The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Nick can do it. He filled the role on a finals team as practically a rookie.

He didn't. He was used as exploitation as soon as the team had first changeup. Danault was used as shutdown against the top lines. You could see it with Danault being paired with Weber on most shifts and Suzuki being paired with Petry. Go look it up, Suzuki got most of his points when Petry was with him.

Not saying he can't. Just saying that he wasn't in the cup run.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

No A stands for finally rebuilding after 2 decades of bad hockey .

Lots of tanking left buckle up. I love it

We may wind up with another high pick this year. Not what I wanted but not a terrible outcome either.

The fans thought we were gonna a cup with Suzuki at 1C and Caufield at 1W.

What did they think the tank was for? Newhook and Dach?

Dach’s situation is so freaking sad. The guy can’t buy a break. I’m still hopeful he can find his game again.

 

[BozoTheClown]

Next step is to send Dach to a competent sport psychologist.
Have him watch videos of Players that came back from injuries and still worked their asses off, battled hard and maintained a strong performance on the ice.
Have him watch videos of smaller players like St-Louis, Fleury, Caufield, Mikita and so on, maybe that’ll wake him up.

If it doesn’t, we will know exactly why Chicago dumped him.

 

[RealityBytes]

Next 5 moves aren't likely going to be the things that make the Habs a contender, ie dumping Dvorak is probably going to be one of those next 5 moves, needs to be done, but is rather meaningless in terms of turning us into a contender.

As for what long term we need to be a contender, we need some combination of better scoring, better defence, better goaltending. We are at a point where we kind of still need to wait and see because some of that is already going to move forward without any moves. For example Demidov coming over, and being a game breaker, it's not happening this year, and it might take a couple years for him to really hit his stride and be dominant. But it's anyones guess as to whether that will be enough to move our offence from middle of the pack (19th currently) to say top-5.

It won't be, even if Demidov has Mitch Marner type stats. Better offence won't do much if there is still poor defense. One player is not enough to move the Habs from bottom of the pack in the standings to top 5. More likely they would end up like Buffalo or Ottawa.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

It won't be, even if Demidov he has Mitch Marner type stats. One player is not enough to move the Habs from bottom of the pack to top 5. More likely they will end up like Buffalo or Ottawa.

One player can make a huge difference though. That’s why Dach being bad has hurt us so much. Imagine if he were playing well. That would help guys like Newhook and Roy be better. It’s a snowball effect throughout the lineup.

Another thing, next year we’ll probably see Beck, Mailloux, Roy, Demidov and maybe even RB become regular players. There’s a huge influx of talent on the way.

 

[RealityBytes]

One player can make a huge difference though. That’s why Dach being bad has hurt us so much. Imagine if he were playing well. That would help guys like Newhook and Roy be better. It’s a snowball effect throughout the lineup.

Another thing, next year we’ll probably see Beck, Mailloux, Roy, Demidov and maybe even RB become regular players. There’s a huge influx of talent on the way.

Dach has shown what he is, so has Newhook.

Demidov and Beck have played a total of one game in the NHL. Don't over estimate them from their hype. Mailloux and Roy show closer to being average. There is a huge influx, coming, but if it is only average talent, it won't do anything.

I think you are being overly optimistic with what is coming. The Habs may get somewhat better, but not enough to make the top three in the division.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Dach has shown what he is, so has Newhook.

Demidov and Beck have played a total of one game in the NHL. Don't over estimate them from their hype. Mailloux and Roy show closer to being average. There is a huge influx, coming, but if it is only average talent, it won't do anything.

I think you are being overly optimistic with what is coming. The Habs may get somewhat better, but not enough to make the top three in the division.

I think Dach deserves more time, he looked really good before injury and in those 2 games last season he looked absolutely dominant. I would definitely bench him for a few right now to take some pressure off of him and maybe allow him to reset.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Dach has shown what he is, so has Newhook.

Both showed a lot more last year.

Demidov and Beck have played a total of one game in the NHL. Don't over estimate them from their hype. Mailloux and Roy show closer to being average. There is a huge influx, coming, but if it is only average talent, it won't do anything.

Some prospects will pan out and some won’t. That’s true for sure. But there’s a whole whack of young talent on the way. And I didn’t even mention Fowler.

I think you are being overly optimistic with what is coming. The Habs may get somewhat better, but not enough to make the top three in the division.

Next year? Probably not. But I don’t care. I care that we’re building towards a cup. Long term I feel like we’re on the right track.

There will be bumps along the way. I thought Dach and Newhook would form a solid second with maybe Roy this year and none of that has worked out. So maybe we need to make changes - that’s okay. Audibles will happen.

What matters is that we’ve got a deep talented pool coming up. Some of those guys will work out and we can go from there.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Both showed a lot more last year.

Some prospects will pan out and some won’t. That’s true for sure. But there’s a whole whack of young talent on the way. And I didn’t even mention Fowler.


Next year? Probably not. But I don’t care. I care that we’re building towards a cup. Long term I feel like we’re on the right track.

There will be bumps along the way. I thought Dach and Newhook would form a solid second with maybe Roy this year and none of that has worked out. So maybe we need to make changes - that’s okay. Audibles will happen.

What matters is that we’ve got a deep talented pool coming up. Some of those guys will work out and we can go from there.

The important thing right now is they need to find a way to juice Slafkovsky, Newhook and Dach in particular.

But it's hard to see that coming when Marty won't even hold Dvorak or Matheson accountable.

I've got a whole lot more patience than most of this board which has gone way way too negative because they certainly don't understand what a rebuild looks like but Marty hasn't shown he's got a willingness to learn what he needs to learn to push things forward.

The problem is the talent pool of French speaking coaches is beyond horrible. I can't think of anyone but Montgomery who I would hire, and he got fired a year too early.

 

[Kennedys]

I'm still watching the games because of Suzuki, Caufield and Hutson