Blue Jays Discussion: The "So, How About Them Blue Jays?" Edition. [1.5 Games ahead of Yankees]

[Cloned]

You have Cleveland passing Houston for the 2nd WC and Texas passes them for the West? They're 8 games behind now. That's risky.

Yeah, I think Houston is going to have an awful September.

 

[Cloned]

Jays in East
Royals in Central
Astros in West
Yankees and Angels in Wildcard

Mets in East
Cards in Central
Dodgers in West
Cubs and Pirates in Wildcard

I think the Angels are done.

 

[Halladay]

Trout is hurt, that means the Angels are finished.

 

[theaub]

WC: Houston @ New York
ALDS 1: WC Winner @ Kansas City
ALDS 2: Texas @ Toronto

WC: Chicago @ St Louis
NLDS 1: WC Winner @ Pittsburgh
NLDS 2: New York @ Los Angeles

In both leagues, the top record gets screwed IMO - would much rather face the AL West/NL West winners than the WC winner likely

 

[theaub]

Also about a month or so back when I was going through the top run scoring teams I said something like 'every team that's led the league in runs by 70+ has won 95 games, guess that will change this year'

It might...not? 21-11 the rest of the way all of the sudden doesn't seem that crazy

 

[garce]

so let me get this straight, you wanted to promote AA to Presidant so you wouldn't lose AA and all the good he's done for the team with regards to trades and drafting and whatnot, when by putting him in the President position those things wouldn't be his job but the new GM, so you'd be losing out on all that stuff anyway?

Nobody is going to suddenly offer AA a President job, and you don't just promote him to President because the spot is open. People stay GM's for a long time, how long as Billy Beane been a GM for Oakland? How come they haven't promoted him to president yet? How come someone else hasn't offered him a presidents job yet?

People were overreacting and calling for AA to be fired just a short month and a half ago when we were under .500, no need to overreact and go the other way. Drafting development and trades is what he does best, why not keep him in the GM position now that he's finally built a team and let him continue on that road? Assuming he resigns of course because he's a free agent this offseason.

Yes and why not keep Beeston who AA seems to have a good relationship with.

 

[tp71]

Yes and why not keep Beeston who AA seems to have a good relationship with.

Beeston wants to retire

 

[Cloned]

WC: Houston @ New York
ALDS 1: WC Winner @ Kansas City
ALDS 2: Texas @ Toronto

WC: Chicago @ St Louis
NLDS 1: WC Winner @ Pittsburgh
NLDS 2: New York @ Los Angeles

In both leagues, the top record gets screwed IMO - would much rather face the AL West/NL West winners than the WC winner likely

You think Pittsburgh is going to pass the Cardinals?

 

[Woodman19]

I hope Shapiro keeps AA but puts a bigger emphasis on analytics and player development and let AA continue the scouting and drafting/signings.

 

[garce]

Beeston wants to retire

Not so sure according to Pascal in the opinion article in the Star. He thinks he could be convinced.

 

[Just Rude]

AL East: Jays by 5
AL Central: Royals by 15
AL West: Texas by 1

Wild Card: Houston over Yankees


NL East: Mets by 8
NL Central: Cards by 7
NL West: Dodgers by 6
Wild Card: Cubs over Pittsburgh

ALDS: Royals over Houston, Jays over Texas
NLDS: Cards over Cubs, Dodgers over Mets

ALCS: Jays over Royals (payback for '85)
NLCS: Cards over Dodgers

World Series: Bluebirds vs Redbirds

 

[Just Rude]

So here are my predictions for September:

- Houston chokes down the stretch; Texas wins the West
- Cleveland goes on an absolute tear, wins second WC
- Yankees and Jays battle it out for 1st, Jays win by 2 games, Yanks win 1st WC
- Minnesota goes .500 the rest of the way, lose the second WC to Cleveland
- KC wins the Central

- Mets win the East
- St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Cubs all make the playoffs
- Giants and Dodgers will come down to a tie-breaker

Solid picks.

Not sure about the Tribe, even with their streak now. Lot of ground to make up, and a few teams to pass, but you never know....

Hope the Jays cool them off over the next few nights, but they are playing with a lot of confidence right now. Taking 3/4 in the Bronx did wonders for them.

