 when Kovalev/Koivu where on their final year of there contract and we had young players like Kostitsyn/Plekanec/Latendresse/Price as young players but because of the 100 years anniversary, we couldn’t do that
LaP
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After 25 games last year they were
25 GP - 11 W (5 RW) - 11 L - 3 OTL - 25 points - 70 GF 87 GA
This year after 25
25 GP - 9 W (7 RW) - 13 L - 3 OTL - 21 points - 70 GF 94 GA
I understand people were expecting progression but like it has been said many times progression is not linear. Honestly they have scored the same amount of goals. They have 2 more RW than last year. The difference is mostly that they have allowed 7 more goals which can be explained by Primeau sucking this year and finally they have less OTW which could be a fluke OTW and L vary a lot from year to year.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
Both players missed a whole year. Your expectations don't seem to account for that. They are not robots.
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