Player Discussion The Slaf Thread - Parabolic Growth Edition

[Frank Drebin]

You’re ignoring the UFA age

Are we really talking about 10 years from now?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Are we really talking about 10 years from now?

Isn't that what the whole rebuild is about?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Isn't that what the whole rebuild is about?

No. guessing about a third contract a decade from now is not what the rebuild is about

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

No. guessing about a third contract a decade from now is not what the rebuild is about

I'm just saying it's better for a player to start their 8x8 contract when they are 24 not 21, get it?

 

[Frank Drebin]

I'm just saying it's better for a player to start their 8x8 contract when they are 24 not 21, get it?

The bridge contract logic doesn't make sense to me.

If we bridge him and hes awesome 3 years from now, we could realistically be paying him 4-5m or more a season from his age 24-29 years, when ideally we're supposed to competing for the cup. Think Nylander money, who signed for 13% of the cap. 3 years from now cap will be 100m+. If hes a superstar at 29 then we sign him to an 8 year deal in 2033 or whatever year that is.

If we bridge him and hes not awesome we likely overpay him for those 5 years in the 1-3 million range, but its not really going to matter because if our 1oa busts, we're not competing for anything anyway. And if he's mediocre who cares if we lose control of him at age 29.

 

[LaP]

This probably won't go over well but its time Slaf played 10 games in Laval. Play that lazy guy 24+ min a game. Give him so much ice time he pukes all over himself. That is the fix. Stop treating him like he is something special. He needs to be brought down a peg and honestly some humble pie will be good in the long run. Patches was in same situation as Slaf when we first came up. The problem is the current management doesn't have the ability to do the right thing. Kid need to learn to skate with his head up and not toe pic every 6 strides. That type of confidence can only happen in Laval. Most of the time you see him he is standing still or making one hand lazy plays.

There really is no point for him to play in Laval. When is the last time a team sent a 1st overall pick in the AHL after two full year in the NHL? People need to stop with the cooking thing. It's hockey not Hell's Kitchen. He's 20 years old there's nothing special about a 20 years old struggling at time and having bad sequences. That doesn't mean he will develop but he wont develop more in the AHL.

 

[WinterLion]

I like having him play with Gallagher

 

[LaP]

The bridge contract logic doesn't make sense to me.

If we bridge him and hes awesome 3 years from now, we could realistically be paying him 4-5m or more a season from his age 24-29 years, when ideally we're supposed to competing for the cup. Think Nylander money, who signed for 13% of the cap. 3 years from now cap will be 100m+. If hes a superstar at 29 then we sign him to an 8 year deal in 2033 or whatever year that is.

If we bridge him and hes not awesome we likely overpay him for those 5 years in the 1-3 million range, but its not really going to matter because if our 1oa busts, we're not competing for anything anyway. And if he's mediocre who cares if we lose control of him at age 29.

If he's mediocre he'll be traded before reaching 29. 5 years in his contract we will easily find a rebuilding taker to take a chance on a 25 years old 1st overall pick with size in exchange for future consideration even if he's paid 7 millions a year. At that point there will be 3 years left to his deal and rebuilding teams often have trouble reaching the floor with all their ELC contracts. So reaching the floor by taking a chance on a 25 years old Slaf makes sense. I mean we took a chance on a 25 years old mediocre Anderson even if he was going to be paid 5.5 millions a year for 5 years. 5 years from now the 7 millions Slaf is making will be about equivalent to the 5.5 millions Anderson was paid when we got him. The contract will not be an issue it's not high enough and most GMs dream of big wingers every nights.

 

[BaseballCoach]

This probably won't go over well but its time Slaf played 10 games in Laval. Play that lazy guy 24+ min a game. Give him so much ice time he pukes all over himself. That is the fix. Stop treating him like he is something special. He needs to be brought down a peg and honestly some humble pie will be good in the long run. P

Completely ridiculous, the kid has 13 points in 19 games.

 

[Demigod]

I am so far from concerned about Slaf.