 

[trellaine201]

I've been waiting for the Astros to nose dive. They just aren't that good IMO.

 

[canucksfan]

I am glad Price pitches against Salazaar

 

[Jack Bourdain]

Hello Leafs board, I am a Montreal fan and I come in peace.

I never followed baseball in my life and wasn't into the sport until recently. My boss at work is a HUGE Yankees fan (has a tattoo and all). So in order to bond with him, I tried getting into baseball. I never really felt absorbed by the sport until recently... This Jays team is so entertaining night in and night out... They have a new fan in me!

 

[Cloned]

Solid picks.

Not sure about the Tribe, even with their streak now. Lot of ground to make up, and a few teams to pass, but you never know....

Hope the Jays cool them off over the next few nights, but they are playing with a lot of confidence right now. Taking 3/4 in the Bronx did wonders for them.

Their offense is finally clicking. And with their rotation, that gives them a chance to go .600-.650 in September, which is what they'll need to do to win the WC.

 

[Just Rude]

Their offense is finally clicking. And with their rotation, that gives them a chance to go .600-.650 in September, which is what they'll need to do to win the WC.

Can't argue with that. Playing some good ball right now.

Hope they do catch the wild card, and it's the Yankees that choke down the stretch, not just for the East, but for the WC.

 

[Eyedea]

Their offense is finally clicking. And with their rotation, that gives them a chance to go .600-.650 in September, which is what they'll need to do to win the WC.

.650 ball gets them to like 84 wins. The Rangers could go .500 the rest of the way and end up with the same record. Astros could go 12-19 and end up with 84 as well. The Indians probably need a month like the Jays just had in order to have a chance at the wildcard spot.

 

[metafour]

Yes and why not keep Beeston who AA seems to have a good relationship with.

Beeston blows, he's nothing more than a Rogers mouthpiece. Shapiro is an astronomical upgrade from a guy who's daily activities consist of drinking scotch and smoking cigars in his office...followed by smoking cigars in the exec suite during games.

Why keep Beeston? Because he seemingly has a good relationship with AA? Keep Beeston and we may see grass in the RC in a decade's time, if he's even still alive by then.

 

[RiellyGood]

e2h5?

 

[BertCorbeau]

It's not even just games back, the Indians have to pass a lot of teams to get to a WC spot ... That is going to be a tough task

 

[King Mapes]

It's crazy at just how unstoppable we have looked since adding Price and Tulo.

 

[garce]

Beeston blows, he's nothing more than a Rogers mouthpiece. Shapiro is an astronomical upgrade from a guy who's daily activities consist of drinking scotch and smoking cigars in his office...followed by smoking cigars in the exec suite during games.

Why keep Beeston? Because he seemingly has a good relationship with AA? Keep Beeston and we may see grass in the RC in a decade's time, if he's even still alive by then.

You have a great grasp of the present situation and history of Beeston and the Jays and his relationship with Rogers. No real objection to Shapiro, but why change what has began to pay dividends? Did Rogers allow the deadline acquisitions because of someone in their corporate office? Or did AA and Beeston work together to get approval from the suits to be bold?

 

[Just Rude]

For those Keeping track:

JAYS 32 GR (15 home, 17 away)

HOME: vs Cleveland (3), vs Baltimore (3), vs Boston (3), vs Yankees (3), vs Tampa (3)

AWAY:at Boston (3), at Yankees (4), at Atlanta (3), at Baltimore (4), at Tampa (3)


YANKEES 33 GR (18 home, 15 away)

HOME: vs Tampa (3), Baltimore (3) vs Jays (4), vs Chisox (4), vs Boston (4),

AWAY: at Boston (3), at Tampa (3), at Mets (3), at Jays (3), at Baltimore (3)


I really hope the Red Sox and Mets do us a couple of solids.

 

[Swervin81]

You have a great grasp of the present situation and history of Beeston and the Jays and his relationship with Rogers. No real objection to Shapiro, but why change what has began to pay dividends? Did Rogers allow the deadline acquisitions because of someone in their corporate office? Or did AA and Beeston work together to get approval from the suits to be bold?

You've conveniently ignored the fact that Beeston is retiring.