He will have to keep improving over the next 4 years. We know what he can be and he will reach it. Big guy like him take time to reach their full potential. What I always liked about Slaf is his character. He is a winner and he is really hard on himself. His personnality gonna make him a really good player and im sure Gorton and Hughes choose him 1st overall exactly because of his character.

So far he didnt play as good as he can be but he managed to get 13 pts in 19 games. He said himself he play like two good games this season.

I dont have any doubt that he will be a key piece if we win a cup in the next 5-10 years. Its ok that he experienced slump in his early carreer its gonna make him improve for the long run.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Completely ridiculous, the kid has 13 points in 19 games.

That's a 56 point pace.. we need to calm down a bit lol. He's had a slow start but the points are there, if he gets confident he could easily finish the year with 70 points.

 

[waitin425]

Slaf has been underwhelming this year, but as many have said....56 point pace.

With his missed games, he will likely still put 60+ points up. The breakout will likely have to wait another year.

 

[bud12]

So 13 pts in 19 games. You know how god Cooley had in his first 19 games???? A whooping 12 pts

Some peoples need need to relaxe or take their medication. Same in the Victor Hutson thread

 

[Thomas Sowell]

Nathan MacKinnon had 52 pts in 72 games in his 3rd season and 53 pts in 82 games in his 4th season. It wasn't until year 5 that he broke out.

Everyone needs to relax lol.

 

[Demigod]

Idk why but its a question of feeling with the players. Slafkovsky have this X factor in his mindset that gonna help him achieve his full potential.

In the opposite Joe Drouin has this lack of mindset that's why he never reach his full potential. I have to say that Dach looks like he lack this X factor to flourish into his full potential.

Its just a feeling but the character of a player will dictate if they fullfill their potential or they flop.

Slaf in my opinion has this aura that gonna push him to be the best version of himself.

Its hard to explain but im sure the Scout really look into that to rank players

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Nathan MacKinnon had 52 pts in 72 games in his 3rd season and 53 pts in 82 games in his 4th season. It wasn't until year 5 that he broke out.

Everyone needs to relax lol.

The team changes the day Ivan Demidov starts playing. Everyone else gets an immediate stat boost from either playing with him, or playing lesser competition because of him.

Just wait.

 

[Tuggy]

I like having him play with Gallagher

Definitely a better example of hard work than Dach...

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Completely ridiculous, the kid has 13 points in 19 games.

Who was center? Evans?

 

[jrom]

I like having him play with Gallagher

Agreed and Gally should keep stirring sh*t to get Slaf involved

 

[SlafySZN]

Many embarrassing takes on here from people who couldn’t wait for him to be in a small slump.

 

[ReHabs]

I think points don’t matter, that was the narrative about the big guy’s development wasn’t it?

Is he playing well? If not, why? What should change — is it his effort or his mentality or his line mates?

 

[V13]

I am hard on Slaf but I think people that are complaining we should have drafted Cooley, should watch a lot more Cooley games. A small center that avoids contact and plays pass-first. He’s barely better than underachieving Slaf right now and would solve none of the team’s problem.

None of the top 5 guys of 2022 are doing much right now. Slaf is in a slump , Nemec was sent back to the AHL after starting with the Devils . Cooley is doing ok with 17pts in 22 games but that's only .10ppg more than Slaf , Wright has a whooping 5pts in 20 games and there are rumors that CBJ ain't satisfied with Jiricek development-attitude and that he may be available to trade.

So it doesn't just happen to Slaf. Non generational 20 years old top 5 picks struggling a bit. It happens. It's not the first and won't be the last time. Still way too soon to throw the towel on any of these guys.

 

[sampollock]

good for him. now work off that
keep competing is all we ask Slaf

 

[Tyson]

The way he played last night is very reminiscent of how he played in the 2nd half of last season. We forget that he is only 20 years old.

 

[sampollock]

The way he played last night is very reminiscent of how he played in the 2nd half of last season. We forget that he is only 20 years old.

agreed. I was not happy with him, but can't forget 20 years old
I was not mad enough to trade him, but ticked off that he is not competing.
move your feet, work hard. this fan base will get behind you